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1681  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thinking About a Phoenix Cruiser on: August 02, 2011, 07:30:57 am
We own a 2007 2350 (non-Sprinter) floorplan, on an E350 chassis.  My wife will be the first to say the rear corner bed is not fun to get in and out from, but she tollerates the inconvenience.  Yes she is the one who sleeps by the window.  I do get out of bed for her to get out.  I too admit it is not ideal, but that would be my only negative comment on the floor plan.  For us twin beds would never work as we both demand to sleep together.  And besides, anything longer would not fit in our garage.

The rest of the layout works extremely well for us.  We do not have a slide-out and have no regrets about it.  The dinette is a nice size because of it.  With no slide-out, the furnace and other such appliances are mounted under the fridge and main closet.  That leaves the area under the bed more open to increased outdoor access storage of which I like a lot.  The no-slide dinette has larger cabinets over-head, and huge bench seat storage areas as compared to the couch in a slide-out with smaller over-head cabinets, and the couch has a drawer.  Given a slideout adds 400 to 500 pounds, that is something to think about if concerned of over-weighting a Sprinter.

We tow a Jeep Liberty 4x4 100% of the time which weighs 3800 pounds.  The E350/V10 handles it well.  Our 2350 fuel economy averaged for 5000 mile vacation was 9.2mpg with no consideration for gas generator usage.  I have no idea what the fuel economy would be if we did not tow anything, slowed down, and didn't always carry a full tank of fresh water.

If you decide to get a floorplan with a single barrel chair, I highly recommend you upgrade it to a 3rd captain chair as we did later on.

Click here to see our 2007 2350 with no slideout, and now with a 3rd captain chair.
1682  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Battery Corrosion on: July 31, 2011, 10:12:39 pm
Our 2007 2350 had a serious battery corrosion problem, exactly as Bob has described above.  It turned out one of the two batteries was not taking the charge as well as it should.  The ill battery had the charging system over-charging the pair, trying to get to them to a full charge.  Of coarse it never could, hence battery over-boil.  I replaced both batteries and I have not had any corrsion problems since.  Those metal strap clasps, battery terminals, and battery tray stay in good condition now.

I didn't realize I had a battery problem because the on-board charger never indicated a problem, and the RV functioned well..  I think I had that problem form during our first 3 week trip, but didn't figure it out untill well past the warranty period.

I bought the largest deep cycle batteries that Walmart sells.  They fit perfectly snug in the battery tray which makes the Tripp-Lite inverter's sensor wire with square tip, well wedged in-between.  The Walmart batteries also have a well engineered top where if there is an over-boil, it doesn't make a mess.  At least not right away.

Bob, I advise to take out both batteries and put them on a smart charger, one at a time.  You may find the one battery won't take a full charge.  At least that was my story.  BTW: I think the straps wick the acid to the clasp and hooks.
1683  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Trip Around Lake Michigan Shoreline (Some Lake Superior Too) on: July 29, 2011, 05:17:39 pm
Glad you made it without mishap or mechanical issues.
The only mechanical issue was getting a blowout on my bicycle, north of Traverse City on a paved bike path.  Yes we took the bikes along too, on the back of the Jeep.
1684  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Trip Around Lake Michigan Shoreline (Some Lake Superior Too) on: July 29, 2011, 02:37:09 pm
We spent 2 weeks traveling around Lake Michigan's shoreline in June and July this year.  We decided on this trip to significantly reduce miles to lower our fuel cost, compared to our cross-country trips from the Chicago area.  We never did this before, so it was a new experience for us.  We found MI state parks to be our favorite places to camp at, though we spent most of our daytime elsewhere.  We enjoyed light houses, golf, sight-seeing shorelines, and quiant shore-side towns.  We spent a little time in Traverse City during the Independance Day weekend for their Cherry Festival.  It was a much slower paced trip than we are accustom to which was also nice.  We did jump around in the Upper Penninsula to Lake Superior shores (light houses, Sault Ste Marie locks, Tahquamenon Falls )  We finished up at Pictured Rock National Lake Shore, then spent the last day from there heading back home to the Chicago area, via Wisconsin.

We pulled the Jeep on this trip and was very happy we did.  I think we put more miles on the Jeep than on the PC, and the Jeep's 4x4 capability came in handy one day in Sleeping Bear Dunes National Lake Shore.

I stumbled on this "Adventure Anywhere" picture opportunity in the rest area just north of Mackinac Bridge.  Taking the Jeep during the day, there were very few opportunities for pics of the PC with scenery.  One of these days, I'll have to update my Flickr site to post trip pics.

1685  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: inverter fan on: July 28, 2011, 11:41:13 am
Based on my older Tripp-Lite inverter, it sounds like the inverter is fine.  Our inverter fan will do the same when first turned on as long as there is no request for 110V.  As an experiment, plug in a 110V night light with the typical indoor Christmas tree size light bulb, and then turn on the inverter.  See if that night light stays on, and also observe the inverter fan.  The inverter fan might turn on and stay on only when significantly more power is requested, like running a coffee maker for example.  Also use the night light to check each outlet.

I do wonder if your TV is okay.  If it does not work, bypass the inverter and plug your TV directly to an external power source.  Also see if things change when running the generator.

The more you experiment with, the smarter of a discussion you can have with Kermit.

Good Luck there Billy
1686  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Oil on: July 27, 2011, 11:49:58 am
I really don't see a benefit in a larger oil filter as the one I use is spec'd for the V10.  But you are right in saying there is room for a massive one.

The magnets I use for oil filters were taken out from old computer hard drives.  They are the strongest magnets I know.  Be careful when handling a pair of them.  They will pinch to cut your skin & draw blood.

Here is a picture I found on the web, and they really are this strong.
1687  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Oil on: July 26, 2011, 10:32:22 pm
Standard oil filter for me.  I do stick on the bottom of the oil filter, a very strong magnet, done in hopes to capture more metal particles.
1688  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Oil on: July 26, 2011, 02:11:54 pm
After the first year of ownership, I decided to stay with full synthetic 5W-20, and a Motorcraft oil filter.  Given I put on less than 6000 miles per year, I change the oil anually just before my first trip of each year.  The motor home stays in doors when not on trips so the engine does not see seasonal climate change and humidity variations.  That makes me feel more comfortable with an anual oil change.
1689  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: electrical on: July 25, 2011, 10:45:47 pm
So in summary then.......

When extending your PC's 30 amp yellow power cord with one pictured above, it is recommended not to add more than one additional 25 foot, 30 amp extension cord purchased from Walmart, Menards, or other retail outlet.  The extra 25 feet might be getting near or slightly exceeding the recommended length when running the A/C, so be observant.

If you need to add 2 or more 30amp extension cords to reach the power peg, do NOT run the A/C that way.  If you need A/C, run the generator or engine's dash board A/C.  With a 30amp extension cord, limit your 110v usage to regular house hold items.

How does that sound?
1690  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: help planning vacation to yellowstone on: July 25, 2011, 04:53:53 pm
You'll never sell that 2350 of yours.  But, you're always welcome to come visit us in the Pocono Mountains, Vacationland of the east.
You are right about not selling our 2350.  As long as we need to cuddle up in bed, and live in a house that won't fit anything larger in the garage underneath, the 2350 is final.  But  ThankYou for the invitation.
1691  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: help planning vacation to yellowstone on: July 25, 2011, 03:57:11 pm
David, Before you make a decision on the 2551, take a ride over to my place and look at a 2552.
If I were getting close to placing an order on a 2551, I would take up that offer to check out a 2552.
1692  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: electrical on: July 25, 2011, 02:51:05 pm
Are you saying that using these extension cords is questionable?  I assumed they were all rated to the 30amp application.
1693  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: July 25, 2011, 02:38:40 pm
Our Liberty is a gaser and doesn't require money......yet.  It's just awefully irritating to drive.  The active handling/traction control is near dangerous.  When you need to get going fast, the engine likes to slow down so you don't lose control.  It over reacts way too much from the throttle action of the driver .

One other irritation which is now an industry trend, is the lack of a passenger side & rear door key hole.  When on vacation, we don't carry the huge bulky key with integrated keyless entry, to reduce bulk in our pockets.  We also don't want to submerge it when swimming or when caught in the rain.  We are camping outside afterall with an outdoor fun-mobile, right?  Who would take away all but one key hole on an outdoor fun-mobile?

I don't carry that bulky key in every day life either because I drive another vehicle daily.  It's my wife's Jeep of which I drive only when we are together.  With that said, I can't open the door for my wife in everyday life.  I always have to open the driver door, then hit the unlock button for her.

Those goof ball bean counters in the auto industry really need to think smarter.  They save $10 in the cost of parts and labor but torture the people that bought the vehicle.  Shopping for the next 4x4 with key holes for every door, will be a very high priority.
1694  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: July 25, 2011, 12:56:47 pm
Reading through this, I am a bit confused about the Blue Ox.  Does it have a cross bar between tow vehicle mounting points as I show here with my previous tow vehicle, a 2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder, the same with my 2006 Jeep Liberty?


If you don't have a cross bar to distribute lateral stress equally across the two mounting points on the tow vehicle, that would be very concerning to me with my Liberty, but not my previous MR2 Spyder.  I say this because my Spyder had a hidden single cross bar bracket that was permanently bolted to the vehicle.  My Liberty has just two wimpy individual brackets, each bolting independantly to the vehicle.  Under severe lateral stress, it all goes to just one bracket.  My saving grace is the cross bar on the Falcon-II tow bar.

2000 MR2 Spyder CLICK HERE To See It mounting bracket distributes lateral stress from "S" turns.
2006 Liberty CLICK HERE To See Them 2 independant mounting brackets relies completely on the Falcon-II cross bar to distribute lateral stress.
1695  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: July 25, 2011, 08:59:59 am
Ron, I have never in my life seen a Roadmaster Falcon stored with the cross bar left on the tow bar instead of on the toad.  My previous motorhome had a Roadmaster and I distinctly remember the instruction manual showing unhooking the ends on the bar rods, not by unhooking the crossbar from the toad.  I realize it's six of one and half dozen of the other, but it means when you store it as shown  it obstructs getting into the rear compartment on the PC. Jerry
Jerry, you are correct in stating that I unhook the Jeep differently than what is considered normal.  You are also correct in stating the tow bar triangle interferes when opening the rear hatch.

But......

It is extremely fast and easy to hookup and unhook the two vehicles that way.  To get into the rear storage compartment, I pivot the hitch to the left, then drop it to the ground in the same direction which then clears the rear door.  That takes but a few seconds.

I would assume Roadmaster does not instruct people to do as I do for fear that they would drive the motor home with the hitch as shown in my picture.  That would be very dangerous because the latch to lock it vertically, could easily let go on the first big bump.  I do drive with it that way, but only very slow at camp sites when manuevering the motor home after unhooking.

I never unhook the two vehicles the official way.  It's just too much work and hassle.

BTW, after I unhook the triangle, I quickly twist and pull out the remaining tow brackets (Roadmaster calls Front Arms) to the Jeep, because they would fall out by themselves when driving the Jeep.

To everyone else, this is the triangle being discussed.


This is the twist and pull bracket called EZ, by Roadmaster.
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