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1666  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2100 - No slide - Question on: July 09, 2014, 11:49:46 am
If I were travelling solo, my PC of choice would be a NO-slide 2100, but I would special order it, deviating a little from this no-slide plan.

First of all, I find our dinette "Very" comfortable to sleep on, especially now with the memory foam cushions.  The dinette/bed in our 2350 is roomy and fits my 5'-11" tall body just right.  I would just make sure the 2100 dinette is dimensionally the same as our 2350.

This is what I would request different from the factory.

I would keep the dinette as is, making sure it has memory foam cushions for both good sleeping and sit-up comfort.  I would set the dinette up as a day bed and keep it that way all the time.  I would have the factory supply a good set of matching bolsters for backrests and arm rests, and toss them on a front seat when it's time to sleep....basically converting between a couch and a bed with the bolsters.  The dinette as a bed provides a ton of storage inside each bench and also under the table portion.  It also provides the option to have a dinette if the need ever came up.

As for the couch across from the dinette, I would delete it and have the factory build a nice desk where I could sit in a normal chair and look out the window there, using it as a place to eat, write, or use a laptop computer.  I would have 12V and 110V outlets there.  I would supply my own folding or other chair of my own choosing.  The smaller window there would be selected so a nice size closet could be built between the desk and the front passenger seat.  That would provide a lot more inside storage.

Since there is so little outdoor storage, I would request the rear dinette bench get sealed off to the inside, access only from the outside via an insulated door as is currently done with our 2350 rear corner bed.  The front dinette bench would remain accessible to the inside for an outside door would be too tiny for practicality given the angled transition wall.

There might be a mechanical obstacle to overcome, maybe the furnace or other mechanical thingy inside the rear dinette bench or behind the couch, so this would all have to be worked through or possibly compromised to some degree.
1667  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HWH Levelers on: July 09, 2014, 11:23:31 am
I am always interested in the post re levelers,,, previous owner had them installed on our 2350,, over $4k ouch,,, I've never used them.. keep using the blocks.   I think I need to go to a local parking lot (concrete) and practice,, For some reason I'm scared to death they will get stuck.... I did extend them once at the storage yard,  Again maybe going out and playing with them a little will give me the confidence to use them
Sparky, you just kill me.   Smile
1668  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Colorado's Million Dollar Highway in the San Juan Mountains???? on: July 09, 2014, 11:19:11 am
I agree with RhealNL completely.

Adding that any time you camp at elevation 8000 or higher, it can quickly become winter in the middle of summer.  Many years ago my brother and I did an overnight back pack hike in the Tetons in the middle of August.  We woke up to 4 to 5 inches of snow.  We were concerned of missing the trail to get down from high elevation.  Snow at elevation is not unheard of in summer, and the Million Dollar Highway is one such place where it can happen.  So be sure your furnace is in tip-top shape, and your propane tank is full.....especially you diesel Sprinter folks with a propane generator.
1669  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 08, 2014, 09:31:47 am
Hi Gail and Hal!

I am glad you got active here to receive the full flavor of experiences and ideas from others owning a 2350.  Hopefully other current-day 2350 and former 2350 owners will provide input that will have you rethinking my inputs to you.  And that is what you want, having a full understanding from a variety of perspectives.  Be sure to ask again the questions you asked me, to all the community here.

Again,  Welcome
1670  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HWH Levelers on: July 08, 2014, 12:15:40 am
We don't have hydraulic leveling jacks.  We do it the old fashion way using Lynx leveling blocks.  Every time I pull them out, I wished we bought leveling jacks.  I know we could still get them installed.  I just haven't gotten to that Popeye moment yet.    "That's all I can stands and I can't stands no more" 
1671  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tires, Michelins Or ? on: July 01, 2014, 08:38:27 am
Thanks Tom.  A helpful for you for that enlightening information.

Apparently I am not crazy after-all.  At least not with our PC tires.  Smile
1672  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Advice on visiting Glacier National Park on: June 30, 2014, 05:13:53 pm
Last August 2013 we had planned for 3 to 4 nights in Glacier NP but ended up spending 14 nights in and near the park.  The weather is often cold, damp, and rainy in August, but the weather was awesome with ideal temps & sunny so we adjusted our trip around the change.  Ten of our nights were spent at the east side Rising Sun campground which did not require reservations.  They did have a 10 night limit, I recall $20 per night for us non-seniors.  Seniors was much less, maybe $10 per night, but not 100% sure on how cheap.  No hookups, just a dump station at the campground entrance.  That campground is maybe 5 miles inside the park from the Saint Mary's east entrance.  We had family stay one night in the KOA outside of Saint Mary's.  Our Rising Sun campsite was so much nicer....really SOOO much nicer.  We would have been miserable in that KOA, but understandably would be different if we needed hookups.  The bus picks you up at two locations near Rising Sun campground, one by the Rising Sun Lodge.  Our particular campsite happened to be a lot closer to the Saint Mary's Lake boat dock to the south so we walked there to get on the bus.

Wi-Fi is available at the Rising Sun lodge restaurant.  It requires a password so just ask the restaurant host for it.  Cell service is nil to sketchy, so Wi-Fi became essential for us to communicate with the outside world.  We really enjoyed our meals at that restaurant with the hosts and waiters/waitresses, all made the experience better yet.  There was a restaurant in the town 9 miles north of Saint Mary called "The Cattle Baron Supper Club", a good place for a great monstrous steak.  It's right off Highway 89, west side of street.

Like you say, a 2350 is not permitted on the  Going To-The-Sun Road.  To drive your 2350 to the west side of the park, you will have to take the southern route around the park.  Keep in mind that the land outside the park is National Forest so we took advantage, sleeping twice on those massive pull-offs, and once in the rest area along the route, (shshsh, officially no overnight parking in the rest area).  The trains were loud those nights but strangely, we actually enjoyed that.  It was one trip we decided to leave our Jeep Liberty home....oh well.  It worked out okay, but the Jeep would have improved time efficiency a lot.  The 2350 can be driven to all other places except one other scenic road in the south/east area of the park.  I forget the name.  Fortunately there is a longer way around so you can easily get everywhere around that region.  Going To The Sun Road was the only real obstacle for us.  I do believe a PC-2100 would be allowed to drive that road.  If it is questionable, I would do it anyway for the buses on the east side are so much larger.  The west road is more narrow with tighter hair-pin turns but a PC-2100 can handle it without any concern.  I think the restriction has much to do with parking up top at the pass.  If you can take up just one parking space, then you'll be fine.

When driving around the park east to west, be sure to visit the huge lodge there in the south/east.  We got lucky and were well entertained buy a young couple singing and playing guitar.  They were great.  A violin player serenaded us at the Grinnell Glacier area lodge.  Great affordable ice cream there too.  Good restaurant food at all lodges.  The west side area called Apgar by Lake McDonald is domesticated with accommodations of all sorts, which can get congested.  It's all worth visiting, our favorite was all the east side, best at the Grinnell Glacier lodge area.  There always is bear to be seen sometime in your day driving along the road there, or at the lodge itself, best at daybreak.  We seen 4 different bear, some repeatedly.  There was a yellow grizzly that hung out a couple hundred feet off the road for days of which always drew a huge roadside crowd.  Never so close to run to your car.  So beautiful a creature.  Be sure you each have a pair of binoculars or you will be fighting for them.

I would call the park and ask if your dog can ride the bus with you.  Be aware of dog restrictions on trails, I would assume there are.  

If you are good all-day hikers, I have some tips for some grand day views.  The hikes to Iceberg Lake and Grinnell Glacier Overlook were our top two.  But there are many shorter hikes for a half-day and less to awesome views too.

This type of trip is typical for us of which our PC-2350 with all it's amenities and capacities serve us well.  We just don't hook-up to much of anything except a fuel pump hose, and propane twice in the 4 weeks.
1673  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tires, Michelins Or ? on: June 30, 2014, 09:02:27 am
They hold air.  I don't really know what else to report. kevin
Interesting Comment there Kevin.  I feel the same with our original Michelin tires.  It is easy to report issues like "rough ride, noisy, cracked up fast", etc. but when all is well, your report indirectly says a lot.

I will say that our original Michelin tires are now 7 years old and I think with 21k or 23k miles of use.  No cracking yet, but is stored indoors (heated in winter) which makes the difference.  I did notice the strange looking uneven wear happening on the front tires again like I often dealt with on our first rig.  It takes but one occurrence from a couple days of a strong side wind while crossing the great plains.  It think it most commonly occurs on short wheel base rigs with lighter front axles.  The strange wear is not yet concerning to replace the front tires.  Our 4 rear tires still look great, like new.

I realize our situation is unique.  If you feel it's time for tires, buy them and enjoy your trips.  Don't take my story as any sort of "Lead" to follow.

I do feel strong over the benefits of indoor storage.  I highly recommend if you can arrange it somehow.  Check locally.  You might find a local warehouse being used for indoor RV storage at very low rates.  Their empty buildings would otherwise sit vacant earning nothing while they are seeking a company to lease their building.
1674  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tires, Michelins Or ? on: June 28, 2014, 11:22:04 pm
I am surprised a lighter weighted PC2350 would have such trouble.  It's not as if the tires are seeing so much weight.

If I were you, I'd drive the rig to your nearest Michelin dealer and let them tell you that they won't take care of you.  The recall might officially cover a certain time period, but there might be a hidden clause that dealers should take care of tires that come in like yours and include them in the recall.  It never hurts to ask.  Maybe the dealer will have a good suggestion as to what new tires to get.  If not replaced for free, maybe there is some pro-rating that could help defer your cost.
1675  Main Forum / General Discussion / Pondering Alcoa Alloy Wheels For Our 2007 2350 on: June 26, 2014, 12:30:50 pm
I always thought that our 2007 PC2350 would look so much better with alloy wheels like Dynamax includes with their rigs.  Every once in a great while I will do a quick search on wheels.  There seems to be a limited selection for an E350/E450 DRW cut-away chassis.  The one product that comes highly recommended is Alcoa.  The company supplies wheels for the big 18 wheeler rigs with a very strict quality control process.  They have a specific set of alloy wheels designed for Ford E-series DRW chassis.  They won't sell direct to consumers.  We would have to buy through independent retailers.  I found one such retailer who sells a complete package which includes 4 wheels & center caps, and lugs.  Per standards, we need to reuse our inner rear wheels.  The retailer's price seems fairly reasonable even considering shipping.  See it here:  I am figuring that unless there is a serious concern of going with Alcoa alloy wheels, I will upgrade when it's time to replace our tires.

Now $1100 for that Alcoa package is a whole lot of "extra" money for improved curb appeal, but I have also researched the value of our four 2007 steel wheels, lugs, and wheel covers.  Strangely, on Ebay they appear to be worth more in "used but excellent condition", compared to the new Alcoa wheel package.  Even if I am far off my estimated value and get only half the current used pricing, the Alcoa wheel upgrade would still quite affordable.

I would appreciate any and all comments, especially from you who have experience with Alcoa wheels on your previous motor homes.  I would assume there are benefits in unsprung weight, improved balance & tru-roundness, all contributing to a slightly better ride that I might not even notice.  I do wonder if there are notable draw-backs.  Our rig does stay fairly well preserved so I have no concern of salt or other such corrosion.
1676  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: TOWING- cargo trailer on: June 25, 2014, 03:24:31 pm
I too agree that "ANY" E350-V10 and E450-V10 PC with the standard 500/5000 pound hitch will handle that task well.
I am not 100% certain that old PCs made prior to 2004 and all Sprinters are rated less at 350/3500.

I agree that U-Haul trailers are equipped with surge brakes.  I do wonder if the tiniest of U-Haul trailers don't.  It would be worth asking them if renting a tiny trailer.
1677  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New chassis on: June 24, 2014, 02:38:13 pm
Excellent website, thank you...a "helpful" to ya!
E-Series cutaway = 92.5"
F-Series cut-away = 118.9"
difference = 26.4"
Not as much as would have expected but still detrimental for us.
A PC-2100 would go from 21'-2" to 23'-4".
A PC-2350 would go from 23'-8" to 25-10"....Yikes!
1678  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New chassis on: June 24, 2014, 10:59:06 am
ragoosp, I too wonder how the RV industry will respond to the upcoming changes in the chassis industry.  Who knows.  Motor homes may improve, or maybe our current-day rigs will be highly sought-after until they become too old for resale consideration.  We will find out together.

For me personally, an F-series would mean that I would have to scale shorter to model 2100 because our 2350 would be too long for our garage.  Forced to go there, that would be a real bummer to me.

It would be very interesting to compare dimensions from the front bumper to the back edge of the cut-away cab, E-series to F-series.  How much longer is the F-Series?  That is the dimension that changes the game.  The rest is secondary to me.  But "length" is my thing.  For others it's capability.
1679  Main Forum / General Discussion / Rear Storage Compartment Table - Sale Alert At Menards on: June 21, 2014, 11:50:22 am
$20 at Menards right now.  See it here:

This table stores nicely in the PC rear storage compartment as shown here, scroll down to item 16:,8.0.html
1680  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Suggestions for modifications on: June 20, 2014, 11:01:03 pm
Being the last year 2005, I would have thought a Rialta follower would have grabbed it because the later the better.

It does seem that in general, NADA-RV can be off on the high side compared to actual street values.  With regular automobiles NADA is almost always right on.  I think part of the problem is that NADA-RV cannot account for the huge range in RV condition.

An auto example, take my elderly mother's highly desirable 2002 Chevy Tracker ZR2 with only 16,000 miles.  Because it is always parked on a city street, the elements just wrecked it.  NADA says one thing, but all the raw faded plastic bumpers and fenders and salt-eaten alloy wheels say differently.  In my mother's case it might be worth replacing all the bolt-on ugly and then it would be true to NADA.

How many motor homes are stored indoors when not in-use?  Outdoor storage is extremely hard on any vehicle, but especially motor homes.  I think that is one reason why NADA-RV varies from street value.  Of coarse there are other factors as well.
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