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1816  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 on: January 07, 2012, 11:23:10 pm
Another suggestion - Don't limit yourself with the existing floor plans.  Phoenix Cruiser is very willing to work with the customer to give them what they want.  Check out what  George and Judi designed for themselves,434.0.html

.......everyone is different, everyones needs are different and you need to consider what is going to work best for you.
Barry-Sue, I agree completely with your statements.  What works fine for one couple, can be disasterous for another couple.

I really like gradygal's dinette no-slide alternative which is ideal for two people.  As much as we appreciate the bench storage, the single bed, and seating for four with our booth dinette, it sure can be quite uncomfortable after a while.  I have to get up every half hour or so to get my self straightened out.  More dense foam with angled backs would make a huge improvement.
1817  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Banks system on: January 06, 2012, 05:50:37 pm
Yes Jerry, I agree.  I should have also mentioned there is plenty of power anyway when towing our Jeep.

I had also considered the improved fuel economy the Banks claimed but could not justify it.
1818  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Magnetic Mount Paper Towel holder on: January 06, 2012, 05:47:53 pm
I hope you all will be disciplined to remove the towels before lighting up the cook top.  For me and my household, that would spell disaster.
1819  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Magnetic Mount Paper Towel holder on: January 06, 2012, 04:33:28 pm
I thought all PC microwave ovens hang over the stove top.  Paper towels hung over the stove top is concerning.
1820  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Banks system on: January 06, 2012, 04:11:47 pm
I looked into a Banks sytem but decided against it as the cost ran high and a bit too evasive for my comfort.
1821  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 on: January 06, 2012, 02:41:33 pm
I cannot comment on some points, but can on others given my older 2350 and the 2552, both without a slideout, will have some common features.

I think the 2552 comes with a free-standing euro chair placed behind the passenger seat.  Am I right?

If so, you can request a 3rd captain seat, identical to the ones used up front.  The only real advantage is that the seat is bolted to the floor and has seat belts, safe for a 3rd person to travel in.  Here are some pictures of my wife modeling our 3rd captain seat in our NO-slide with dinette 2350.

As Tom mentioned, slide outs are extremely popular, so I won't get into why we are very happy with our decision in not getting the slideout in our 2350.  I will say that back in 2007 when we bought ours, the slideout was much smaller which I could not see enough benefit unless you needed the couch with fold-out queen bed to sleep 2 more people.

In recent years the fridge has been included in the slideout which makes the interior much more roomier than it used to.  And in the 2552 you get a pull-out pantry next to the fridge when you get the couch, which is a very nice extra feature as shown here.

Looking at the floorplan of the 2552 with dinette in a slide-out, you give up the pantry to maintain good leg room and large table.  I would assume then a dinette without a slide-out would re-introduce a pantry when you consider the dinette is then moved farther forward about a foot closer to the driver like we have as shown here.  You further gain wall space by deleting the slide-out walls & related wood trim.  Maybe the pantry gets near 2 feet wide.

I wonder if all other models with the dinette booth in a slide-out would be cramped as shown here in this older model that does not include the fridge.

For comparison, this is our NO Slide-out dinette.  It also demonstrates how one can sit anywhere on the front facing booth and watch TV when traveling as well as when parked.  One of us will lean against the outside wall with a pillow to get comfortable while the other takes the captain seat.

It would be interesting to see some dinette booth pics and dimensions in the larger slide-out in the 2350, 2551, and 2552
1822  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: So I Need New Pics for the Home Page on: January 05, 2012, 04:04:52 pm
I would love to see that one gradygal.

Aimee, I sent you one from last summer's trip.  Crop out what you don't like.
1823  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 6V batteries on: January 05, 2012, 11:47:20 am
Deena,  If you plan to special order a new PC, the factory may be able to accomodate your request.  The tray and space for it can hold only two batteries.  The other two would need to be mounted elsewhere.  Another thought would be to place all 4 batteries together elsewhere and use the existing tray space for something else.  Keep in-mind that batteries need ventilation, even sealed batteries.  So putting them under a bed might be of concern of gas buildup.
1824  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: January 05, 2012, 11:32:15 am
With rear seats folded down, we can pile the back full of stuff that wont fit in the PC (grill, etc.) and the five dark rear windows hide it all.
Just as you say, we too with darkened glass rear of the driver, quickly learned to take advantage of our tow vehicle in other ways.  Last vacation, we decided to bring our golf clubs with carts.  I also bolted up a 3500 pound hitch to secure a bike rack, so the bikes came along as shown.  That worked out extremely well.

1825  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 30 Amp vs. 50 Amp hookups on: January 03, 2012, 01:28:07 pm
.....two 25amp 110V breakers ganged together will provide one 25amp 220V outlet, not 50amp.
Please Bob, Don't applogize.  Correct me when I got my story wrong.  I am no authority on this stuff.  I thought 25a/110v + 25a/110v = 50a/220v.  But you say it goes 25a/110v + 25a/110v = 25a/220v.

I will have to study what I have in my main breaker box more closely.  I thought I had two 25 amp breakers.  Maybe I got it mixed up as to what I have in the house.  I do recall the fellow who initially wired my garage had a different style 220v receptacle in there, later switched to this style to accomodate the RV adaptor.  Do the different style receptacles have different power ratings?
1826  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 30 Amp vs. 50 Amp hookups on: January 03, 2012, 10:20:13 am
I have a 50amp/220V outlet in my garage at home.  When I plug in at home, I use the adapter shown below.  It utilizes only one of the two 220v hot wires.  Given my 50amp circuit in the garage works off two 25amp circuit breakers in the house, it is easy to concluded that it provides 25amp service to my PC.

I think you would need 60amp/220v service at the peg to get 110v/30amp service from such an adaptor.  But RV parks don't offer that.

If you can't get enough power to run two electric space heaters along with the rest of your PC, I advise to buy a typical 110v 12gauge 25 or 50 foot extension cord and run it from the power peg (20amp) through one of the van doors to supply independant power to your strongest electric heater.  Just be sure the door doesn't pinch the cord.  You might have to place a tiny 1/2" thick piece of soft pine in the door jamb (low corner opposite the hinges) to maintain a 1/2" gap.  The cord should be easily push and/or pulled through the door gasket.

A 25 foot 12 gauge extension cord like this can be purchased at any home improvement center.

1827  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Weight sticker? on: December 30, 2011, 03:16:19 pm
On my 2007, I have two stickers.  One is found when opening the driver door.  The other is on the inside of the lower kitchen cabinet door, I think the one under the stove top.
1828  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Toads or tow vehicles? What brand do you use? on: December 30, 2011, 07:02:51 am
We used to tow a tiny little red 2-seater convertible, a 2000 Toyota MR2 Spyder.  That was a lot of fun for sight-seeing.  It was small and light weight which made it a very easy tow vehicle.  Unfortunately we found ourselves doing things with that car that it was not designed for.  The last trip with it, we drove down in and out of dry rocky river beds to get to a trail head, and drove a very rough 40 miles sight-seeing dirt road, both which were naturally hard on the car.  Our adventures got us thinking a 4x4 would be a much smarter tow vehicle.  Since my wife's daily driver was in-need of replacement, she got to pick the easy-tow 4x4.  She loved the styling of the 1st generation Liberty, and the rest is history with that one.  I ended up selling the 2000 MR2 and bought a 2003 A/E Corvette convertible for my around-town fun car.

The 2000 Toyota MR2 Spyer

The 2006 Jeep Liberty 4x4
1829  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Boss multi-media player on: December 30, 2011, 06:35:21 am
About the subwoofer.

I assume the one in my 2007 model year, is basically the same as the one in a 2012.  That thing is big, but not big by subwoofer enclosure standards.  And it's power rating is not much either.  I have a very conservative subwoofer.

Given we have a no-slideout dinette 2350, I had the factory mount the subwoofer under the front-most dinette bench.  That worked out real well.  I like the sub, but it would bother me to have it in my main outdoor storage compartment where space is a premium.  It also made sense to place the sub as far from the bed as possible.
1830  Main Forum / Polls / Re: Outside Entertainment Center? on: December 29, 2011, 08:27:32 pm
My wife and I don't hang around enough outside under the awning to miss having any form of entertainment system.  There is an outdoor outlet to the left of the entry door, making it easy enough to plug in a boom box of sorts.

If you decide to have a PC made for yourself, the factory may be able to do something special just for you.  It does seem feasible to have an outdoor access panel next to a passenger side dinette to get outdoor access to the bench storage.  PCUSA could finish it off easily enough to have a special place for an outdoor sound system.
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