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1801  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 with Ford V10... What can I expect for MPG (no Tow) on: April 12, 2012, 02:16:41 pm
Hi Denny, Welcome to the PC family.

I agree with Barry-Sue on both accounts.

We own a 2007 2350 with no slide out.

The Ford chassis has the same engine, transmission, and drivetrain since 2005 or 2006.  The 2012 Ford chassis might weigh a few pounds more than pre-2008s but not influential.

The PC motor home portion has not changed either except slide out versus no slide out, around a 350 pound difference, again not influential.

Our fuel economy aligns with Barry-Sue's.

We tow a 4300 pound Jeep Liberty 4x4 100% of the time.
We cruise at 5mph over posted speed limit with towing restrictions, but limit top speed to 70mph.
Our 3 week trip from the Chicago area to the farthest point being Jasper Alberta was just under 4000 miles where we averaged 9.2mpg.
We plan to slow down to improve our mpg.  I would really like to hit the 10 mpg mark on vacations.
We averaged 10.2 mpg not towing, taking a load full of family to a wedding 350 miles away.

It seems best fuel economy is achieved by limiting top speed to 60 mph.  But that is hard to do with such a strong engine.  The temptation is to go faster becasue the engine does not strain to do it.  But it shows up in the mpg calculations.
1802  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Tank Heater Switch Mod on: April 10, 2012, 05:52:14 pm
Oh, I Like this mod.  ThumbsUp   But in my case, I never use the tank heater so the word "NO" would stay.

And here's a helpful rating for you.
1803  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Floor Repair on: April 10, 2012, 07:56:20 am
I marked it helpful too.  Thanks Barry-Sue
1804  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Some really basic questions on: April 10, 2012, 07:51:27 am
For our drinking water, we use something like this.
1805  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Helpful Rating Abuse on: April 09, 2012, 06:05:58 pm
I too Thank You Aimee for all you do here to keep us kids well behaved, and a whole lot more.

BTW:  Those 2012 specs sheets for each model are looking great!
1806  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: April 07, 2012, 07:44:03 pm
The Ebay bidding or Buy-It-Now process is not always the means.  Often the auction ends and there is no buyer, whether nobody bid, or a reserve was not met.  Afterwards, you can contact the seller and discuss it between just the two of you as you would on RVtrader, craigslist, etc.
1807  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: April 07, 2012, 09:33:16 am
Ebay has them pop up on occasion, and ebay has an auto-notifier too.
1808  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New layout for specs on: April 06, 2012, 04:39:49 pm
Aimee,

It is a little late in the game to mention this, but this is important to me so I would assume it would be important to prospective buyers.

In all Specs for all models on the left column, you mention "4-Wheel ABS Brakes".  That is good.  But it would be better to mention "4-Wheel ABS Disk Brakes".  The word "Disk" is something worth noting.  Anyone with an older motor home will have rear "drum" brakes.  They may not realize the E350/E450 and Sprinters have disk brakes all around.  Given that disk brakes are better brakes, that is a good thing to point out.
1809  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: April 06, 2012, 01:58:08 pm
2006 Jeep Liberty
2006 Jeep Liberty For Us Too.
1810  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Washington DC on: April 06, 2012, 11:53:03 am
I should have included that we spent 4 full days there and left feeling we missed out on a lot.  That much time with little kids can get testy, but if everyone is an adult and really into it, you could easily spend a week.  I regret not taking the tour of the mint.
1811  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Washington DC on: April 05, 2012, 10:46:52 pm
We toured DC in 2003 for multiple days.  We tried first with a vehicle, then quickly learned that public transportation is the only method that works, and it works great.  Be sure to buy the all day or multi-day pass, whatever they offer.

Stay outside in a camp ground and train in & out daily.  They restrict street parking in the main areas to avoid another Oklahoma City bombing style attack.

Wear good walking shoes and use the subway a lot to quickly jump between areas of the plaza, great for short hops with the subway pass.  We went to the zoo for an afternoon to see the Pandas in their new habitat at the time.  We also jumped over to Arlington Cemetary...very easy.

With a vehicle, we spent way too much time & effort, and money on parking and it was a nightmare trying to drive to different areas.  We even got a parking ticket becasue we were 4 minutes past 4:00pm.  They need the streets clear for rush hour.  Just don't take any vehicle, even a small motor cycle is bad news.  Bicycles would be different.
1812  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: April 05, 2012, 10:35:09 am
JimWert and Paul/Marilyn,

Just make sure if you special order any model, first ping current owners.  Some of us wished we made small special requests that can only be considered during the construction of the unit.  Once built, it's too late.  None are detrimental......just striving for perfection that is unique to each owner.

The factory is "Extremely" good about special requests that do not require re-engineering, without gouging you on the price.  I am often surprised that even when some re-engineering is involved, they don't "stiff you", most often done at cost.  They are really great to work with.....this cannot be emphasised enough.
1813  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Towed vehicle - question on: April 04, 2012, 08:32:37 pm
With my first tow vehicle, a small car, the tow bar was perfectly horizontal.  It had no bucking.

With my Jeep Liberty, the tow bar is at a significant angle upward to the Jeep where a decent amount of bucking has been present.

I bought a hitch adaptor and longer 76" safety cables.  With everything hooked up, the bar is level again.  I have yet to take a trip, but I am ready now.  I hope the bucking will be gone.

Sorry for the huge pictures.  I wish there was a feature to adjust their size.


1814  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New layout for specs on: April 04, 2012, 08:23:34 pm
Perfect Timing Aimee!

I just directed someone to your efforts, one who is considering a class "B".  I suggested he give a 2100 consideration.
1815  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Selling your 2350 with dinette? Want to buy used. on: March 30, 2012, 12:33:23 pm
We tend to put very little hours on our generator, primarily using it to run the microwave and A/C when we stop to eat lunch at a roadside park or rest stop.  We hate RV parks that are what I call parking lots with hookups.....
We feel the same about most RV parks, and they are quite costly as well.  We like to search out more primitive & isolated camp ground facilities, mainly for the atmosphere with cost per night right behind that.  If those places happen to have electric or better, then that is a " Cheer".  Even when primitive camping, we limit generator run times.  I setup my secondary 40 amp battery charger to boost the main batteries, setup cell phones and camera battery chargers, everything that would benefit from a running generator, so when the genny is turned on lot's of things are happening all at once.

We don't like to run the generator because of the noise, worse inside the motor home than when outside.  It feels like we are on the open road again instead of getting that peace and quiet time that we are seeking out in the first place.
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