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1681  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Any rear end drag problems with 218' wheelbase? on: April 03, 2013, 10:00:32 am
The longer wheelbase I think is the biggest asset to better handling.
In total agreement.  I wonder if the suspension upgrades always discussed (HD stabilizer bars and all) would change "Good Handling" into "Great Handling".  Has anyone with longer PCs (say a 2700 and longer) done such upgrading?  It would be interesting to read your thought on your experience.
1682  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 02, 2013, 11:50:34 pm
BTW, I like what you did with the kitchen drawers, I may look into that as well. I've already used some of your ideas like making the third chair a captains chair, it will be put to good use when my grand-daughter starts camping with me.
Thanks for the compliment but I can't take any credit for the 3rd captain chair idea.  I am so bad remembering people's names, but it was another member here who special ordered his PC-2350 with the captain seat instead of a barrel chair at the time.  I love our captain seat, not just for our own relaxation, but very nice and safe for a 3rd passenger.  They sit higher yet still able to look out the front window fairly well by reclining a bit.

I think I can take credit on the galley drawer modification as I have not heard of anyone else ever discussing it.  Smile
1683  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Swap single pane windows for dual pane? on: April 02, 2013, 10:03:19 am
I am quite surprised to read that there is a 200 pound differnece between single and dual pane glass.  I suppose it also depends on the PC model.  The larger the model, the more glass there is.
1684  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 02, 2013, 10:00:51 am
Bruce and Sharon,

Going from a 37 footer to a 2350 is quite dramatic.  I hope you have actually walked through a 2350 crawled onto its rear corner double bed.  Many people find that the deal breaker.  Many others who bought a 2350 switch rigs later to a 2551 or 2552.

As for my wife and I, we could never sleep separately so we deal with the inconveniences of our 2350 bed. 

Someone recently did something custom, converting his 2552 twin beds into a single massive bed.  Somehow he is able to break-down the center isle portion quickly.
1685  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 01, 2013, 12:58:21 am

You ended up doing pretty much the same as we did back in 2007 with Roadmaster bars, Koni shocks, and Safe-T-Plus.  We also have a Henderson rear trac bar, but no Sumo springs.

I preached about this until people got tired of reading about it.  Some people thought I was a bit "Out There" over the subject.  Then I thought maybe the improved chassis introduced in 2008 is "THAT" much better.  If your smaller 2552/E450 was so much improved, I can't imagine the benefits larger motor homes would experience.

So now we all know.  Thanks for sharing this data.  It would have made for a great You Tube video for all the RV world to see.

Ron.....not crazy after-all.
1686  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got my new PC 3100 on Tue. on: March 31, 2013, 08:13:53 am
Hi Jim & Rae,

Congratuations on your new PC-3100!
1687  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 30, 2013, 11:32:20 pm
I took my new 2552 to Mainline Truck and Trailer Service (trained by Henderson). The handling of the 450 was pretty good but wanted to see if improvements could be made. Ended up putting on new front and rear sway bars and a rear trac bar. They mounted a camera under my PC and drove it while taking videos of the front sway bar, both with the original and the new. The original looked like a wet noodle flopping around. I was amazed at the difference in the videos between the original and new sway bars. There was definitely an improvement in the handling as well. I feel it was money well spent.
This information is extremely valuable, worth sharing with the RV community.

The 2552 is on the lighter side of E450 based motor homes.  I am left to wonder what happens as the rigs get bigger and heavier.
1688  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 30, 2013, 04:11:35 pm
.....the owner said his was one of the chassis where Ford added front sway bars if that's the right term......
Actually he got it backwards.  In 2008, Ford added a "Rear" sway bar to the E350 chassis on that PC-2100.  The front bar has always been.  Hopefully the smaller diameter Ford bars will be enough for satisfied handling.

I look forward to your report Gail.  Well wishes!
1689  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Swap single pane windows for dual pane? on: March 30, 2013, 09:39:52 am
He said that the actual window sizes were too different, so we couldn't switch from the single-pane windows we have to doubles.
If  your plan is to swap out the glass alone, I would agree because the dual pain is much thicker.  It won't fit in the tracks of the single pain.

I assumed the project also replaced the frames which is why I mentioned high cost.  I would ask Kermit if the frames are interchangable.  If so, for cost sake, maybe replace only the windows having the greatest impact, the big ones next to where you sit and sleep.

I am referencing the earlier slide-open windows, not the current day pop-open flush mount.
1690  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Attachment Folder Size Increased on: March 30, 2013, 09:36:28 am
Thank you Aimee for your continued care of us!
1691  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 30, 2013, 01:03:42 am
In-Touch with you Gail!  You'll have to report back how it went for you.  Remember what I said about potential handling issues, and not let that get in the way of a good choice otherwise.  There are remedies.
1692  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Swap single pane windows for dual pane? on: March 29, 2013, 09:13:10 pm
It sounds expensive to do.

I can say we have dual panes glass and glad we have them, Real noticable improvement for thermal properties and also much more quiet when sleeping in Walmarts, truck stops, and rest areas.  Even more quiet when on the open road.  This comparing to our old rig, not to a single pane PC.
1693  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Need Help with trip west on: March 29, 2013, 08:57:33 pm
Hi Judi,

The only comment I have is about the area of Arches.

 ThumbsUp Arches is one of my favorite National Parks.  ThumbsUp

While there, you are only a few miles from Canyonlands.  Plan a full day there renting a Jeep Wrangler (early morning to late night) from Farabees in Moab, enter the canyon thru Potash, see Musselman Arch (I dare you to walk across it) drive down to the Colorado River (don't chicken out), then up the switchback mining road.  Once out of the canyon, tour the rim road and get to Pucker Pass and drive through it too.

Do NOT take your own vehicle because it will have permenent rattles and squeeks after that excursion.  Farabees has a map of exactly what I am talking about.  Call them for prices on renting a Wrangler and about the Jeep trail I mentioned.  Do NOT rent from any of the other Jeep rental outfits around because they rent old tired Jeeps.  Farabees rents brand new Wranglers and in the end the price is the same.  Unlike the others, you can return Farabees Jeeps dirty and after hours.  Given you will be there in summer, you might consider an enclosed Jeep with a/c.  Arches, Canyonlands, and Moab are about 5 minutes away from eachother.

That one Adventure Anywhere pic of our PC with little red car parked next to it in the canyon with Irene sitting in a lawn chair, the canyon wall across the water is Arches, but we were camping in a BLM campground across the street from the trailhead to the 3rd largest arch (maybe called a natural bridge) in the USA called Morning Glory.  That hike requires lots of drinking water though relatively flat.  We ran short of water and suffered in September.  The BLM campground was 5-10 minutes outside of Moab but in another direction of Arches & Canyonlands.

If you can swing your visit to the area in middle of September, you will enjoy the experience so much better due to lack of heat.  That also allows for a top-down experience with the Wrangler.

If you come back from your vacation and post that you did not rent a Farabees Jeep Wrangler and go down into Canyonlands, I will be so very disappointed.  People of all ages and back grounds drive that trail so don't ever think you are too old or inexperienced for it.  Anyone who is only a little daring can do it safely.  Aside from the adventure, the scenery is some of the best jaw dropping in the entire region.  Unlike most canyons, that one is best seen from inside on the middle plateau.

It is a full day adventure, but you won't burn but a 1/2 tank of gas, so don't worry about that at all.

About your time in Arches, it's a small park, but much to enjoy.  If pressed hard for time, you MUST hike through The entire Windows section, hike to Delicate Arch, and also the loop trail with Dark Angel.  You don't have to hike all the way to Dark Angel but take that loop trail.  The three hikes I mentioned covers the cream of the crop.  But if you have the time, don't pass up the others including the Firey Furnace ranger guided hike as Sue mentioned below.  One afternoon we drove our tow vehicle down the rough road along with a moderate hike to tower arch.  We really enjoyed that.

As I mentioned earlier, we enjoyed camping in the area in a BLM on the Colorado River, but there are a number of RV parks close by in Moab, minutes from Arches.  Camping in Arches is ideal to me, but is in high demand.  Given our flexible trip schedule, making reservations 9 months in advance doesn't work for us.
1694  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Any rear end drag problems with 218' wheelbase? on: March 29, 2013, 09:01:47 am
I would install those affordable yet very capable Firestone airbags that RV people always talk about.  Set it up the cheapest & easiest way so each bag has it's own air valve.  This way if your rig leans to the left or the right due to your load, you can level it out as well as lift the rear up.  If you are buying a new rig, have the factory include this in your order.  They are good about adding such things.

Adding: I was actually thinking of installing them on our 2350 but concerned of a rougher ride from them.  I would like a little extra posterior ground clearance because our E350/2350 does seem to sit an inch or two low in back when on trips.  A little higher would be a little better.
1695  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Any pets travel with you? on: March 28, 2013, 04:21:43 pm
So that you wont think thats a typo, shes travelling with six dogs.  nod
As Jed Clampett would say "Weee Doggie!"
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