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1666  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 10, 2010, 09:21:25 am
Bob,

Did Phoenix USA keep the wheelbase the same between the 2551 and the 2552, or did they stretch the wheel base one more foot accordingly?

I would assume, given the 2551/2552 is their smallest units built on the E450, you have the most CCC margin.

Tom did something different, special ordering a 2350 on an E450.  Lots more margin there.

Thanks Bob for keeping us updated as to your experiences/comparison between the two you've owned.
1667  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 09, 2010, 12:36:52 am
Bob,

What a custom unit you got.  What a story.  Wow.  It sounds like you took everything you learned from your 2350, and applied all ideas into your new 2552S.  Amazing the factory was so creative in working with you on that.  It was probably the best time of year for them to experiment with a new body design, given it's their slow time of year.  One thing I can say.  Your custom 2552S is much more desirable to me than the standard 2551S.  I also like the idea of getting short table legs to turn the table into a recliner/coffee table.  I too wish I had shelves in those wing areas behind the front seats.  I empty my pockets onto one of them for bedtime, but I wish my padded wing shelves would hold real stuff while in motion.  Solid front railings would be great.

Thanks for sharing all the details.

Would you be available to answer any questions on your old 2350 if I find an interested party?
1668  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 08, 2010, 05:56:30 pm
Oh, I do see that extra chair now.
1669  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 08, 2010, 03:45:03 pm
I am a bit perplexed what the 2552S is.  I see the slideout is the same, but the couch is replaced with a dinette.  Is that the deal?  Or does the "S" stand for Sprinter?
1670  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 08, 2010, 11:34:54 am
Hey Bob gl1500,

Is this your old 2350 being sold by the factory on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PHOENIX-CRUISER-HAVE-PLEASUREWAY-ROADTREK-/110621875114?pt=RVs_Campers&hash=item19c193dbaa

Is your new 2011-2551 the same green exterior color as your 2010-2350?  Does it have a slide or no-slide like your old one?

When we were selecting colors for our 2007-2350, we debated if full body green would be the ideal color.  But back then Phoenix USA could not show us an example of one.  They only had a poor paper print picture.  Given our interior was sagemint green, it was something to consider.

We did like the gray, so we went the safe route and ordered our exterior gray.  But as time has passed with numerous pictures since available of the green, oh how we like that green color.  Had we been able to see a green in person back then, I think we would have ordered ours green, then eventually get a matching green Jeep Liberty to tow behind it.  Maybe I should trade-in ours for your old 2010, ha, ha.
1671  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Those Two Screws In The Middle Of The Entry Door Threshold on: December 08, 2010, 11:23:02 am
Paula,

As I mentioned before, those screws to nowhere did go somewhere until they sheared off.

I have been tempted to add 3 more threaded screws in-between the two already there.  I am concerned my two larger replacement screws may also give out over time.
1672  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entertainment Center hook up on: December 07, 2010, 05:37:45 pm
Yep, remove two of the four hinges.  I would call the factory and ask for a few latches and matching door knobs, to make that a standard opperating door.  It's locked down for child safety, but if you don't have kids, make it normal so you can completely kill the inverter.

Also, that headphone jack my article mentions, you can reach up from below and simply unplug it.  Get a mirror and flashlight first to see how to reach it.

Glad to hear the factory is sending you touchup paint.  We all got touch-up paint when our units were delivered new.  Given mine is multi-colored, I have 3, maybe 4 bottles.
1673  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 2551 Twin bed mods on: December 07, 2010, 04:16:53 pm
Judi, No chair yet.  I called & emailed Pauls Seating again this week, but still no answer.  Hopefully they are in a seasonal shut-down mode, and not in permanent shut down.  Time will tell.  I was hoping to get the chair in time for Christmas.  It's my wife's gift to me.  It would have been nice to place it under the tree so she doesn't feel empty handed.

Tom, I think you are onto something with the antenna thingy.  One day I'll have to get me one of those.
1674  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entertainment Center hook up on: December 07, 2010, 04:11:13 pm
Just like you, we'll power up the front TV when having guests for the evening or on poor weather days.  They all know where to hang out....the pad with the entertainment system.  All in good fun.

You seem to be on-track, going over the entire unit.  Doing that annually isn't a bad idea.  I tend to be a little lazy in that area, finding myself pulling out the tool box while on a trip, when my girl is making dinner or something.  Never anything serious has needed fixing on the road so far.

If you have a Tripp-Lite inverter as is in my 2007, you'll want to read up on my Power Saving article in the Tips & Tricks section.
1675  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 2551 Twin bed mods on: December 07, 2010, 12:22:28 pm
Judi,

Ask the factory to add access doors under your beds for you while it is getting built.  I'm sure it will look perfect and at a reasonable cost too.

Have you given any thought to the ladder and roof rack?  Any thought about the Winegard antenna?  We had the roof rack and ladder NOT mounted, but rather placed inside the RV.  So far no regrets storing them in the attic.  The RV looks so clean and is hole-free without them.  I use a nice step ladder to get up top when at home.

Had I known how useless the Winegard antenna is now that the country gone digital, I would have left that off my list to avoid all the extra holes in the roof to accomodate it.  I have concluded the antenna works only when staying real close to, or in towns which is always then in RV parks.  But all RV parks include cable TV.  So what good is the Winegard antenna except to bang on the roof when the roads are rough?
1676  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 06, 2010, 08:55:36 pm
I'd love to read why the switch from a 2010-2350 to a 2011-2551.  Any other options added or deleted?  Also, what is a 2552?
1677  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entertainment Center hook up on: December 06, 2010, 04:23:34 pm
Boy, I don't know what to tell you about AV hookups prewired for satelite TV.  Intersting about your wiring from the front DVD to the rear TV.  We did this instead, given we did not order ours a rear TV.  This rear TV uses very little inverted power.  We watch movies in bed on inverted power without concern of draining the batteres.
1678  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dash 110V on: December 06, 2010, 03:47:28 pm
It is so much more energy efficient to use chargers which run off 12V, instead of inverted 110V.  This because battery chargers opperate at or close to 12V to begin with.  Inverting power from the 12V coach batteries, stepping up to 110V, just to step back down close to 12V, consumes a lot more coach battery power than if simply working direct off 12V to begin with.  With small items like cell phone chargers, it's not dramatic.  But some chargers like for laptops, they have an appetite for power.  You can tell buy feeling the heat from the charger.
1679  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dash 110V on: December 06, 2010, 02:18:21 pm
I didn't know that.  Thanks for the tip.
1680  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Dash 110V on: December 06, 2010, 11:33:43 am
I assume you are refering to the round 12V cigarette lighter outlets, not the standard house 110V outlets.

Speaking for the Ford chassis and is very likely the same for the Sprinter, the dash mounted round 12V outlets are supplied by Ford.  Those 12V outlets work the same as with any normal car.  I think one is powered up with the igition switch on.  I think the other is always powered up.  Both run off the main engine battery.

In my 2007 2350, the 12V outlet in the passeger side overhead compartment is the only 12V outlet in the coach portion of the motor home.  Power to it is supplied by the coach batteries.  It is there to utilize typical 12V accessories.  One example would be a 12V cell phone charger typically used in a car.  It's a place to charge such things in hiding.

I setup that cabinet for charging all kinds of electronics, from cell phones to video cameras, to digital cameras, to navigation, to rechargable flashlights, to laptop computers.  Most utilize 110V power via that power strip shown.  Note the laptop computer stored on the shelf.  I need to make a second shelf above that one for better utilization of space.


BTW:  On my 2007, that 12V outlet has a red reset button.  That button is related to the antenna signal booster.  The 12V outlet and antenna booster share the same electrical box in the wall there.  You can't see it in the picture.  It is to the left of the white duplex 110V outlet shown.
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