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1846  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: bathroom (the head) faucet on: July 05, 2010, 10:12:58 pm
On our 2007, I changed out our cheap white plastic bathroom faucet with a real nice quality faucet that has a long reach with swivel, further described on this post:

Installation required no tools with all hand loosen & tighten with hand friendly PC connectors.  It changed out in very quick time.  A local Menards store was closing due to relocation, so we bought a $140 Delta 2569SS faucet for $48.

I advise to have the factory install their cheap plastic faucet (assuming they still install that type) and change it in your own time.  After a trip or two, you will have a better idea of what type of faucet would meet your needs best, and give you time to find a great deal.  In our case, the swivel spicket and pinky finger on/off action, were highest priorities.
1847  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Best-kept secret on: June 30, 2010, 03:12:33 pm
Phoenix, Is your steering wheel on the proper side there?  If not, how is that working for you with the entry door on the wrong side as well?
1848  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Best-kept secret on: June 29, 2010, 11:54:52 pm
We too get people coming up to us to look over our 2350.  Funny, about 25% of them are from people waiting behind us at the dump station.  "What's that you are doing there?"  They are amazed by the simplicity and rinse-free slinky of the Sani-Con.  Others are attracted by it's small size and maybe the full-body-paint job is eye catching.

I have a stack of unused older PC brochures I asked Phoenix USA to mail me.  Everyone who asks any questions, gets one.
1849  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2011 on: June 26, 2010, 11:06:17 am
I have observed between some adjacent model years, the only differences is......nothing noticable at all.  They sometimes change what is offered as standard equipment, or changes in the supplier of certian options.

As far as the chassis is concerned, that is best researched on Ford's website.  But I think there is nearly nothing different between the 2009 and 2010.  I read the 2011 or 2012 chassis might have a more fuel efficient engine, at the expense of horse power.
1850  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Upgrades on: June 23, 2010, 03:15:41 pm
I did not notice any change in steering limititations.  That is the first I heard of the possibility.  Maybe if it was not mounted properly, I could surly understand potential for it.

Each upgrade influences something for the better.  All together, it's a significant improvement.  If you leave out one, there's your weakness.  After having steering stabilizer upgraded, you may still say it's not perfect, but you will say it's much better.  It is a house on wheels, so there is only so much that can be done.  Of coarse it could never handle like a tight sports car, but it will change your driving experience for the better.

We owned our first motor home for 24 years.  12 years into it, we had lots of upgrades done to improve handling.  Learning from that, we decided to go "All-In" right from the start and enjoy the investment from the beginning rather than starting at mid-point.  For us it was a 4 to 5 percent increase in the cost of the motor home, but what a change for the better.  Our trips are so much more enjoyed because of it.
1851  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Upgrades on: June 23, 2010, 12:37:44 pm
If you search my name on and also on this forum in the tips and tricks section, I talk a lot about this subject matter.

You did everything right, but not everything complete.  You complain of the floaties which requires continuous steering compensation.  You need to get a front wheel alignment and a heavy duty front steering stabilizer.  The brand we upgraded to is a Safe-T-Plus, but there are other good brands available.

Here is what we had done to our 2007 Ford E350 chassis with a PC-2350 on it's back.  The motor home had only 800 miles on it at the time.
- rear heavy duty Roadmaster sway bar (the 2007 Ford E350 chassis had none to begin with)
- front heavy duty Roadmaster sway bar (the stock Ford bar is very thin and ineffective for the application)
- Koni-RV adjustable shocks set to the stiffest setting
- rear Hendersen trac bar (eliminates side-to-side horizontal tail wagging, especially beneficial when towing)
- heavy duty Safe-T-Plus steering stabilizer
- front wheel alignment
Cost $3900 and was definitely worth the expense.

Our 2007 2350 handles like a dream.  No more rocking, swaying, unintended lane changes, or excessive steering compensation.  I hold the wheel steady with a light touch and the RV stays put.  Even under abnormal conditions, the RV handles well.  I can even hold a cup of coffee steady, until I have finished drinking it.  The safety factor is huge and means so much to me.  Driving went from being a chore to a pleasure.  No more premature driver fatique.  The quality of ride to the passengers is an additional benefit.  My wife will sit at the dinette and her refreshment will stay on the table.  Her coffee doesn't slosh out from her cup either.  Keep in mind, this is all while towing a vehicle.

If you think another brand of motor home would avoid this expense, it just becomes amplified as the motor home gets bigger.  The bigger they are, the worse the problem.  That is why people say the Phoenix Cruiser is better.  Smaller is better, but still not right.  It depends on where you are coming from, which would explain why the article written mentioned how good it handled.

I mentioned this a few times to Kermt.  Phoenix USA should offer a "Handling Package" as an option or upgrade.  They could easily install these upgrades at the factory and make some money from it too.  The exception would be the front wheel alignment.  That needs to be done with the RV complete and loaded.  Just imagine people in RV forums saying things like "WOW, this thing handles great with that handling package option".  One more reason to order a PC.
1852  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Historic Route 66 on: June 22, 2010, 08:08:10 am
We spent a night in Kingman AZ, returning home to IL from Las Vegas in a Corvette we bought there.  Very nice town that preserved Route 66.
1853  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 15, 2010, 09:41:14 am
Have you considered investing in a small version of this?  Given high humidity conditions in Florida, I would leave the ends open to allow air to circulate freely.  It would keep rain and sun off except wind-driven rain and early & late day sun, pending position.  It's not pretty though.

Of coarse the cheapest is a simple tarp wrapping the RV, but I would be concerned of introducing a mold problem.  Still I would give a tarp a try.
1854  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 12, 2010, 10:13:11 pm
I find it quite interesting that many of us PC owners store them indoors.  If you are like me, my PC was selected because of it's small size, specifically to fit in my garage.  I learned quickly afterwards, it is a really well built RV.
1855  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 12, 2010, 12:27:09 pm
Hi Mary,

I have a new 2551 that we picked up in April.  I just went out to the garage and measured the height.  It measures 9'-11.5" to the top of the AC, the AC is 11" tall.  I am surprised that it is lower than the spec height of 10'-1"
Maybe your 2551 is 10'-1" if you had it empty, no gear, no water, just a couple gallons of gas in the tank, and then with the max tire pressure of 85psi.  Kind-of-a worst case condition.  Who really knows.

I always store ours in the garage with a full tank of gas & gear, but no water, and 65/70 psi in the tires.
1856  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I want to hear from you! on: June 11, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
Hi aimee,

I don't know if this request is too late, but it would be nice if when you submit a reply, the screen takes you to the post you replied in rather than the category of posts you replied in.  Does my request make sense?
1857  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 11, 2010, 04:25:02 pm

10'-1" to the top of your a/c until means the satelite dish would have to exceed that by 10" to potentailly hit the door jamb.

Keep in-mind that an 11 foot door means the finished door opening is some amount less.  My 10' tall door has a 9'-11.5" opening.  I had a plan if my a/c unit made contact, I would remove the 3/4" thick x 1.5" finish trim board, to gain an additional 3/4".  If that was not enough, I would shave the main door jamb a little.  Both mods only where the a/c needed it, not across the entire top edge.  A last resort would have been to let air out of the tires to lower the RV.  Thank goodness mine is true to PC specs at 9'-10" so there were no issues at all.

In your case, since you are starting fresh, make sure the "finished" door opening height is what you need, considering the finish trim/perimeter weather stripping.

In theory you could have a door opening taller than the door itself buy tacking on a nice looking extender filler piece between the bottom of the garage door and weather strip, done to close any gap up top, though that is certianly not ideal.  Don't start with that thinking.  Do that only if you get into trouble.  It is surely better to get a door tall enough to cover the taller opening.

Something to think about in your planning.

How deep is your garage?  If you are tight there, you may want to consider doing what we did, order our PC-2350 without the rear ladder and roof rack mounted.  The ladder sticks out farther than the rear spare tire cover.  If we had the ladder on, I would not be able to walk around the RV without opening the garage door to do so.  I personally don't like the ladder and rack so I asked the factory to place it in the RV in case I change my mind.  It sits in my attic taking up space.  No regret there at all.  I didn't want all those screw holes in my roof and rear wall either, just to attach a ladder I would never climb.  And I open my rear storage compartment without messing with the ladder too.  When it's time to clean the roof, I take my 10' ladder out from the garage, which is once a year at most.

Something else to think about.

Ladder and roof rack "free".

1858  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2551 height on: June 11, 2010, 03:01:55 pm
I don't know how high it is, but "SMART MOVE" on the garage idea.  We keep ours indoors when at home.  Boy it sure is nice to have that investment well protected from the elements.

If I were building a new garage from scratch, I'd go significantly bigger than the PC requires.  You never know what your future holds.  Even if you keep the PC but sell the house, what a selling point to prospective buyers....a garage for their 40 footer, big boat, whatever.

So Think Bigger if applicable!

Our garage was built bigger than our first tiny little motor home required, so our 2350 squeezes in by only 1.5" to the top of the garage door opening, and 16" over-all length.  It is a tight fit, though side-to-side is generous, thank goodness there.  There is a low hanging sofit in the ceiling of the garage to enclose an I-beam that was lower than the door opening buy a few inches.  I tore it down and boxed it as small as possible so now I can jack the tires up off the floor if need be.  Be sure to consider that in your garage mods if applicable....the ability to jack up front or rear without crushing something up top.

Ours in the garage seen in the background.
1859  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Norcold Fridge Cycling Codes Problem on: June 07, 2010, 01:49:53 am
That is very good to know.  You would think resetting the fridge computer would be covered in the owners manual.  I wonder if pulling the fridge fuse for 10 minutes would accomplish the same.  That is the poor man's way of resetting the engine's computer on many cars.
1860  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Backup Camera Problem on: June 07, 2010, 01:38:26 am
No sound on my 2010 PC 2350. I asked Bobby at the factory and he checked with Carol who said that the new Sony's do not have sound.
No Sound???  That is too bad.

Our 2007 has sound.  We use it all the time when backing up.  My wife stands behind providing verbal directions for me to avoid obstacles, especially the things I can't see in the mirrors like low hanging tree branches and the distance to those steaked-down big log tire stops in national park camp grounds.  I'd rip off the mascerator pump hitting one of them. 

Sound is also great when pulling in after quiet hour.  My wife can talk normal, and I hear her clear as a bell with the volume up.  We don't wake up the neighborhood that way.

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