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1846  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Drawer glides in drawers under bed in 2006 PC 2551 on: October 07, 2010, 02:31:46 pm
I am not familiar with the 2006 2551 bed drawers.  But I can say with confidence, places like Menards and Home Depot sell those high quality ball bearing roller glides for drawers.  Maybe you can swap the cheap drawer rollers with those high quality ones.  At Menards, I recall them being real cheap, like $10-$12 a pair, with little price variation pending length.

BTW:  We got back from a 3 week trip in the Canadian Rockies about 5 weeks ago.  What a place to visit!
1847  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 07, 2010, 02:25:58 pm
In regards to the "Mirror" subect, I am a bit taken back how it has become a hot point of discussion.  I never gave my longer-extending mirrors a second thought for clearence to anything, except a time or two in very tight parking areas, I asked my wife to roll down her window and pull her mirror in, just for extra assurance.  But I couldn't say that would justify getting shorter mirror arms.

In tight parking areas after we are parked, as a rule we fold the mirrors in for fear of someone bumping into them when walking by, or worse yet, having a child grab on and swing from one.  I suppose that could be a good reason to consider shorter arms.

When pulling inside my garage, I pull in both mirrors or they would automatically fold in with much less grace when rubbing against the garage door frame.  But that would still happen with shorter mirror arms.

My brother owns a Starflyte on a 1998 Ford E350.  His rig is much narrower than any Phoenix Cruiser.  His rig too has Velvac mirrors, but with the shorter arms.  One thing I noticed when showing him how they fold in....the arms are so short, they required a lot of muscle to pull them in.  Maybe that comes with vehicle age as well as less leverage.

I find it quite interesting to read here that Phoenix USA is now installing shorter arms on all their 2011s.
1848  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 07, 2010, 11:23:27 am
We have a 2350 and we needed another seat for our baby granddaughter.  Stewart suggested replacing the barrel chair with another Ford swivel/reclining Captains seat locking in the forward position.  It works great and can swivel and recline to any position. Much more comfortable than the barrel chair.  They also added forward and aft tie downs for the seat anchored to the frame.
Bob, This is valuable information to me.  I did measure & compare the size and area of my captain and barrel chairs.  There did seem to be enough room for a 3rd captain chair in the barrel position.  I priced a new chair from the PC-USA 2007 seat supplier, Pauls Seating.  My 2007 model is called a Lexus.  With both arm rests, Paul's price is $375.  With no armrests, it's $365.  I'd get both armrests unless there is a clearence problem.  Watching TV, reading, or simply relaxing in that chair in-place of the barrel chair would be so so so much better.  For me with the fixed dinette, I can use the adjacent dinette bench to rest my legs.

Could you elaborate on the forward/aft tie-downs?  I would greatly appreciate pictures of your 3rd captain chair, it's pedistal, tie-downs, etc.  I would hate to order a 3rd chair from Paul's Seating, just to find out there is a problem.  I wonder if I'll need a special pedistal for it, rather than re-use my barrel pedistal.
1849  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: RV to Car Battery Charger on: October 06, 2010, 11:44:26 pm
Our secondary braking system has 6 wires from the motor home to the tow vehicle.  One of them is an extra hot wire to the secondary braking system in the tow vehicle, therefore leaving the tow vehicle battery alone.

If your tow vehicle's electrical cable has only 4 wires as most do, you can utilize the RV ignition switched hot wire from the RV connector.  Utilizing power from the RV would require you to either replace your 4 wire cable with a 6 wire, or add a second cable.  Either way, you'll be running the hot wire from the RV to the secondary braking system.  All the wiring modifications are on the cable and tow vehicle, no modifications to the RV wiring because it's right there in back in that big 7 wire round connector.

I just been through all this last July installing a US Gear Unified Tow Brake System.  The Unified installation wiring diagram CLICK HERE should help clarify my description.  The RV hot wire is the red 14 guage wire labelled umbilical cord.  It illustrates a separate 2 wire cable, but I changed my 4 wire to a 6 wire to eliminate the extra cable.
1850  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Four Months Aboard on: October 05, 2010, 09:49:53 am
Simple Song,  Great story sharing how Phoenix aims to please.  People outside this community can't believe any company like this exists.  When I share such stories on other forums, they think I work for Phoenix USA incognito.

They just don't get it.
1851  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: winterizing mh on: October 05, 2010, 08:27:11 am
About your clear tube with "T" junction & spicket, allowing air in the slinky from above to encourage full draining after the pump is done, and also seeing the clarity of the waste coming out.  That's a great idea!  I will give it some thought for my own rig.

1852  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water heater bypass on: October 04, 2010, 10:45:26 pm
On our 2007 2350, I think the hot water heater bypass setup is on the floor under the stove, but I am not certian.

I don't understand what purpose it serves.  When I winterize, I drain the hot water tank by pulling it's drain plug.  I'd never want to bypass the tank unless it sprung a leak while on a trip.
1853  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 6-CD Radio For The Ford Chassis on: October 04, 2010, 03:23:23 pm
rmmpe, I knew there was a tool for that, but thought nails would work just the same.  But NO, the tool works, nails don't.

Being a used replacement, I electrically plugged in the 6-CD version of my Ford radio, loaded it up with CDs, and ran through all the button features.  Everything checked out perfectly so I slid the radio all the way in the dash until it "Clicked" to lock in.  All done!

Not bad for $60.

My wife and I will be burning CDs of our favorite tunes.  You can get near two purchased CDs recorded on one computer-burned CD.  The 6-CD radio then becomes more like a 10-CD radio.  Stuff the radio with CDs and you're good for the entire trip.
1854  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 03, 2010, 09:57:13 pm
   On the 2350 with the slide like I have, they put the fresh water tank, water pump, sub woofer and the furance under the rear bed. Without the slide they put the furance under the reefer or the tall closet, I don't remeber which I saw. I don't know where the sub woofer went without the slide. Sorry if I caused any confusion.
Got It Tom.  Thanks for the clarity on the deviations.  I wonder if this change came to be when the fridge became part of the slideout.  I wonder then, what is under the fridge?  Is it a storage cabinet?
1855  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 03, 2010, 09:53:42 pm
I have a 2010 2350 with slide out and passenger swivel chair. When you are parked at the campground ground and you have the swivel chair turn around, the sliding curtain will cut off the chair making it impossible to sit in it.
I wonder if this problem occured when the seat design was changed to the puffier style.
1856  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 02, 2010, 03:34:54 pm
Here are head-on & rear-on pictures of mine showing the standard extending mirrors.  I like them as is, certainly not longer, and I think not shorter either, but I'd have to experience them.  I can't say it's common for me to be concerned of hitting other vehicles with mine.  Once in a great great while, yes.

About the window design, here are a couple pictures directly off PC's website.  The percentage of opening is less pending which window, more restricting in letting in a breeze.  But it has built-in protection from rain.  It's a matter of personal preference.

1857  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 02, 2010, 10:47:07 am
I am taking Ron's suggestions of ordering a splash shield for the battery and an upgraded water pump with flexible hose in and out of the pump.
 I am not sure Phoenix USA offers a battery shield like I had made.

About a pump with built-in flex lines....I have never seen them sold that way, but easy enough to add.  If the factory is not already doing it, request  they install a flex line on the pressure side of the pump to dampen plumbing vibration.  That makes a big improvement with noise.  Also, there are two types of pumps.  The old cheaper one cycles on and off all the time.  The newer more expensive design, the pump goes on when the water is running and stays on until until you turn off the water.  It seems a better choice, though I don't have first-hand experience with it.  I think it's worth the research.

Thanks for all that clarification on the changes between model years.  I am stuck in the old days, older models.  I have not examined the newest models.  Much seems different.  Now I can stop covering things no longer applicable.

About the subwoofer location.  I could not picture in my mind where it is mounted on a new 2350.  Is your description on a different model?  My furnace is under the fridge.  Not under the bed.  Maybe this is another variation between model years.

As the years roll by, I have less and less input.  And that's good.
1858  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Deep descents, rpms, redline, etc. on: October 01, 2010, 09:17:26 pm
We do play the gear game, but it's still a challenge, especially considering the tow vehicle.
1859  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Questions for new 2350 on: October 01, 2010, 09:08:57 pm
Hi All, I agree with just about everything, summing it up here.
- Fan cover only over center fan to maintain a nice outside appearance.  The 2350 is so small, only one would be needed anyway.  Leave that one open & running, and let the air be drawn in from the dash board area.  This way the rig stays locked down, rain free, and flow-thru ventilation.  I'd put one on ours but then the RV wouldn't clear the garage door.
- You know I love the thermal windows and no-slide dinette.
- Rear View Mirrors?  All I can say is I like the stock length we have.  It's nice to get a look behind the RV without using the rear camera.  It's great when changing lanes.  I don't like driving with the camera on anyway.
- For the 2350 with fixed dinette, I advise to request the surround sound subwoofer be installed in the front dinette bench.  If you say nothing, it goes under the rear corner bed consuming precious outdoor storage.  Placing it far forward also gets it away from the bed so one person watching TV will not disturb the other taking a nap.
- I highly recommend the dinette be leather, not cloth.  We have cloth and regret not getting the leather.  The cloth stretches when sliding in and out, distorting and wrinkling.  Leather (or simulated leather) would eliminate or at least minimize that.
- We have the passenger swivel seat and like it.  Admittedly, it's not easy to swing around, but well worth the effort when having day-guests.  Adult people sitting in both the barrel chair and the turned-around passenger seat, do not play footsie.  The curtian still works, but you have to draw the curtian with the backrest forward.  Once the curtain is drawn, then recline it with light contact to the curtain.  The only way to watch TV in the front passenger seat is fully reclined facing the front.  Swivelled facing way.
If the passenger seat was powered, I think it would be a waste of money.  The manual seat adjuster works great.  The power seat would offer vertical adjustment, but won't be missed as the passenger has many optional positions not avaliable to the driver.  Examples are, feet crossed, legs crossed, one leg strateling the seat, etc.
- Get the undocumented dinette window awning.  We love it.  It's great on a rainy day.  You can open the window and be protected from the rain.  Also nice in the heat too.
- Confirm your main awning covers fully over the bedroom window for the same reasons.  In 2007, we ordered our extra wide to completely cover it.  Maybe today, they are all extra wide.  That awning is great to open just 9" on still rainy days so your windows on that side can be opened without getting wet.  We've done that in places where opening the awning fully would make a scene.  An example would be in a store parking lot.  I do wonder if the newer window style has less an issue with rain.  Do they now swing open from the bottom?
- About the TVs.  We got all the wiring and sound system, but no TVs to save money.  We bought our own and I installed both myself saving around $1500 and got bigger & better TVs at the time.  But I admit, TV selection & the front TV installation is very tricky.  You have to be up for the challenge.
- We got the full body paint and love it.  Washing the RV is so much easier than washing raw gel-coat fiberglass.  I learned that with our old RV we owned for 24 years.  After the first 5 years, the surface was very hard to wash, and it doesn't last either.  But the full body paint option is very expensive.  I am an all or nothing guy concerning paint.  If I wasn't getting full body, I'd seriously consider getting no paint work at all, getting only the standard graphic swirl decals.  But that is just me.
- I requested the ladder and roof rack NOT be installed, just put in pieces, inside the RV.  I don't regret doing that.  It's all in my basement for good.  I'd include them in the sale if I ever sold the RV.  I felt all the mounting holes in the rear wall and roof would be best avoided.  And I would never use them anyway for fear of damaging the rig from the stress.  Three years into it, and I don't miss them at all.  I use a regular ladder at home to wash the roof.
- About the roof antenna.  I wonder if we'd be better off without it.  With digital TV technology, finding TV stations is rediculous.  We use the TVs to watch movies we brought from home.  When in an RV park, we hook up to cable TV.  The roof top antenna is annoying to have, rattling and clanking on rougher roads.  And it is plainly ugly.   I suppose if we spent many weeks in one remote location without CATV, it could serve a purpose.  I don't know what to advise there.  Just give it some thought of your own.

??? This one is a big QUESTION MARK, but I feel worth mentioning.
I wonder if the barrel chair could be replaced with a matching 3rd captain chair.  The barrel chair area in the 2350 is ideal for a recliner of some sort.  The barrel's low back makes it uncomfortable to watch TV, which otherwise would be ideal.  I know the factory now installs very puffy front captain chairs, so maybe a 3rd one there would have a serious space problem.  But our smaller earlier style Lexus captain chairs we have might work more easily.  I say this because the barrel chair not only swivels, but it also adjusts by sliding away from the wall.  When adjusted far from the wall, when you pivot it, it swings around far out there in a huge arc.  Understand?  It's hard to describe.

Being that you are in MA, have you checked out East Acres RV there in Mendon, MA?  He has a nicely optioned demo 2007 2350 with full new vehicle warrantee coverage.  It's a demo because the dealer took it on a trip.  You might barter down close to $60k. does have a couch slide-out.
1860  Main Forum / General Discussion / 6-CD Radio For The Ford Chassis on: September 30, 2010, 12:39:29 pm
Maybe this applies also to the newer style dash boards, but certianly for the pre-2009 chassis, you can easily swap the single CD radio with a 6-CD one. When selecting a 6-CD radio, be sure to first take out your old 1-CD and match up the connectors before buying it's replacement.  There are two differnet style radio connectors.  I learned the hard way, removing my old radio after I had the replacement in-hand.

Removing the old radio should be fairly easy, though it didn't work that way for me.  The way it is designed, you insert nails in those 4 holes in the face of the radio to release the two side retaining clips.  Then simply pull the radio out from the dash.  But I had trouble there.  I ended up removing the engine cover/dog house to expose the entire back side of the radio.  I then reached from behind to unclip the radio and then pull it forward.

I will report back once the new 6-CD radio is in.

I bought my 6-CD radio used, off ebay quite cheap.  Just be sure to get the right one with the right connector in-back.
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