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1771  Main Forum / General Discussion / Newer Ford Center Console For 2007-2008 on: March 08, 2011, 10:09:39 am
Looking at the new 2009-2011 Ford chassis interiors on PhoenixUSA's website, I really like the improvements Ford made with the center console cup-holder & storage.  My 2007 has the older design with 4 cup holders but no top trays.  The newer design has 2 cup holders and very nice top trays and also has an extra side bin by the passenger.  I'd really want that new console for my 2007, but I first need some questions answered.

1) Are the two center console designs interchangeable?  I think they are.
2) Is the main tan color of the newer Ford design, the same as the older 2007-2008 design?  I think it is.
3) If #1 and #2 are "YES" will PhoenixUSA sell me a cherry finish center console?  I hope so.

I emailed the factory and am waiting for their reply.

For you with a Ford chassis older than a 2007, you have the dark gray console, right?  You can buy dark gray with black top tray areas for around $50 on ebay.  They are new take-offs.

Here is my older 2007 design.

Here is the newer 2009-2011 design.
1772  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Nova Scotia on: March 07, 2011, 05:39:01 am
My brother and his wife ferried through lower Alaska with their 21 foot Starflyte.  They had a rear hitch rack.  The rack came off to save big by-the-foot money.

Another problem they were faced with regularly was the difference in height between the pier and the ferry.  Pending tidal conditions, the angle of approach had them scraping the rear of the motor home, doing damage to things more than once.  You might want to invest in those rear end protecting wheel thingies to prevent damage to things like your mascerator pump.
1773  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water Accumulator Tank on: March 07, 2011, 05:28:06 am
Email me direct at and I will send you the details and pictures of the "cheap" one I installed in my 2007 2350.  It works extremely well.

I understand there is a new type of pump that goes on and stays on while water is running, then shuts off when water is not.  It seems another good choice.  A couple PC owners have them.  Hopefully they will comment.

Regardless of which pump, most of the noise is related to "Direct Hook-Up Plumbing".  Having a flex-line between the pump and the RV plumbing significantly dampens the vibration sound, making the pump action very quiet.  The most common flex lines are the stainless steel braided type used to hook up house toilets and sinks.

Here are a some pictures of what I had done in 2007, working perfect to this very day.

Though nothing has ever been trouble with my $20 tank and installation, I kind-of wished I spent the money on an accumulator with feet for a cleaner installation.
1774  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Monitor Extension on: March 06, 2011, 10:52:12 am
For Reference
1775  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Reserving camp sites on: March 06, 2011, 05:46:21 am
In the 33 years we've camped, we have reserved only once when we traveled with others to assure we can camp together at Rocky Mountain National Park.  We do reserve for weekends at local state parks for family reunions too.

Our normal vacationing style without reservations usually has us staying in primitive camp grounds, but always accepted for the care-free style we enjoy.  And to be honest, we enjoy the primitive camp grounds better.  They offer nicer sites with space in between, are more heavily forested, and often offer camp-side streams, rivers, or grand views.  Oh, and they are much cheaper too.  Here is an example at a cheap BLM site on the Colorado River in a desert region in SE Utah.

With the PC, primitive camping works much better for us than our old motorhome did as it was not self contained.
1776  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electric sofa/bed question on: March 06, 2011, 05:36:10 am
I wonder if either sofa bed would fit through the entry door.
1777  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: RV Covers on: March 04, 2011, 02:31:05 pm
Have either of you looked into indoor storage?  I am sure it's costly, but if it's only for a portion of the year, it may be worth the expense to protect your investment.

We keep our 2007 indoors when not traveling, and it really does still look brand new.  Even the roof caulk stays clean and soft.
1778  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof cracks on: March 04, 2011, 02:27:27 pm
Well stated!
1779  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof cracks on: March 04, 2011, 12:53:58 pm

If the roof is in-fact sagging, you are right to contact the factory.  See what  they say.  The phone number is on their website.  Don't call Stuart's number, but the other one posted I think is the number 574-266-2020 and ask to speak with Kermit.

One bit of with Kermit, not against him.  There is a PC owner (Tom & Betsy on SmugMug)  who was a real son of a gun with Kermit to the point Kermit couldn't communicate with the fellow.  That fellow Tom wouldn't give Kermit a change to help, instead put together a Phoenix bashing website and all.  He burned himself instead of getting help.  That was not smart at all.

Just me thinking here, I would expect Kermit to tell you to take your PC to your local RV fix-it shop for an inspection on what happened, then go from there.  In the mean time to protect your rig until then, I would get ductape or something removable to temporarily seal it.
1780  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof cracks on: March 04, 2011, 06:24:24 am
I would say that is definitely a problem.  It appears the factory failed to apply enough caulk at the seam there.  Being that you own a 2011 model year, it would be covered under warranty, and you should be able to take the RV to your local RV repair center and get refunded for the expense.  But call the factory first after you email them your pictures.

I myself would email the pictures to the factory and ask for a tube of that exact same caulk, clean the area real good with laquer thinner and apply the right amount myself.  Done quicker than taking it in, and done right too.  Plus you'd have more caulk for later after the warranty, and also knowing what caulk to get later if it gets too old to use.
1781  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Newbie: And I'd like some advice (Thanks in advance!!) on: March 01, 2011, 11:37:07 pm
But to get a PC with a queen size bed you can walk around means at least a 29 footer, right?   Or are there other options we need to look for?
Hi GordonH,  If you are very good at floorplan design, I advise you sketch something up, a short motorhome with a walk-around queen bed, present it to Kermit Fisher (the fellow who owns Phoenix USA) and see if they can make you something special.  They have done that before, just recently, creating model 2552 for someone at a cost premium over the standard 2551 of $3000.  The factory is more creative during the November/December time of year as that is their slowest time in filling orders.

I do think the shortest walk-around queen bed offered today is 29'-8".

I've wondered if they could make a short rear queen bed model, starting with a 2700, delete the rear slide, and place a queen bed in the space of the double bed.  Yes the one person would have to climb over the other like is done in the 2350, but at least offering a huge open area to easily manuver in.  That takes off 2'-7" in over-all length, getting it down to 27'-1" long.

Model 2700
1782  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water Drain valves on 2350 on: March 01, 2011, 01:09:38 pm

If nobody gives you the answer you are looking for with your model 3100, try this.  If you are nimble enough to crawl under your rig, look for a pair of rubber or plastic drain tubes that come out from the floor and hang down maybe 6" or so.  That would help you figure out where the drain valves, are as the tubes hang directly below the valves inside.

Don't confuse the pair with the single tube that drains the fresh water tank.
1783  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: March 01, 2011, 11:35:22 am
Hi GordonH, Welcome to the PC forum,

Gradygal makes a very good point regarding your selection of floorplan.  As is easily understood, there are trade-offs with each model/floorplan.  I see you input a 2100 model in your profile, assuming that means you are leaning toward that one for starters.

We special ordered a new 2350 in 2007 seen by CLICKING HERE.  My wife and I both agree, the double bed is not ideal for getting in and out from.  A walk-around double or queen bed would be ideal but then it wouldn't fit in our garage.  For us, sleeping in separate beds is not an option, but others have different priorities, which is why the easy access twin bed floor plans are most popular.

If the length of the motor home didn't trouble me, I'd have the factory make something special for us......a no-slide rear walk-around queen bed.  I don't think that special request would cost much extra.  The factory is very good at accomodating special requests, especially if it does not greatly affect plumbing and other primary essentials.
1784  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Finding digital tv signals over-the-air on: February 26, 2011, 03:14:48 pm
Yes, it's the wingman--feeble mind couldn't recall the name so I fudged.
Thanks for the clarity!
1785  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Finding digital tv signals over-the-air on: February 26, 2011, 02:55:10 pm
The digital addition to the antenna on my current PC and on my previous 2007 2700 PC did make a significant difference.
Could you clarify what you mean by "digital addition"?  Are you referring to the add-on Wingman?

We bought our 2007 2350 with Winegard antenna and signal booster during the time of analog, but no TV's.  I installed digital TV's later.  I bought a Wingman but have not yet installed it.  I will before our first excursion this year.
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