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1846  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water Pump -- Where is it? on: August 27, 2010, 04:21:01 pm
Enjoy the project.  Either way, you will appreciate the results.

About Arches/Canyonlands.....My Favorite!  We were in that area last September for 3 weeks.  Click Here To See My Few Remaining On-Line Pics

If you want to camp primitive & cheap, there are numerous BLM campgrounds about.  Just be careful camping along the river in BLM's.  There are the tiniest bugs that easily make it through the window screens.  If it's hot, you can't run the genset or main engine due to camp ground restrictions, so you have to open the windows.  Turn on the interior lights and you'll have clouds of bugs around each light fixture.  They don't bite, just freak out my wife.  The only way to rid the ones inside is to wet a wash cloth and capture them between the damp cloth and flourecent light lens.  We learned to open the windows only when the lights were turned off.  Then no bugs.

Have a great trip.
1847  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: What Is That Banging I've Been Tollerating For The Past 3 Years? on: August 27, 2010, 03:35:35 pm
I will check that too.  Thanks for the insight and experience Tom.  ThumbsUp
1848  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water Pump -- Where is it? on: August 27, 2010, 03:29:35 pm
Paula,

I don't know where your pump is located on your 2551, but..........

When we bought our 2350 back in 2007, we too had a noisy surging quick-cycling pump.  It didn't sound pretty, moaning and groaning every few seconds.  After getting educated about this, I installed a small water pressure tank from Home Depot and also covered the pump with a home-made wooden enclosure for noise and protection from severe impact from stuff, given the pump is mounted in my outdoor storage compartment.  See here.



Since installation, the pump is just a quiet humm, and the quick cycling is gone.  I estimate close to 1/2 gallon of water is in reserves when the pump shuts off.  When on, it runs until the reserves in the pressure tank are back to full.  It changed the feel & quality of the entire plumbing system.  I think some of the "Quiet Factor" came when I re-plumbed the pump to the pressure tank instead of the RV.  Both inlet and outlet hoses for the pump are now flexible, one is the no-pressure soft tube from the main fresh water tank, the other a stainless braided hose used for a faucet or toilet at home.  With both in and out pipes being flexible, they dampen vibration so vibration no longer resinates through the RV plumbing.

We exclusively dry camp with only occasional electric hookup, so our water is always used on-board with the pump.  It really makes a huge improvement.  Other good news is that it cost me only $50 which if you are handy, you can do it just as cheap.  But if not, you can buy a much more expensive pressure tank with mounting feet from places like Camping World at nearly 5 times the price.

If interested, email me direct through my profile here and I will email you the installation procedure with pictures, in a Word document.  It does assume a 2350 like mine, so you'd have to deviate as needed.
1849  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / What Is That Banging I've Been Tollerating For The Past 3 Years? on: August 27, 2010, 10:59:54 am
I don't yet have pictures of this to share, but it's easy to imagine.

From the day we bought our 2350 in 2007, when driving on bumpy roads, we would get this strange banging noise in the area around the DVD player.  It drove me nuts, nuts, nuts with each vacation taken.  I had my wife look high and low, but we never could find the culprit until this past trip.

What is it?  The roof top antenna.

When we returned home this past week from a 3 week vacation, I got up there and added stick-on felt pads to the plastic antenna feet, the kind you use to slide chairs on wooden floors.  I also pads on the edges of the wings.  I have not driven the RV on bumpy roads since so I cannot say for certian that I resolved the problem.  But it's a very good prognosis.
1850  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: August 27, 2010, 10:54:05 am
I don't yet have pictures of this to share, but it is pretty easy to imagine.

From the day we bought our 2350, when driving our rig on bumpy roads, we would get this strange banging noise in the area around the DVD player.  It drove me nuts, nuts, nuts.  I had my wife look high and low, but we never could find the culprit until this past trip.

What is it?  The roof top antenna.

When we got home this past week, I got up there and added stick-on felt pads, the kind you use to slide chairs on wooden floors.  I added them to the feet of the antenna and also on the edges of the wings.  I have not driven the RV on bumpy roads since so I cannot say for certian that I resolved the problem.  But it's a good prognosis.
1851  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Big Thanks to Ron Dittmer & Bob Mahon on: August 25, 2010, 05:03:21 pm
Wow...Aimee, those pictures with your added text do show professionally on the website.  Nice work there girl!  I like your tasteful copyright logos too.  Thanks for that.  I really like the way the pictures alternate to give everyone exposure.  I hope you eventually replace some of mine as other pictures become available.  I don't want to dominate the picture action to be fair to the others.
1852  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Awning brackets on: August 25, 2010, 04:23:58 pm
Trudy,

I assume you refer to the older style box awning brackets like I have on my 2007.  I learned something doing mine which you will be interested.  I have mixed feelings about where I mounted mine.

On my 2350 with a 14 foot box awning, I had thought it would be best to mount the brackets farther apart than what would be considered proper.  Proper meaning perfectly below the ends of the box.  But I mounted the brackets farther out (closer to the rear bumper and closer to the driver's cab) to increase the swing of the entry door (the door will hit the pole there) along with having a little more room to walk under the awning.  I did achieve more of each.  But, I quickly learned it became more difficult to latch the poles into the brackets because they are no longer perpendicular to eachother.  I have to gently and minimally bend the poles to get their feet set into the brackets.  I don't consider that ideal.  I wonder what I would have done if I knew that up front.

Oddly something else good came from having the brackets farther apart.  Once latched, there is no latch/bracket rattling when the wind picks up.  The slight angle of the pole's foot into the bracket offers a comfortably snug fit.  It does not seem to over-stressing anything either.
Also, because the poles angle in toward the top, that seems to discourages some side-to-side motion when the awning is fully extended.
Is that worth it?  You decide for yourself.

As far as how high to mount the brackets?  The higher the better because the poles are near full extension for me when the awning is fully open.  If I mounted the brackets near the bottom of the skirt, the poles might not extend long enough.  I mounted my brackets near the top of the skirt but not too high to provide adequate flat-back-side surface for the bracket's fender washers and locking nuts.

I also painted my brackets to match my full body paint.  The paint did chip a little with use but only where contact is made which is still much better than all white brackets on a dark gray RV.  Email me direct and I will email you a picture of my front bracket, showing how high up (a good thing) and also how far forward (a questionable thing)

Ron
1853  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof Rack Ladder on: August 25, 2010, 03:43:41 pm
I hope to use the roof as a platform for taking pictures while we are in Yellowstone and on the Beartooth Highway, so the ladder will be very handy.
Just be careful up there.  Not only a concern of falling off, but also damaging the roof.

I weigh 180 pounds and sense the roof a bit soft for walking on.  I try to limiting myself to crawling on all fours and even then limitedly.  On rare occasion I'll stand barefoot on the roof to work the garden hose around the a/c or antenna when washing it.  It's not a comfortable feeling.
1854  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Buying new on: August 25, 2010, 11:52:10 am
If anyone still has a comment on my original post regarding how they chose their PC model whether by examining a motor home at the factory or by relying on the brochure and this forum I'd welcome it.
Glenn,

I would NOT recommend buying any motor home without first seeing one in-person.  It doesn't have to be your exact model & floor plan, but at least one of the family.  You'll want to touch & feel the quality (or lack of) and see how relative features suit you.  In the case of the PC, the interior height and width, entry door, over-the-cab area, it's all the same between models.  If you examine one model closely, you'll get a very good idea how another model will feel.

My wife and I saw our first Phoenix Cruiser at an RV show near Chicago's O'Hare airport in February 2007.  It happened to be the exact model we wanted, a 2350.  The show unit had a slide-out which we elected not to order.  We did visit the factory, to see a no-slide dinette in a different model to validate our decision.  That visit also helped us make decisions on features and colors.  We do live only 160 miles from the factory which made for a nice Saturday spent together.

There are very few pictures available of a no-slide dinette which is why I posted pictures of mine --->  CLICK HERE
1855  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Roof Rack Ladder on: August 25, 2010, 11:18:37 am
When special ordering mine in 2007, I made a bold decision (bold to me anyway) to request the factory "Not" mount the roof rack or ladder, but instead place them inside the RV.  I disassembled and stored them in my basement.  So far I have not regretted that decision.  The only time I get up top is to wash the roof of which I use my home ladder for that.

I do admit I was initially inspired to leave them off to improve my walk-around clearence of the RV when parked inside my garage.  If I had the ladder attached, I'd have to open the garage door to get around the rig.  But I quickly appreciated the cleaner appearence, ease of washing, and less caulked-over holes in sensitive places.....ie the roof.

The only concern I have is when camping, if I tangle a branch in the a/c or other vent.  I don't have any way of getting up there to untangle it.  But given the PC is lower than most motor homes, the scenario is unlikely.  So far so good.
1856  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 (non-slide) refrigerator on: August 24, 2010, 06:22:39 pm
Thanks for the warning.  I will pay close attention when in very hot weather.

When in-route, it is unavoidable.  But it may be wise to stay where pole electric is available, for both roof-top a/c and electric fridge opperation.
1857  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: I reduced my overall width. on: August 24, 2010, 06:14:05 pm
Tom,

I personally appreciate the longer mirror arms (wings) to see traffic close behind me when changing lanes without needing the rear camera on.  But I can appreciate your perspective.  It's a great story too, how Phoenix spends the time to satisfy their customers on even the little things like your custom deviations.  Thanks for sharing.

On a related note, I "shoe-horn" my PC inside my garage with mirrors folded, so I pay close attention to the fancy illuminated door handle when pulling inside.  I have learned to favor the driver side and all is well.  But I admit that door handle and my high-mounted door stop (an earlier model year thingy) has me a bit paranoid.  Both are seen in this picture along with the wings.

1858  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: dry camping on: August 24, 2010, 05:52:17 pm
Yep.....check the breaker on the generator itself.  It is not easy to find, but it is there.

The microwave oven and roof-top a/c unit will not work without the generator running (with breaker set properly) or plug-in power.

A dry camping tip......I don't know about the newer inverters, but my 3 year old Tripp-Lite inverter consumes 12 amps of battery juice, just sitting idle.  I turn on my inverter only when inverted 110v is needed.  Otherwise it's turned off.  My batteries are so much happier that way.

My post here explains it in great detail:  Click On This Text
1859  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: our new Phoenix on: August 24, 2010, 05:40:39 pm
Congrats Kevin on the birth of your new baby.

I too vote for full body paint.  Here on the internet, pictures of full body paint are everywhere, seeming they are very common.  But in reality, there are so few to be seen.  At least where we go, most motor homes are plain Jane rentals.  Ours really stands out.  We get many compliments.

Also, the painted surface is so much easier to clean than unpainted fiberglass.  I learned that from owning my first motor home for 24 years.  Plain fiberglass weathers poorly.  Then near impossible to keep clean.

If you didn't get the thermal pane window option, I advise to reconsider.  Oh how nice they are, both quiet and comfortable inside when it's noisey and lousey outside.

I opted for leaving the roof rack and ladder off the RV.  They are in my basement.  After 3 years, still no regrets.
1860  Main Forum / Photos / Re: Scenic Pictures Of Our 2007 2350 on: August 24, 2010, 05:03:06 pm
Aimee,

I sent you the pics and my testimony.
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