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1666  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: battery storage/ maint on: November 21, 2011, 09:06:25 am

I advise to bring the batteries inside if storing the motor home outside off-site in extreme cold temps where people are easily tempted to leave their rig unattended through the winter season.  Batteries left in the RV hooked up and ready to go, there is a small continuous power drain, both on the chassis battery as well as the house batteries.  Once completely drained, they are suseptible to freezing.  If they freeze, they are permanently damaged.

If the owners are certian all batteries are fully charged at the time they park their rig off-site for many winter months, they could simply unhook the ground connections.  That eliminates the small continuous power drain, giving them a much better chance of surviving the winter.  But no guarrentee.  So I blanketly state, it's best to bring the batteries inside.

If the owners live in a less severe climate where winters will see freezing temps, but never get below the 20 degree zone, they could get by with unhooking the grounds and leave the fully charged batteries in with the rig.  The climate where they live is the main variation, but a blanket question yields a blanket answer.  Many people get lost when I get into such detail, so I try to keep it simple.

I live in the Chicago area and volunteer in a ministry HERE where cars are donated.  We have a lot in back, sometimes having hundreds of cars parked.  Many batteries were checked to be fine, later to be dead if still hooked up and unattended over the winter.
1667  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 19, 2011, 08:38:23 am
Hey sajohnson,

That 2000 PC is back on ebay.  Apparently the winng bidder backed out of the deal.  The seller has it up on auction again this time with a buy-it-now for $12,000.  I would go check it out in person and if I liked it, I would offer $11,000 on the side, without ebay involvement.  He could then end the sale on ebay and sell it outright to you without ebay fees.

That rig is in your general area, right?

Click Here To See It On Ebay
1668  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Trade-in time on: November 18, 2011, 01:46:37 pm
What's going on there?  That looks very suspicious.  It has 3 huge solar panels and also has overhead pole/shore power.  And that plywood roof extention must be a look-out tower.  Must be a top secret military opperation.   Smile
1669  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Tailoring sheets for 2551/2552 on: November 17, 2011, 03:15:21 pm
I'll have to try your suggestion.

Thanks Sue!
1670  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Tailoring sheets for 2551/2552 on: November 17, 2011, 02:40:55 pm

I really like what you did to get your fitted sheet tight.  With our 2350, the mattress has that angled corner so it would be a bit trickier.

I showed to my wife what you had done but it has not inspired her to do anything with our wrinkled sheets.  Maybe I will drag the mattress upstairs over the winter and try something myself.  How hard can it be?
1671  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 16, 2011, 08:49:16 am

Did you buy it?  It sold for only $11,100.

1672  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 14, 2011, 02:41:04 pm
Hey sajohnson,

I Found A Short PC With Dinette-NO-Slideout Near You.  Read On.

Here is a very low priced 2000 Phoenix Cruiser in Greenbelt MD, maybe close to where you live.  Back then it was not called a 2350, but has a very similar floorplan, the biggest floorplan difference being the bathroom.  The bright side is the rear corner bed seems to have better access.  One interesting point is that the Ford roof was not cut.  This means the front cab is a little harder to enter in from the rear, but is very safe in a roll-over crash.  Also you have more front over-head storage.
Dinette with NO slideout
PC Model Year 2000
Ford-V10 Chassis Year 1999
78,500 Miles
Recent Tires
Current bid on Ebay is $9,900 with auction ending in 26 hours.

The differences that I can quickly see between this 2000 and my 2007 are as follows.

- no rear cap with LED lighting and integrated tire storage, rather a rear wall with seams in the corners
- smaller outdoor storage
- main entry door does not have the better sealing door with multi-pivoting hinges farther apart
- single coach battery with NO inverter
- no sanicon system, rather a straight forward conventional sewage dumping system
- a wet bath, meaning you take a shower in the entire bathroom
- formica counters instead of corian
- no flat panel TV, the cabinetry is made for an older type CRT TV
- stove is not flush mounted with covers, which I appreciate when doing dishes

If you get this one for $10k to $15k, all the differences could easiliy be overlooked.
Click Here To See It On Ebay

1673  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Gotta get away on: November 14, 2011, 09:32:37 am
We just returned last night from an 11 day cruise on the Caribbean.  The PC stayed home.  RVing and cruising are our two primary vacationing methods.  We average one 2-3 week RV trip and one 7-11 day cruise per year, but rarely have time for weekend get-aways.  We can't seem to drop things and get-away on a whim.  It always requires planning due to weekday and weekend commitments.
1674  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Storing dishes on: November 14, 2011, 09:25:04 am
Dishware, we primarily use Corningware, stored in the drawers under the utensel drawer.  They stack extremely tight requiring very little room.  Corningware takes a real good beating and doesn't rattle between commons either.  My wife loves it for it's microwaving friendliness too.  We use larger conventional ceramic mugs, not Corning cups as they are too small.
1675  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 14, 2011, 08:54:20 am
Hey I just saw this on ebay.  Good reference material with good pictures.

Naples Florida
2006 2551
25,000 miles
Always Garaged when not in use
$39,900 with a "Make Offer" feature

I don't think it has 2 batteries with inverter.
The only thing I would likely change is replacing the tiny little dinette in the slideout with a couch or something else.
This is a fine example of how small the dinette in a slideout really is.
CLICK HERE to see it on eBay.

1676  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Info needed on 2000 PC on: November 13, 2011, 11:01:59 pm
The 2000 PC was made quite differnently.  The floor plan and aero cap is the same, but many technical/electrical changes were made since.  I think most people on this forum will be providing data that will not apply.  Things like the inverter was introduced in 2005 or 2006 as an option, 2007 as standard.  The battery(s) have been relocated twice since 2000, and there are many more differences.  But the fundimentals of the over-all motor home are basically the same.
1677  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 02, 2011, 09:27:14 am
Ideally, the dinette bed would be big enough for me (6'2", 230 lbs), but unless I can get the floor plans and measurements I guess I'll just have to try and find one locally and check it out.

I recall you saying that you and DW aren't crazy about the corner bed due to having to climb over each other.  Have you or DW considered sleeping in the dinette bed on a regular basis?

BTW, what type of mattress does Phoenix use for the corner bed -- inner spring or foam?  How would you rate its comfort?
Our dinette would not allow a 6'-2" fellow to stretch out.  Actually I would be concerned the general ceiling height of any PC would be of concern.  You will be hitting your head on the a/c and lights that hang from the ceiling.  PCs are all made with the same ceiling height, regardless of model and options.  You really need to walk through one before considering any such purchase.   Oh, at 6'-2" your feet will overhang the 2350 bed by a lot too.  I hate to say it, but I think any PC might need ruling out because of your height.  Maybe you will want to post a new question.  Any 6'-2" tall PC owners out there?

The specs of the 2350 is the same over the years from 2005 to today,  likely the same goes for any other model.  So you could read today's specs and know what a 2005 measures.

The matress in our 2007 2350, I swear is 100% foam.

No way would one of us sleep on the dinette on a regular basis.  We have too many cudling requirements.
1678  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: November 01, 2011, 10:30:12 pm
For the record, our dinette is NOT in a slideout, making it much larger than otherwise.  I am 5'-11" tall and 180 pounds.  I have slept on the dinette 3 consecutive nights when I got sick on one trip  I find the dinette bed to be very comfortable and roomy for a single person of my size and weight.  Length, leg room, elbow room, all worked fine for me.  The 4 cushions make a comfortable matress as well.
1679  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How does your PC ride? on: November 01, 2011, 10:20:16 pm
Seems a mystery to me that a company like PC wouldn't go ahead and put Bilstein's or Koni shocks on their units right out of the factory.   Seems like something many folks do anyway.
I always thought that PC-USA should offer a "Handling Package" option on the E-Series to include the following.
- heavy duty front and rear stabilizer bars
- Bilstein or Koni-RV shocks
- rear trac bar
- heavy duty front steering stabilizer
- front wheel alignment

Our 2007 2350 on a 2007 E350 chassis drove like a druken sailor until after these upgrades.  Now it resembles the handling of an SUV.  With 1000 pounds of chassis weight margin when loaded on trips, the quality of the ride is quite comfortable.
1680  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: List Your PC Projects Planned Over This Winter 2011 to 2012 on: October 29, 2011, 06:29:06 pm
I replaced the 2 piece chip board in our 2350 with a single smooth sheet of plywood.  No more snags.

For the shelves we use the standard shelf liner, solid foam rubber material from home improvement stores, as shown here.  It cuts easy with a straight edge and razor blade for a perfect fit.  In places where it moved around and bunched up, we use a couple 2" squares of carpet tape to secure it.
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