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1846  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ron Dittmer's PC-2350 on: December 14, 2010, 08:31:40 pm
Ford always did make a single rear wheel cut-away E350 chassis for very small box trucks often rental trucks, but Phoenix USA never worked with that single rear wheel chassis.  There are so many variations of the E350 and E450 cut-away chassis available from Ford, so don't be concerned you have some home made make-shift chassis.  The 2350 utilizes a DRW(Duel Rear Wheel) E350 with an unmodified 158" wheel base.  It's a good solid chassis.  Some of the other PC models have chassis with wheel bases modified by specal Ford approved shops.  Phoenix USA does not stretch or reduce themself as they are not authorized.  For example the 2551 has a modified chassis.  It is an E450 today (E350 years ago) that has a wheel base 6" more than a 2350-E350.  Those chassis get special drive shafts, and all the rest that is affected from such a change in wheel base.  Rest assure, it's done right, approved by Ford with no concern of warranty violations.  I seen one when I was taking the tour there years ago.  It looked done right with extra supporting steel where the frame was cut with frame material added, and very nice welding work too.

Got the wrong bars?  I suspect you mistakenly ordered the wrong ones.  I just pulled out the paperwork on my suspension upgrades.  Typing exactly off it.....

1) 1139-115  sway bar
1) 1139-107  rear E350 sway bar
2) 82-2553  Koni shock
2) 82-2554  Koni shock
1) SS402  rear track bar E350&E450
1) 31-140  Safe-T-Plus
2) HR-1  camber sleeve

These may be vendor part numbers or shop part numbers.  I don't know.  But that is what my paperwork states.  There are two different Koni shock part numbers, one number for the front, the other for the rear.  I don't know which is which.

I hope it is useful.
1847  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 14, 2010, 04:58:08 pm
That does sound familiar......."outside Ford authorized company", not done at the Phoenix factory.  I never examined them real close, but at a glance they looked great.  You can easily see if your frame was modified.  Just look at it from below.  A couple feet behind the Ford cabin was where I recall the cuts were made.  There is added metal over the frame there.  It sounds like such mods were done right.  It is something to remember if you ever need to replace a drive shaft or parking brake cable.  Brake lines, fuel line, and wire harnesses can be easily handled without special parts.
1848  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: December 14, 2010, 10:42:48 am
Thanks Tom for the clarity!
1849  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: December 13, 2010, 05:35:25 pm
Thanks All.  The seat will be placed under the Christmas tree.  And YES, I will take pictures, before, during, and after installation for all to see if it is worth consideration for your own PC.

Tom, I wanted to say, per your comments, I bought one of those antenna digital booster thingies that attach to the underside of the Winegard antenna.  It cost me $30, cheap enough to see if it helps.  I do wonder how it attaches to the underside of the antenna as the antenna feet will be in the way of mounting it flush.  I will find out soon enough.
1850  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: December 13, 2010, 01:33:24 pm
Paul emailed me today.  They found the exact Morning Mist Gray leather used in my 2007 PC, sitting on a shelf in their stock room,
Heart Shower Yahoo!!!! Heart Shower

The seat is being made today, shipped ASAP through Phoenix USA.
1851  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Famous last words, "Just Looking" on: December 12, 2010, 11:38:41 pm
I have to admit, when I realized my cherry cabinetry had the decal thing going on, I was quite disappointed, my only real disappointment in the whole motor home.  I recalled it was advertised as solid wood cherry.  I figured I was getting better paying a premium for the cherry.  Oh well.  It's not worth making a stink over, especially since it looks so good.

There have been a couple owners upset that their decal finish was bubbling.  So far so good with mine.  If it holds up through the life of the motor home, I won't have anything to complain about because it really is a nice finish.  Very hard to tell it's a decal, even upon close inspection.  What gives it away is that the indented grain pattern is too perfectly repeated.

I actually preferred the light maple over the dark cherry, but my wife really loved the cherry, so cherry it is.  Happy Wife = Happy Life.
1852  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Famous last words, "Just Looking" on: December 12, 2010, 05:46:31 pm
All my doors are solid cherry.  The faces and sides of all my cabinets are solid wood.  I don't see any press board or partical board used anywhere.  I should mention, the sides of cabinets are plywood with a cherry finish.  The faces & plywood sides of my cabinets have some sort of "decal" material that looks like finished cherry wood, but is not.  My table and flip-up counter top are solid wood, no decal material.

Phoenix USA changes things between model years.  Mine is a 2007.  Maybe they switched to real cherry for the cabinet facing since 2007.  That would be a question to ask the factory.
1853  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: December 12, 2010, 02:01:23 am

#22  Replacing Barrel Chair With 3rd Captain Seat.
1854  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: house battery maintenance on: December 12, 2010, 01:37:41 am
Yep, you are referring to my article with pictures mentioned here, Item #18:

Detailed here:
1855  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 12, 2010, 01:30:42 am
When we visited the factory 3.5 years ago, the fellow who gave us the factory tour started out in the yard where all the chassis were parked.  He pointed out how some frames were cut, separated, then adding sections of frame and extra reinforcement, then painted.  They also had special drive shafts.  I don't recall how they handled fuel lines, wire harnesses, and parking brake cables.  This done to get the wheel base longer or shorter pending the requirements of a particular model Cruiser.  But yes they had maybe 3 different lengths straight from Ford to work with.  All I know fore sure is that my 2007 2350 frame is not modified.  My wheel base was offered in 2007, straight from the Ford factory.
1856  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Made A Decision Replacing The Barrel Chair on: December 11, 2010, 07:21:25 pm
I kicked up to being pesty and I still could not reach Pauls Seating.  I then emailed Kermit and asked if Pauls Seating was in a shut down mode or gone out of business.  Nope, they are up and running.  Kermit was kind enough to ask Paul to work with me.  Suddenly I've reached Paul again.  Thanks Kermit!

Paul was not able to get hold of the exact same color gray leather and vinyl material to make me a duplicate 3rd seat.  He got hold of a gray color he calls "Close", so he is mailing us a swatch to compre and see if it's close enough.  I should have the swatch Monday, make a quick decision to go gray or go with the green like we have now with the barrel chair it will replace.

I'll keep all updated as it unfolds.
1857  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: house battery maintenance on: December 10, 2010, 10:06:24 pm
billy has some good advise, a battery tender works great.

About the battery tray, mine too has been through the rusties.  The tray comes out without too much trouble.  I suggest to remove, take off the glides, sand, prime, and paint two coats with Rustoleum paint and rusty metal primer.

I fear undercoating products will be hard to get off if rust returns and you then decide to paint.  I do like the rubber mat idea.  I'll have to add that in mine.

If you are daring, buy a gallon of Muriatic acid from your local hardware or home improvement store.  Handle with care in outdoor conditions as the fumes will get to you quickly.  It will remove 100% of rust from steel FAST.  The hard part will be finding a tray large enough to submerged the tray in.  The acid can be diluted with water, 1/4 strength and works great.  When the rust is gone, rinse with water, blow dry, then prime and paint.
1858  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2552 vs. 2350 Roadability on: December 10, 2010, 09:21:25 am

Did Phoenix USA keep the wheelbase the same between the 2551 and the 2552, or did they stretch the wheel base one more foot accordingly?

I would assume, given the 2551/2552 is their smallest units built on the E450, you have the most CCC margin.

Tom did something different, special ordering a 2350 on an E450.  Lots more margin there.

Thanks Bob for keeping us updated as to your experiences/comparison between the two you've owned.
1859  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 09, 2010, 12:36:52 am

What a custom unit you got.  What a story.  Wow.  It sounds like you took everything you learned from your 2350, and applied all ideas into your new 2552S.  Amazing the factory was so creative in working with you on that.  It was probably the best time of year for them to experiment with a new body design, given it's their slow time of year.  One thing I can say.  Your custom 2552S is much more desirable to me than the standard 2551S.  I also like the idea of getting short table legs to turn the table into a recliner/coffee table.  I too wish I had shelves in those wing areas behind the front seats.  I empty my pockets onto one of them for bedtime, but I wish my padded wing shelves would hold real stuff while in motion.  Solid front railings would be great.

Thanks for sharing all the details.

Would you be available to answer any questions on your old 2350 if I find an interested party?
1860  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New PC 2551/2552 on: December 08, 2010, 05:56:30 pm
Oh, I do see that extra chair now.
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