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1651  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Transfer Switch Manual on: September 30, 2013, 02:03:33 pm
Thanks Barry. I saved it.
I saved it too, and I printed it for my binder of data.  You never know if or when you'll need it.

I do need to double check that mine is the same manufacture & part number.  After all, my rig is 6 years old.

Thanks from me too!
1652  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Rubber Floor Mat on: September 30, 2013, 12:45:49 pm
I going to wait and see what Ron does since it already sounds like he is going to pull up his carpet and do something.. want to know how hard/easy pulling up the carpet is, before I attempt to do something...
I would have thought it best to leave the PC carpet in place given it is glued down and works well as an insulator and as a sound barrier.  I would remove the seats and whatever trim needed such as like door sills and simply place the Ford (or generic)mat over the carpet.

For the record, my wife and I travel together without children or pets.  Our PC carpet seems to be holding up quite well given that we pay attention to dirty shoes and we do have Ford van floor mats over the PC carpet in the foot wells.

Hardwood floors are surely beautiful, and the 100% vinyl flooring has some popularity as well.  But I actually enjoy or carpet where it is and where it is not.  It feels like home when inside by the dinette and easy chair with our shoes off.  We do place a long throw rug over the vinyl floor in front of sink & stove but does not compare, but I appreciate the vinyl flooring there in the galley and bathroom.

Our OEM Ford floor mats Look similar to these.
1653  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Night/Day Shades Rattling on: September 29, 2013, 03:18:19 pm
I'm wondering if a 2100/2400 would fit our needs if I decide to trade in
The only reason I would trade our 2350 for a 2100 is to knock off the 2.5 feet.  I would never give up our permanent bed to go longer without a permanent double bed.  But that is just my personal opinion, meeting our personal needs.  I feel the 2400 would be great for tail gating parties and other social events where accomodating daytime guests comfortably is the priority.
1654  Main Forum / General Discussion / Older Zone-Defense Backup Camera With Sound - Some Questions About It on: September 29, 2013, 03:13:37 pm
#1 - I looked real close for the microphone but cannot find it on the camera or elsewhere.  Does anyone know where it is?  My sound seems to be getting blocked because with the volume set to highest, I can hear hissing like before, but no actual outside sound like before.

#2 - My backup camera has a lot of clear colored LEDs in it, I assume to illuminate the area when backing up.  I don't recall them ever lighting up, even while backing up in the dark with the head lights on.  Is that controlled through the user menu or other means?
1655  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Steering damper and suspension improvements - advice please on: September 28, 2013, 10:38:14 pm
Unless your 2006 2100 suspension was upgraded by the previous owner, you won't have a rear stabilizer bar of any kind.  Having a heavy duty stabilizer bar in back, all by itself, will make a huge improvement in handling.  I would also replace the wimpy front stabilizer bar with a heavy duty one and then you really doing well.  I would consider heavy duty bars made by Helwig for they are most affordable, and can be installed by a novice who knows how to use tools.

Replacing your steering damper with a good one as you are considering, will help a lot too.

At a minimum, I would get those three upgrades along with a front wheel alignment.  There is more that can be done, but your 2100 might not see the benefits from special shocks and rear trac bar, unless you are towing something.

We did the works on our 2007 2350 and it handles like a gem, with or without towing our Jeep Liberty.
1656  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 28, 2013, 10:22:02 pm
Ron,

How did you know where the roof sheet metal was? Is it cut to be close to the front of the cabinet?

Bob
Good question Bob.  It was just a guess on my part.  That is why I picked a dimension of 3" and drilled a pilot hole, placed a 2" finish nail down it to make sure metal roof material was there.  Maybe I could have gotton by with 2" from the cabinet opening, but I wanted to be sure I hit metal every time, and wasn't drilling holes near a metal edge.  I wanted to get into the "beef" of the metal roof for better anchoring.
1657  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 28, 2013, 01:14:40 pm
That's great, Ron. Another helpful for you..................at my pleasure.
Thanks Bob Smile
1658  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 28, 2013, 01:09:31 pm
I looked at the pic you have unfinished cab, can visualize  where the cabinets above pass/driver are and how the screws help...  did the bottom of the cabinets have a lining or were they bare?

On your oven rattle if it comes back don't forget to look at where I replaced part of the inside mounting boards  with some padding on my replacement project.

sparky
My cabinets are finished inside.  A year or so after we bought our PC, I added rubber shelf liner to the insides for noise and protection, but some prior abrasion occurred, especially in the other cabinet.  I am ashamed to take a picture of that one.  I was thinking of trying a little cherry stain there.

I thought of your idea with my microwave rattle, but didn't have to go there after tightening the six front facing perimeter screws.  If it quickly returns, I'll be applying your padding idea.  Thanks for that tip.

I always wondered how PC-USA attached the cabinets inside the B+ cap area.  I still don't know how it was done.  My 4 per side screws (bolts Smile ) seem to have achored them down much better.  I only wished the cabinet floor was thicker wood.  I think it's just 1/4" finished plywood so there is still some flexing action.  Just not nearly as much..
1659  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 28, 2013, 12:51:26 pm
Ron, In your picture your screws appear to be flat head bolts. Are they what you used (and how) or are they just representative of the screws? Great post!
I used the screws pictured.  I suppose they are small bolts.  You can spin nuts on them.  I call them bolts when the screw has a hex head.
1660  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 27, 2013, 10:13:53 pm
The Tools I Used.
The flat head screws are 1.5" long


This done inside both cabinets.  The screws are 3" in from the cabinet opening.
Today I added a 4th screw more forward (seen in the pic) to help anchor the front corners of the cabinetry better, stabilizing the TV better too.
I really don't know if the cabinets are keeping the Ford roof from banging, or the tight connection to the Ford roof helps stabilize the cabinetry to prevent the banging.  Either way the banging is gone and the cabinets and TV don't bounce nearly as much on bumps as they did prior.


Irene drove the PC on a local bumpy road while I watched and listened.  During the test drive, I learned our microwave was making noises because the 6 perimeter mounting screws had come loose.  I tightened them up and the microwave got very quiet.  Now I hear the heat shield under the motor home making noise, but I don't have any desire to do something about that one.....at least not yet. Smile

Things have come a long way in just a few hours work.  I am very happy.  Now on to my drawer latches.
1661  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Conserving Battery Reserves Without Shore Power on: September 27, 2013, 02:32:52 pm
This trip in 2013, we had electric hookup for 2 nights over the 30 day period.  It was our first trip taken without our tow vehicle.  This meant we drove the PC everywhere.  Oh course the batteries get charged while driving.
  
Another thing we did different was running the generator for about an hour most mornings.  During that time we'd make coffee with our electric drip coffee maker, charge the coach batteries, laptop computer, camera, and cell phone batteries.  We also heated up the hot water tank for the day.

Between those two main changes, our battery reserves never went low so we never had to resort to the Black & Decker charger.

If you are wondering about hot water, we always resorted to propane when it came to showering up.
1662  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Because I love y'all the mostest on: September 27, 2013, 11:07:20 am
Very Nice!

If you are taking requests, I would love to see actual assembly of...

- the pre-assembly of a PC floor, laying of underbelly corregated plastic, block foam insulation, adhesives, and the fastening of the plywood.  Is that a vacu-bonded pre-assembly, then laid on the Ford chassis frame?
- the assembly of the PC floor to the Ford framing
- the pre-assembly of a side wall showing studs, window framing, and how the vacu-bond process is done there
- the same for the roof
- walls and roof assembly to the chassis and specific views on fastening
- B+ cap and wing wall assembly
- one window & the door installation
- fiberglass roof-to-wall assembly

I know they are not particularly selling points to someone shopping, but it would be great to see the assembling of the structural house.
1663  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 27, 2013, 09:44:58 am
Kermit is so helpfull. How many other companies do you know where the owner is so helpfull? Not many I bet.
In Total Agreement Tom!
1664  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - In The B+ Cap Area on: September 27, 2013, 09:43:58 am
Hey Ron, How about a photo showing where you installed the screws?
I can do that!
1665  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A New Banging Sound After Year #6 - Dead Center In The Headliner Area on: September 27, 2013, 08:39:17 am
Good News For Me.

I finally had some time to apply the advise from Kermit (and one of you) and it solved my banging.  Last night, inside each front cabinet, I screwed 3 flat head screws through the cabinet floor into the original Ford steel roof and tightened them as snug as the cabinet floors would allow with only a little dimple/distortion.  While inside the cabinets, I tightened every screw I could find.  Some I was able to make more snug.

I drove our PC to work this morning and the banging is gone.  At lunch I'll be driving the rig to the IL-EPA smog test station.

Since I questioned my cap-to-roof interconnetion, I followed Kermit's advise and palmed the B+ cap upward.  There was "Zero" effect, no movement at all so I conclude my cap is mounted on good.  That vibration movement I feel in between cap and roof while driving, I will consider normal.  Kermit also said that if my cap was loose, rain water would be dripping from the headliner while driving in a rain storm, and that has never happened.

So I think all is well, done with this thread.  Now it's off to looking into some other noises in back.  I think my microwave oven could use some looking into, maybe pulling it out and adding some adhesive back pads to minimize and dampen any movement and/or rubbing.  I also need to get to my converted 5-to-3 drawer galley cabinet, installing push button latches, the kind used on cabinet doors in other brand motor homes.  The 5 magnets per drawer didn't keep them closed during the worst of circumstances.

Thanks again all for your insights & experience related to my banging.....And Thank You Kermit!
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