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1696  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: December 01, 2012, 01:12:32 am
Hi roadslesstravelled,

We own a 2007 model year 2350, same year, different chassis (E350), and different floor plan.  This is what I know.

The 2007 PC model year was the first year equipped standard with the whole house inverter.  That is simply great.  We have the inverter and love having 110 volts handy all the time.  I personally feel the 2007 model year was the first year of today's Phoenix Cruiser in regards to standard features and such.  Buying a 2007 or a 2013 of the same floor plan, there are only superficial differences with the house and features.  A 2006 is also a good year but you have to watch out for what might be lacking as it has a shorter list of standard equipment.

Early 2007s are sometimes built on 2006 chassis, very commonly practiced among all motor home manufactures.  If the chassis is a 2007, it will have a tan colored Ford dash board.  If the chassis is a 2006 or older, the dash board will be a medium gray color.  Mind you, other than the colors mentioned, I don't know of any chassis differences.  2006 or 2007, it really doesn't matter.  Just prepare yourself for the possibility.

The drifting/wandering feeling while driving is a very common problem with motor homes of all brands and sizes.  Do not be discouraged about that as there are affordable remedies.  Start with a front wheel alignment from a reputable truck suspension shop, and proper tire pressure.  If you are still not satisfied, then upgrading your shocks, front & rear stabilizer bars, steering stabilizer, and adding a rear trac bar are all worth consideration, but not neccessarlity prioritized in that order.

Welcome to the PC forum.  Maybe you'll become a PC owner one day soon like most of us here.

1697  Main Forum / General Discussion / Thank You Kermit on: November 29, 2012, 02:55:31 pm
I was awarded $500 from the factory for helping with a sale by showing our PC to "njheart on the road" & sister.  I emailed Kermit with a unique request.  Instead of a $500 check, I requested $500 (with shipping) worth of upgrades to our PC.

Our PC turned 5 years old in June of 2012.  To control cost when ordering our unit back then, we elected to get the cloth dinette instead of leather, but we had always regretted that decision.  Kermit had Paul's Seating make up leather cushions using a much more dense foam (also by request).  The cushions arrived yesterday and I quickly assembled one bench to compare against the original cushions.  My wife and I agree, the transformation was quite remarkable.  The comfort factor was the "Big Deal".  The new leather bench cushions are so much more comfortable than the older cloth ones.  The increased foam density along with the smooth finish for ease of shifting our weight along with sliding in and out, was the greatest pleasure.

I had also asked Kermit about a stove side splash mirror as well because that feature was introduced later.  Kermit tucked the mirror in between seat cushions.

So today our PC interior has received some great updating which we appreciate so much, and our rig looks even better the next time we show it off.  Some day I'll have to take a few pictures of our dinette with the new cushions.

Thank You Kermit for accomodating my request.  Cheer

1698  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Replacement coach batteries on: November 21, 2012, 09:25:50 pm
I think our original 2007 2350 E350 12V house batteries were never healthy from the start.  Two years later I bought new larger 12V batteries from Walmart and they just fit in the battery tray with no room to spare in the one dimension, and they are taller.  They were around $75 a piece three years ago.  I suspect they would cost more today.  They hold more energy today than the originals did when they were new.  I like the design of the top of the Walmart batteries because acid boil-overs are better contained.  If we run into battery trouble with the Walmarts, there is always a Walmart near by to take advantage of a warranty.  Of coarse we keep the receipt of purchase with us.

Our Ford chassis battery is the original one, still doing well.
1699  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What tires are ya'll buying? on: November 19, 2012, 12:22:37 am
I had always understood while in long term storage, it was best to inflate the tires to the max pressure as stated on them, 85psi for many E-rated tires.  This to minimize the distortion you (Jerry) mentioned and to minimize ground contact.  It also helps to have the extra tire pressure when stored off site where some air is lost from just sitting around.  In the spring time when you go back to the storage lot, you might be lucky enough not needing to air up the tires there.
1700  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What tires are ya'll buying? on: November 18, 2012, 09:27:34 am
If that was true, then new old-stock tires would get cracked up during the first mile driven.  But I never heard of that happening.
1701  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What tires are ya'll buying? on: November 15, 2012, 10:56:50 am
I have heard that most tire shine sprays are not good and produce sidewall cracking.
I too have heard that some protectants are bad, others are okay.

I have never applied anything to our 2007 tires and all remains crack-free, keeping in-mind our PC is stored indoors.
1702  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: My 2350 handling problem on: November 05, 2012, 12:08:20 am
Denny and Barb,

I am not sure what a Blue Ox frame stabilizer is.  Do you mean a rear stabilizer bar?  If so, is it a heavy duty bar, thicker than the stock bar and with polymer bushings?

If you mean to say a rear trac bar, I feel that item is most appreciated when towing, though it would do good even if not towing.  The trac bar is most noticed when traveling straight down the highway, sitting or laying in the rear half of the rig, no longer sloshing side to side in continuous rapid succession.  But the rear trac bar does a good job under all driving conditions, helping to reduce steering compensation.
1703  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: November 03, 2012, 10:32:26 pm
George, I love your story.  Happy Trails.
1704  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: My 2350 handling problem on: November 03, 2012, 09:34:36 pm
Thanks for the update.  I'd like to hear your on-going experience.

I don't have to tell you that many of us with the Ford E350 under a PC-2350 have done suspension uprades to be happy with the handling.
1705  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: November 03, 2012, 09:26:36 pm
Intermittent problems with a remote is often caused by lightly corroded battery terminals.  Be sure the terminals don't have a light green or chauky coating.  If so, I use a micro-sized wire brush on my Dremel tool, but there are numerous ways of getting the contacts clean.

If all that checks out well, the second thing would be the circuit board inside the remote.  The remote's rubber buttons push a black carbon rubber pad to the circuit board to make contact.  Actually the pad shorts wires together on the circuit board creating a switch.  If you can open the housing and can get the circuit board out, look for patterns of gold.  Using a clean eraser, rub the gold shiny.  The black carbon ends of the buttons should be cleaned with a Q-tip and rubbing alcohol.  With all the shiny gold areas of the circuit board clean and the black pads clean and dry, reassemble and see what happens.

I do this as needed to my kids video game controllers and especially my key fobs, usually needed once every 4 years pending usage and especially contaminants like dust & liquids.
1706  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Big Bend National Park on: November 03, 2012, 09:15:26 pm
Border Patrol was on heightened alert.
My brother and his wife were there last winter and said it got down-right uncomfortable when hiking near and along the Rio Grand.  He said that there were often out-of-place people walking the trails.  Many signs were posted on restrictions of buying from illegal people that would land you in very serious trouble with the USA.  And of course there was opportunity to purchase.  My brother recommended camping only in the main camp grounds, not isolated primative camp grounds.  Hike all you like but stay on the main trails.

My other brother, older than me, he loves to camp alone.  In Organ Pipe Cactus NP, another border park, he day-hiked on a designated park trail to a natural spring.  While eating his lunch there, he heard wrustling in the brush, again people out of place, trying to stay out of his sight.  Needless to say my brother's rest period immediately ended.

My point is.......
You need to think a little differently when camping in the border parks.  Fishing at a nice quiet isolated spot along the Rio might get you into an uncomfortable situation.  Camping remotely could get worse than uncomfortable.  It's fine and safe to visit and stay in the parks, just sleep in camp grounds with lots of other people like yourself, doing as you are doing.  Don't isolate yourself.

I hope to go back to Big Bend NP in the new few years as I have not been there since a child, but taking appropriate precaution.
1707  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Re: Ladies. PG 13 on: November 02, 2012, 11:38:36 pm
Now that's one of your better jokes Billy.   rolling on the floor
1708  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Setting up a toad on: November 02, 2012, 11:37:19 pm
I have a Roadmaster bar/hitch system and a Unified braking system.  It all works good and am pleased with everything about them.  But I don't have experience with other brands.  Owners of Blue Ox praise their decision.  The best I can offer is to increase the confusion.

One thing about the Unified braking really really works well, but it is complex and installed "into" the tow vehicle.  Unless you know what you are doing, it isn't easy to remove and install in another vehicle.  If you can install it in the first tow vehicle, then you are qualified to remove it and install it in a replacement tow.  But don't plan on switching back and forth for it is too integrated into the tow vehicle..
1709  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers? on: November 01, 2012, 06:44:21 pm

You are absolutely correct about the rear axle.  The dual wheels were fake, actually worse than rigs equipped with single rear wheels.  Using custom fabricated wheels, the inside of the outer wheel bolted to the outside of the inner wheel.  That inner wheel bolted conventionally to the axle hub using just the typical 5 lug pattern.  It was rediculous.

Our saving grace was that the Mirage weighed only 3600 pounds plus people & supplies.  It was a very light weight rig.  The rear axle never failed us.  But self contained motor homes like the Dolphin, Winnebago Warrier, and the kind with full blown motor home features, they were in danger while still on the factory floor.

Those goofy rear axled motor homes were manufactured through 1987.  In 1988 Toyota introduced true dual wheels paired with an appropriate heavy duty axle very similar to conventional motor homes.  The problem went away, but the reputation stuck like glue.

For our 1983 Mirage, I replaced the rear duals with large single rear tire around 1986/87.  After a number of years dealing with handling troubles, in 1995 I finally took the rig to a place who educated me on the free axle upgrade from Toyota.  They provided a brand new 1995 rear axle assembly seen below, and me the labor.  I had to sign a waiver stating I would never sue Toyota over this.  When finished the rig was solid and performed great til the day I sold it.

Here is what Toyota provided free including shipping to the shop of my choice.

Here is the upgrade in 2007 when I sold the rig, a very conventional design, the right solution to a huge problem.

I found an internet picture of fake rear wheels.  It isn't very clear, but look close.
This set appears to have a 6 bolt pattern but my 1983 had 5.
1710  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New pics from Daytona soon! on: October 31, 2012, 03:40:15 pm
I don't know how to feel about a good looking motor home on a race car track.   The only time I have seen anything of the kind was in a demolition derby.  LOL  Very cool!  How fast did they let you go?
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