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1711  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selecting The Right Full Body Color PC (& Friendly Advise To PC-USA) on: June 18, 2012, 04:40:06 pm
Me thinks you have gone too far in expressing your "OPINION"!! pulling hair out
It wasn't meant to be "Going Too Far".  Maybe my input comes on too strong.  I am just trying to give them some tips to help show their "Art-On-Wheels" better.

If you study the bottom two pictures (the head-on shots) closely, compare the B+ caps.  They are identical caps, but note the gray painted cap clearly shows it angling sideways to aero-dynamic sides.  That picture clearly demonstrates how wonderfully aero-dynamic the PC truly is.

The bottom-most head-on pic gives the illusion that the cap goes straight back without any aerodynamic properties.  There is very little shown in the way of aerodynamics and over-all styling.  The front bumper is wider than the rest of the rig.  It is the result of taking the picture too close to the rig.  Having the doors open doesn't help either.  You will never see the doors open in an automotive brochure unless a model is present, or to bring out a very specific feature, say gull wing doors for example.

The PC photographer needs to stand 50 to 70 feet away (even more is better yet), place his camera on a cheap $30 Walmart tripod, and zoom in.  This avoids the distortion from the fish-eye effect.  ISO settings need to be set lower as to avoid a grainy picture.  Cheap 10x-20x zoom 6mp-12mp cameras all have such settings/adjustments.

This is the kind of thing I am trying to bring out constructively, not insultingly.

As can happen in forums, sometimes a point can be easily misunderstood, recieved harshly when in-fact it really meant very kindly.  JimDenny, Please believe me when I say that I am intending to be very kind and constructive.  Not a complaining critic with a strong opinion.

The PC is very stylish and aerodynamic for a motor home.  I am only trying to help the factory show it off better.
1712  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selecting The Right Full Body Color PC (& Friendly Advise To PC-USA) on: June 18, 2012, 02:05:02 pm
You are absolutley right about that.  A hired professional could cost an arm and a leg.

I use a $150 Canon 12x zoom, 8mp camera, a 6 foot ladder, a tripod, and 100 clicks and I've got plenty of pics to work with.  And I almost never touch up anything.  I am a novice that learned from many wrong ways on how to take a picture of a vehicle.  I am just trying to share with the factory what I have learned.
1713  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selecting The Right Full Body Color PC (& Friendly Advise To PC-USA) on: June 18, 2012, 01:25:17 pm
Hi Tom, Everyone is entitled to their opinion, me to mine, and you to yours.  And all is well except for my helpful rating number.   Smile  I learned from experience in selling Corvettes over the years.  Pictures are everything up to the point of getting a prospective buyer to see the car in person.  Then the car sells itself.  If the buyer can't physically see the car in-person (or in this case a motor home), then the pictures are all they have to go by.

I only mean well.  Maybe I'll have Aimee delete this if it becomes too contraversial.
1714  Main Forum / General Discussion / Selecting The Right Full Body Color PC (& Friendly Advice To PC-USA) on: June 18, 2012, 11:26:33 am
I was going to reply to another post and thought this is best as a new thread for people who are at that point in the decision process.

Back in May of 2007 when it came time for my wife and I to decide on the exterior full body paint color, we really wanted to go green.  Unfortunately at the time, any FB green pics available were of poor quality and under poor conditions.  When we visited the factory, they only had a green lower body paint unit which did not appeal to us.  We could not in clear conscience select the FB green.  So we went with our second best choice, the FB gray, called Morning Mist.  It is a good color that we like, but we were never head-over-heels in love with our decision.

It took well over 2 years, nearly 3 years for me to find any decent quality pictures of a FB green PC on-line.  I hesitated on showing them to my wife but did, and we jointly agreed that we should have taken the chance and gone with our gut feeling with the green.  Oh well, gray "it is" for a very very long time, hopefully forever.  We figure if our rig ever required a re-paint job for whatever reason, we would consider going green then.

Our rig in forever Morning Mist gray.



Here is the FB green we wished we had gambled on.
Sorry to whoever's pic this is.  I hope you don't mind me posting it here for all to see your beautiful green rig.


We couldn't wait 2-3 years to decide on a color, but....
The moral of this story is....don't be hasty.  Search the web for other PCs of the same colors you might consider.




My advise to PC-USA....
You would really do your customers a service to have good quality pics of each color available as soon as the first unit is painted for the new model year.  And not just "Mug" shots and distorted "Fish Eye" shots. Speaking from experience with selling Corvettes, picture quality, the angle, the distance from the vehicle, the lighting, all are a very big deal in capturing a potential customer.  Hire a photographer if you need to, though it is very expensivee.  If I lived near by, I'd offer to take the pictures for you.  Applying a few simple tips would make a huge difference.

Here Is A Typical A PC Mug Shot


Here Is A Typical A PC Fish Eye Shot (taken while standing too close to the rig)



What would sell a PC better?

A picture like this, taken from far away?


Or this, taken while standing way too close to the rig?


It is nearly the same amount of work to get either one.
I am not trying to be a nasty critic to PC-USA.  I am trying to give them some constructive criticism, friendly advise to help them out.  Just a little extra effort can yield great benefits.
1715  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Where I WIll Be This Fathers Day Weekend on: June 16, 2012, 11:11:19 pm
Reporting as to what happened at the event tonight.

It had been 3 years since I shown our 2350 at this event.  This evening I was very surprised how many people found the 2350 to be a perfect floorplan.  Most considered the size ideal.  Some felt the rear corner bed was too small, and given their size I could not dispute it.  I did emphasize that PC-USA offered numerous lengths & floorplans and suggested they check out the latest on-line.

Also the question of price and gas mileage came up a alot so the Sprinter was discussed often.  Again the website was suggested.

Over 50 brochures were taken, many to have the website handy at home.  It was a lot of fun to share the PC with so many of the curious, maybe one serious.  It would be great if one sale came from this.

Unfortunately I cannot take the rig tomorrow which will have twice the audience.
1716  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 16, 2012, 08:49:04 am
The older 2000 watt Tripp-Lite we have can be just as noisey with the fan turning on and off.  And the floorplan of our 2350, the LEDs on it along with the control panel like to flash which adds to the sleep interruption.  Like you, we turn the inverter off at night.  The Tripp-Lite has an on/off switch on it.  Actually it's a 3 position switch.
- off
- auto invert
- line charge only

Two of the 3 positions duplicate the control panel.  Too bad the control panel didn't include the "Off" position.  That would have been perfect.
1717  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electrical problem on: June 14, 2012, 06:06:18 pm
The weatherproof receptacle by the main entry door?

BTW:  What 2007 model do you have?
1718  Main Forum / General Discussion / Where I WIll Be This Fathers Day Weekend on: June 14, 2012, 07:07:13 am
I plan to take our PC to Dad's Fest this weekend in South Barrington, IL where hundreds of people bring their wheeled toys to display at our church for 20,000 people to inspect.  Time to bring out all those 2009 brochures again to promote the Phoenix Cruiser.  I still have hundreds of them.
http://dadfest.willowcreek.org/

If anyone wants to join me with their PC, just let me know.  I won't be able to spend much time with you, as I will be volunteering while displaying.  If you plan to display, just so you know....The first year our PC got far too much traffic inside.  The next year I roped it off so people could take that first step inside on the lower step, look from there and then move on.  I hung a sign on the rope saying they can look but not enter.  That worked out perfectly.  I have not been back with our PC since 2009 so it will be good to make another showing.  This year I plan to bring my step stool for people to peak in through the bedroom window with the screen open as well.  Maybe open the window using those red emergency handles, if I can hold the glass up safely.

It's a lot of fun, and I get a thousand questions.  Most popular are...accomodations and fuel economy.  Handing them a brochure really helps.
1719  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electrical problem on: June 14, 2012, 06:52:46 am
Eugene, I am staying tuned-in on this.  My curiosity will make sure of it.
1720  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Do you attend rallies in a PC? on: June 13, 2012, 05:57:51 pm
I plan to take our PC to Dad's Fest this weekend where hundreds of people bring their wheeled toys to display at church for 25,000 people to inspect.  Time to bring out all those 2009 brochures again to promote the Phoenix Cruiser.  I still have hundreds of them.
http://dadfest.willowcreek.org/

If anyone wants to join me with their PC, just let me know.  I won't be able to spend much time with you, as I will be volunteering while displaying.  If you plan to display, just so you know....The first year our PC got far too much traffic inside.  The next year I roped it off so people could take that first step inside on the lower step, look from there and then move on.  I hung a sign on the rope saying they can look but not enter.  That worked out perfectly.  I have not been back with our PC since 2009 so it will be good to make another showing.  This year I plan to bring my step stool for people to peak in through the bedroom window with the screen open as well.  Maybe open the window using those red emergency handles, if I can hold the glass up safely.

It's a lot of fun, and I get a thousand questions.  Most popular are...accomodations and fuel economy.  Handing them a brochure really helps.
1721  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electrical problem on: June 13, 2012, 05:44:49 pm
Your profile along the side does not indicate which year and model you have so we are very limited to how we can respond.  It would be great if you could edit your profile to show that information as you see I have to the left of my response.

We have a Tripp-Lite inverter on our 2007 2350 so I will give it a shot.

I do not believe there is any elecrical device above the heat shield you describe.  On our year & model, I can get a good look above the heat shield through the right side rear wheel well.  I examined the main battery cables that pass through there to get to the inverter to the left of the fridge.

Open the access door to the inverter (originally screwed shut at the factory) and hit the rest button on it when the unit is misbehaving.  That might do the trick for you.  If not, turn the inverter power switch to each of the 3 settings and back.

If nothing works, there is one more thing to try.  Get a small mirror and flashlight and look up from below at the control panel.  Reach up there and unplug the connector that resembles a Walkman headphone jack and observe what happens.  Do not confuse that connector with the one that resembles a telephone jack.  Unplugging the proper connector disables the auto-on-invert feature which places the control panel into a user-control mode.  In this mode you may be happier to control when the inverter is generating 110v, and just as important, when it is not to save your battery reserve power.  You could kill power to the inverter using the switch by the main entry door, but then you have also killed 12v power required to run your fridge off propane.

Click on the link below to read more about it.
http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php/topic,73.0.html
1722  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got our Baby home! on: June 12, 2012, 03:02:27 pm
Our older 2007 E350 chassis, model 2350 is another story which does not relate well in this conversation except for the wheel alignment.

BE SURE when you take your rig for a wheel alignment, you have it loaded up as if on a trip, with empty waste tanks and full fresh water tank and propane tank.  It is best to take in the rig just after a weekend get-away, leaving all your gear, cookware & clothes inside, exactly where you'd normally keep them, because the distribution of the load influences the wheel alignment.  If you really want to get picky, place weights just behind the passenger and driver seat to simulate you and your spouse up front.  I threw my 140 pound weight set and tow bar hardware there to get it closer than if doing nothing.

About Koni FSD shocks for the E-series.  I read on www.rv.net that someone retro-fitted his E450 motor home with Koni-FSDs by changing the end bushings.  I don't know which FSD part numbers he used.  I wonder how well that worked out for him long term.
1723  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: running board lights on: June 07, 2012, 05:48:02 pm
There are some PC-USA added in-line fuses located behind the kick panel by the parking brake pedal.  Pop-off that panel and check the fuses there.
1724  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: running board lights on: June 05, 2012, 09:06:52 am
My rig is 5 years old so what I share may not apply today to a 2012.  My recollection is poor but I think.....

If you turn on the interior cab lights with the instrument panel dimmer switch, the running board lights will stay on, either for a long time or indefinitely.  It won't solve your problem, but at least you can check the running lights for basic opperation.  Something to help with troubleshooting.

I had thought something was wrong with our rig's running lights until I realized this.  We turned on the interior cab lights with the instument panel dimmer switch, then turned them off individually at the light fixture, much later noting the running board lights were on for no apparent reason.
1725  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: AC / Fan question on: June 03, 2012, 04:08:25 pm
Ron - Hmmm, something I hadn't thought of with a PC - completely ductless you say?  I am indeed curious then, particularly from those w/ 3100's, how the rooftop unit works cooling the rear of the coach (bathroom?!).
 The only ducts we have in our 5 year old 2350 are near the floor, dedicated to the furnace for heat.  One heat duct facilitates the bathroom nicely....more than nicely.  I was thinking of replacing that round heat register with an adjustable one so not to pump so much heat into the bathroom.

In hot weather with the a/c running and the bath door closed, it gets hot in the bathroom.  When parked we leave the bath door open a little which works okay.  While on the move we keep the bath door latched closed for obvious reasons.  It is only then that it gets warm in there.  With exception to the bathroom, our short rig would not benefit from a ducted system unless ducted = quiet.

I would assume all PCs made since 2004 share a similar story, but I could be wrong.  Maybe PC-USA does something special for the largest rigs.  I can only speak for my shorter 5 year old model 2350.
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