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1696  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: electrical on: July 25, 2011, 02:51:05 pm
Are you saying that using these extension cords is questionable?  I assumed they were all rated to the 30amp application.
1697  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: July 25, 2011, 02:38:40 pm
Our Liberty is a gaser and doesn't require money......yet.  It's just awefully irritating to drive.  The active handling/traction control is near dangerous.  When you need to get going fast, the engine likes to slow down so you don't lose control.  It over reacts way too much from the throttle action of the driver .

One other irritation which is now an industry trend, is the lack of a passenger side & rear door key hole.  When on vacation, we don't carry the huge bulky key with integrated keyless entry, to reduce bulk in our pockets.  We also don't want to submerge it when swimming or when caught in the rain.  We are camping outside afterall with an outdoor fun-mobile, right?  Who would take away all but one key hole on an outdoor fun-mobile?

I don't carry that bulky key in every day life either because I drive another vehicle daily.  It's my wife's Jeep of which I drive only when we are together.  With that said, I can't open the door for my wife in everyday life.  I always have to open the driver door, then hit the unlock button for her.

Those goof ball bean counters in the auto industry really need to think smarter.  They save $10 in the cost of parts and labor but torture the people that bought the vehicle.  Shopping for the next 4x4 with key holes for every door, will be a very high priority.
1698  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: July 25, 2011, 12:56:47 pm
Reading through this, I am a bit confused about the Blue Ox.  Does it have a cross bar between tow vehicle mounting points as I show here with my previous tow vehicle, a 2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder, the same with my 2006 Jeep Liberty?

If you don't have a cross bar to distribute lateral stress equally across the two mounting points on the tow vehicle, that would be very concerning to me with my Liberty, but not my previous MR2 Spyder.  I say this because my Spyder had a hidden single cross bar bracket that was permanently bolted to the vehicle.  My Liberty has just two wimpy individual brackets, each bolting independantly to the vehicle.  Under severe lateral stress, it all goes to just one bracket.  My saving grace is the cross bar on the Falcon-II tow bar.

2000 MR2 Spyder CLICK HERE To See It mounting bracket distributes lateral stress from "S" turns.
2006 Liberty CLICK HERE To See Them 2 independant mounting brackets relies completely on the Falcon-II cross bar to distribute lateral stress.
1699  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Why Jeep Liberty? on: July 25, 2011, 08:59:59 am
Ron, I have never in my life seen a Roadmaster Falcon stored with the cross bar left on the tow bar instead of on the toad.  My previous motorhome had a Roadmaster and I distinctly remember the instruction manual showing unhooking the ends on the bar rods, not by unhooking the crossbar from the toad.  I realize it's six of one and half dozen of the other, but it means when you store it as shown  it obstructs getting into the rear compartment on the PC. Jerry
Jerry, you are correct in stating that I unhook the Jeep differently than what is considered normal.  You are also correct in stating the tow bar triangle interferes when opening the rear hatch.


It is extremely fast and easy to hookup and unhook the two vehicles that way.  To get into the rear storage compartment, I pivot the hitch to the left, then drop it to the ground in the same direction which then clears the rear door.  That takes but a few seconds.

I would assume Roadmaster does not instruct people to do as I do for fear that they would drive the motor home with the hitch as shown in my picture.  That would be very dangerous because the latch to lock it vertically, could easily let go on the first big bump.  I do drive with it that way, but only very slow at camp sites when manuevering the motor home after unhooking.

I never unhook the two vehicles the official way.  It's just too much work and hassle.

BTW, after I unhook the triangle, I quickly twist and pull out the remaining tow brackets (Roadmaster calls Front Arms) to the Jeep, because they would fall out by themselves when driving the Jeep.

To everyone else, this is the triangle being discussed.

This is the twist and pull bracket called EZ, by Roadmaster.
1700  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: July 25, 2011, 12:00:07 am
I might consider another Jeep, but quality remains an issue with Jeeps. DJM
I am with you on that one.  Our 2006 Jeep Liberty gaser does not impress me at all regarding quality and all the rest.  My wife likes it a lot because it's cute to her.  It's her daily driver, and so that is why we have it.  I do like towing a 4x4 very much, but would not consider anything Chrylser again.  I'd look closer at the Ford and GM lineup, and anything else that is not a Chrysler.

Sorry if I insulted any Chrysler owners here.
1701  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: help planning vacation to yellowstone on: July 24, 2011, 10:19:26 am
I did buy-direct from Pauls Seating, paying full price because the factory no longer installed my model chair (called Lexus) for their new PCs.  I was hoping PC-USA would rep for me, but I had to work direct with Paul.  I really didn't mind paying a little more because I was still able to get an exact match for a 4 year old rig.  A lengthy search of the shop revealed Paul no longer had the original leather and vinyl material.  Material from his supplier was very questionable too.  After many weeks of all that, someone in Paul's shop eventually found a small stash, just enough to make one seat.  The higher price I paid did include lumbar support which I didn't request, but was Paul's only in-stock back-rest frame.  I am very happy to have paid $425 which included delivery to the house.

About the jack-knife sofa in the earlier PC models, I have the dinette without a slide-out so I don't have first-hand experience.  But all I read from RV owners across all types of RVs, is how uncomfortable they are to sleep on.  I wondered if there was a place under or behind the jack-knife to store a rolled up foam topper, used to help with discomfort.

On one trip, I got sick and slept on our dinette converta-bed for 3 nights.  I was pleasently surprised how comfortable it was for my 5'-11" and 180 pound body.  I was just able to fully stretch out, the wood ticking both my hair and feet.  The cushions were also nice to sleep on.  I only regret getting the cloth dinette.  I wished I ordered the leather.  Maybe one day.  I still have the manufacture tags on each cushion, made by someone other than Pauls Seating.
1702  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: July 24, 2011, 12:51:59 am
2006 Jeep Liberty 4-down with Roadmaster tow bar and Unified tow brake.

1703  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Does anyone tow with a Sprinter ? on: July 24, 2011, 12:47:24 am
Definitely NO place for a dog behind the seats.  There is storage behind the seats, but is hatched with locks to secure personal belongings.
1704  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Does anyone tow with a Sprinter ? on: July 23, 2011, 06:48:56 pm
Can Smart cars be towed 4-wheel-down?  If so, maybe just the stick shift version.  Going with a Smart for a Sprinter, is very smart.  They weigh around 1800 pounds without the trailer......right?

I towed 4-wheel-down, a little red Toyota MR2 Spyder, the one on the PC opening page.  I think it weighed 300 pounds more than a Smart, coming in at 2100 pounds.  I did not have secondary braking and considered that marginal.  I would think it would make a nice alternative to a Smart.  Very fun to sight-see in with the top down too.  We got 31mpg around town. Unknown for open roads, but assumed it's better.
1705  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Electrical Issue on: July 23, 2011, 12:03:41 pm
Thanks for sharing!  If I start to smell anything, I will quickly pull the panel and tighten any loose connections.
1706  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Does anyone tow with a Sprinter ? on: July 23, 2011, 11:47:34 am

You might want to ask that question on a larger RV forum such as where you can pick the brains of a much larger pool Sprinter chassis motor home owners.

I am curious as to the various comments/experiences you receive.
1707  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Emergency Road service on: July 22, 2011, 01:21:52 pm
I have even seen patches with a rubber finger that gets inserted into and pulled out through the hole of the tire.  That seems better yet.  But that can be used only when the puncture is at 90 degrees or no so far off.
1708  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Emergency Road service on: July 22, 2011, 12:56:48 pm
Yes Jerry, I agree.

Shops want to use a patch on the inside becasue it is a more reliable method of repair.  My suggested roadside tire repair method using the sticky rope gets RVers back on the road quickly.  If they are not comfortable with that as a long term repair, then they can get it repaired better at their convenience.

For myself, I have no concern using the sticky rope for a permanent repair, as long as the puncture is clean and in a good spot on the tire.  The best place is in thick thread or tight thread area, for more depth for the rope to do it's job.

In the case of RV tires, most get replaced due to age & cracking, not from thread wear.  This makes using the rope, less a concern.

Just my opinion on that.
1709  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: What batteries R we using on: July 22, 2011, 11:05:25 am
On other RV forums, there is some discussion of the advantages in having two 6v batteries in series, instead of the typical 12v in parallel.  Flashlights are setup the same way, partially for the same reasons.

On my 2007 2350, one of my original 12v batteries was diagnosed as a failer after two years of service.  I decided to stay with 12v batteries and replaced them both with two larger 12v from Walmart.  They were the largest ones Walmart stocks.....they have a yellow label, though I forgot the brand name.  The two larger batteries fit in the slide-out battery tray perfectly without the need to add my little wood shims used with the original batteries to keep them close to eachother so the little white wire with square tip temp sensor could measure the battery temperature more accurately.

At Walmart, I went through their stash of batteries, selected the ones that were manufactured most recently, and having the same manufacturing month/year.  They cost around $70 each, but they have a lot more power than the original ones ever had.  I do wonder if one of my original batteries had issues from the start or shortly thereafter because right from day-one I struggled to maintain battery reserves much more than I do with the Walmarts now.  The larger size will make a difference, but I did not think so much.

One other thing I like about the Walmart batteries are the tops & caps.  If there is any boil-over, the top & caps don't purge it so quickly.  It seems there is a tiny top reservoir design to handle the occasion which would surely save my battery tray and connections.
1710  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Good Sam on: July 20, 2011, 07:42:46 am
Hey, I do have the ladder.  I can display my decals on it.  The only trouble is that nobody would see them with the ladder in my basement.   Smile
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