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1801  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Upgrades on: June 23, 2010, 12:37:44 pm
If you search my name on rv.net and also on this forum in the tips and tricks section, I talk a lot about this subject matter.

You did everything right, but not everything complete.  You complain of the floaties which requires continuous steering compensation.  You need to get a front wheel alignment and a heavy duty front steering stabilizer.  The brand we upgraded to is a Safe-T-Plus, but there are other good brands available.

Here is what we had done to our 2007 Ford E350 chassis with a PC-2350 on it's back.  The motor home had only 800 miles on it at the time.
- rear heavy duty Roadmaster sway bar (the 2007 Ford E350 chassis had none to begin with)
- front heavy duty Roadmaster sway bar (the stock Ford bar is very thin and ineffective for the application)
- Koni-RV adjustable shocks set to the stiffest setting
- rear Hendersen trac bar (eliminates side-to-side horizontal tail wagging, especially beneficial when towing)
- heavy duty Safe-T-Plus steering stabilizer
- front wheel alignment
Cost $3900 and was definitely worth the expense.

Our 2007 2350 handles like a dream.  No more rocking, swaying, unintended lane changes, or excessive steering compensation.  I hold the wheel steady with a light touch and the RV stays put.  Even under abnormal conditions, the RV handles well.  I can even hold a cup of coffee steady, until I have finished drinking it.  The safety factor is huge and means so much to me.  Driving went from being a chore to a pleasure.  No more premature driver fatique.  The quality of ride to the passengers is an additional benefit.  My wife will sit at the dinette and her refreshment will stay on the table.  Her coffee doesn't slosh out from her cup either.  Keep in mind, this is all while towing a vehicle.

If you think another brand of motor home would avoid this expense, it just becomes amplified as the motor home gets bigger.  The bigger they are, the worse the problem.  That is why people say the Phoenix Cruiser is better.  Smaller is better, but still not right.  It depends on where you are coming from, which would explain why the article written mentioned how good it handled.

I mentioned this a few times to Kermt.  Phoenix USA should offer a "Handling Package" as an option or upgrade.  They could easily install these upgrades at the factory and make some money from it too.  The exception would be the front wheel alignment.  That needs to be done with the RV complete and loaded.  Just imagine people in RV forums saying things like "WOW, this thing handles great with that handling package option".  One more reason to order a PC.
1802  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Historic Route 66 on: June 22, 2010, 08:08:10 am
We spent a night in Kingman AZ, returning home to IL from Las Vegas in a Corvette we bought there.  Very nice town that preserved Route 66.
1803  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 15, 2010, 09:41:14 am
Have you considered investing in a small version of this?  Given high humidity conditions in Florida, I would leave the ends open to allow air to circulate freely.  It would keep rain and sun off except wind-driven rain and early & late day sun, pending position.  It's not pretty though.


Of coarse the cheapest is a simple tarp wrapping the RV, but I would be concerned of introducing a mold problem.  Still I would give a tarp a try.
1804  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 12, 2010, 10:13:11 pm
I find it quite interesting that many of us PC owners store them indoors.  If you are like me, my PC was selected because of it's small size, specifically to fit in my garage.  I learned quickly afterwards, it is a really well built RV.
1805  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 12, 2010, 12:27:09 pm
Hi Mary,

I have a new 2551 that we picked up in April.  I just went out to the garage and measured the height.  It measures 9'-11.5" to the top of the AC, the AC is 11" tall.  I am surprised that it is lower than the spec height of 10'-1"
Maybe your 2551 is 10'-1" if you had it empty, no gear, no water, just a couple gallons of gas in the tank, and then with the max tire pressure of 85psi.  Kind-of-a worst case condition.  Who really knows.

I always store ours in the garage with a full tank of gas & gear, but no water, and 65/70 psi in the tires.
1806  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I want to hear from you! on: June 11, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
Hi aimee,

I don't know if this request is too late, but it would be nice if when you submit a reply, the screen takes you to the post you replied in rather than the category of posts you replied in.  Does my request make sense?
1807  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 11, 2010, 04:25:02 pm
Mary,

10'-1" to the top of your a/c until means the satelite dish would have to exceed that by 10" to potentailly hit the door jamb.

Keep in-mind that an 11 foot door means the finished door opening is some amount less.  My 10' tall door has a 9'-11.5" opening.  I had a plan if my a/c unit made contact, I would remove the 3/4" thick x 1.5" finish trim board, to gain an additional 3/4".  If that was not enough, I would shave the main door jamb a little.  Both mods only where the a/c needed it, not across the entire top edge.  A last resort would have been to let air out of the tires to lower the RV.  Thank goodness mine is true to PC specs at 9'-10" so there were no issues at all.

In your case, since you are starting fresh, make sure the "finished" door opening height is what you need, considering the finish trim/perimeter weather stripping.

In theory you could have a door opening taller than the door itself buy tacking on a nice looking extender filler piece between the bottom of the garage door and weather strip, done to close any gap up top, though that is certianly not ideal.  Don't start with that thinking.  Do that only if you get into trouble.  It is surely better to get a door tall enough to cover the taller opening.

Something to think about in your planning.

How deep is your garage?  If you are tight there, you may want to consider doing what we did, order our PC-2350 without the rear ladder and roof rack mounted.  The ladder sticks out farther than the rear spare tire cover.  If we had the ladder on, I would not be able to walk around the RV without opening the garage door to do so.  I personally don't like the ladder and rack so I asked the factory to place it in the RV in case I change my mind.  It sits in my attic taking up space.  No regret there at all.  I didn't want all those screw holes in my roof and rear wall either, just to attach a ladder I would never climb.  And I open my rear storage compartment without messing with the ladder too.  When it's time to clean the roof, I take my 10' ladder out from the garage, which is once a year at most.

Something else to think about.

Ladder and roof rack "free".

1808  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 11, 2010, 03:01:55 pm
I don't know how high it is, but "SMART MOVE" on the garage idea.  We keep ours indoors when at home.  Boy it sure is nice to have that investment well protected from the elements.

If I were building a new garage from scratch, I'd go significantly bigger than the PC requires.  You never know what your future holds.  Even if you keep the PC but sell the house, what a selling point to prospective buyers....a garage for their 40 footer, big boat, whatever.

So Think Bigger if applicable!

Our garage was built bigger than our first tiny little motor home required, so our 2350 squeezes in by only 1.5" to the top of the garage door opening, and 16" over-all length.  It is a tight fit, though side-to-side is generous, thank goodness there.  There is a low hanging sofit in the ceiling of the garage to enclose an I-beam that was lower than the door opening buy a few inches.  I tore it down and boxed it as small as possible so now I can jack the tires up off the floor if need be.  Be sure to consider that in your garage mods if applicable....the ability to jack up front or rear without crushing something up top.

Ours in the garage seen in the background.
1809  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Norcold Fridge Cycling Codes Problem on: June 07, 2010, 01:49:53 am
That is very good to know.  You would think resetting the fridge computer would be covered in the owners manual.  I wonder if pulling the fridge fuse for 10 minutes would accomplish the same.  That is the poor man's way of resetting the engine's computer on many cars.
1810  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Backup Camera Problem on: June 07, 2010, 01:38:26 am
No sound on my 2010 PC 2350. I asked Bobby at the factory and he checked with Carol who said that the new Sony's do not have sound.
No Sound???  That is too bad.

Our 2007 has sound.  We use it all the time when backing up.  My wife stands behind providing verbal directions for me to avoid obstacles, especially the things I can't see in the mirrors like low hanging tree branches and the distance to those steaked-down big log tire stops in national park camp grounds.  I'd rip off the mascerator pump hitting one of them. 

Sound is also great when pulling in after quiet hour.  My wife can talk normal, and I hear her clear as a bell with the volume up.  We don't wake up the neighborhood that way.

 
1811  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The New Triple Slide on: June 06, 2010, 11:01:09 am


I will be a critic here because obviously this model is wonderful at a glance.

If the dinette slide-out is bigger than the ones they used to make, then that is a very good thing.  If not, then plan on it being very confining.  My wife is 5'-2" @ 110 and me 5'-11" @ 180 pounds, and the dinette-in-slide was very confining to both of us.  Studying the floorplan, it is not clear if the slide-out dinette is big like our non-slide version here.


I do wonder about Cargo Carrying Capacity, referred to as CCC.  That is the weight you are allowed to add such as fresh water, people, gear, food, towing, etc.  On RV.net, some of the other brand motor homes, people are saying they easily over-weight their rig when adding normal stuff, which then their rig is dangerous to drive.

It would be benefitial to PC-USA over-all sales if they would include in the specs of all models, a worst case "weight scenario".  That is the CCC of a fully optioned model, and the front & rear axle weight distribution.  That would clear the air to many prospective buyers.  People will not always study such specs, but clearly posting them is evident nothing is kept secret.  In the case of the 2910, CCC would be a concern of mine.  Slide-outs do add weight, 400-600 pounds per slide-out.  One slide-out is equivalent to 2 people and all supporting stuff brought for them.

If you appreciate slide-outs, this model offers one more than most other class-C motorhomes of any brand.  Then how could you not love this model?  I especially appreciate a couch opposide the dinette.  It forms a very nice social gatthering area when entertaining guests.  It is a friendly rig to drive because it is your typical scaled-down PC, yet becomes a house once at your destination.  I could see snow birds eating this up.
1812  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Electric water heater on: June 05, 2010, 03:31:06 am
Reviewing and adding.....

Hot water heaters opperate 2 or 3 different ways, depending on the model of the hot water heater.

1) 110V from shore power or generator (may also use 12v for electronic support)

2) propane to heat the water and 12v for electronic support

3) from the main vehicle engine, anti-freeze running through the hot water heater

We special ordered a 2007-2350.  The 2007 brochure stated a 3-way hot water heater, but we got a 2-way.  I never did question that, though I should have.  Now years later, I am glad I have a 2-way hot water heater for mechanical simplicity.  Having heater hoses from the V10 engine running back there would be a plumbing mess.

On our trips, we rarely have shore power and minimally run the generator, so we don't have hot water available all the time.  We usually heat the water with propane, sometimes when driving.  So far no issues from the heater's exhaust.
1813  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Norcold Fridge Cycling Codes Problem on: June 03, 2010, 11:14:13 pm
That is too bad.  Let us know what you find out.
1814  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Backup Camera Problem on: June 02, 2010, 11:26:49 am
Oh, I assumed you just took delivery on a new one.  I am not reading your initial post close enough, duh to me.
1815  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Norcold Fridge Cycling Codes Problem on: June 02, 2010, 11:25:24 am
I bet the opperating manual covers this condition, and what to do about it.  Read through it.  If you don't have the manual, let me know.  I have a 2007, I think it too has a Norcold.  When I get some time, I could look through mine for you.
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