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31  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2450 non-slide on: July 14, 2014, 01:15:45 pm
I see the factory did the 3 drawer galley that I originated here:,1751.0.html
I wonder if you are pioneering it for them because I will tell you right now that their method for holding your drawers shut will NOT, and I mean ABSOLUTELTY NOT keep the drawers closed.  When conditions are right, they will pop open and smash through the built-in drawer glide stops and end up on the floor.  I tried a number of experiments from those roller closures you mentioned, to a very strong 5 double magnet per drawer method.  Nothing short of a true latch will keep the drawers closed when conditions are worst.  I thought I had it licked with 5 double magnets per drawer, until we were well into our trip in Glacier NP, taking a jolting hair-pin turn to the right.  The extreme jolt and centrifugal force opened the drawers fast as bullets and they all ended up on the floor.  The first time it happened, only the top drawer opened and held.  The second time in another location, all 3 drawers ended up on the floor with the drawer glides broken.  We finished the trip with dinette cushions wedged in place to prevent it again.  What a big pain.  Fortunately we were doing that only the last week of our 4 week trip.

I advise you do this, a very cheap and simple non-intrusive insurance policy.

Buy child safety latches for those three drawers, the kind that allow you to open the drawer a couple inches for you to push the latch aside to open the drawer to it's fullest.  Even if you don't install them, have them in a tool box in the rig so you could install them during a trip.  Hopefully when it happens the first time (and it will happen) your built-in glide stops won't break on you, avoiding ball bearings all over the floor.

Maybe our problem was putting to much heavy stuff as seen in that post of mine, but that was our goal to begin with, placing all kitchen things in the kitchen.

I see in your picture, the factory was able to place that heater vent inside the kick board below the bottom drawer.  That is great.  Hopefully they will apply that to all galley cabinets in the future.

32  Main Forum / Photos / Re: 2450 non-slide on: July 14, 2014, 12:50:37 pm
2 Words....I'm Jealous!
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: new LED lights on: July 14, 2014, 12:32:06 pm
I started that thread with a question on simply changing florescent to LED bulbs.  It seems the best method for me personally is to change out the fixtures.  But I did not yet make up my mind.  There is substantial cost to either method whether modifying the fixtures or changing them.

Here is the thread:,1789.0.html
34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 Outside Storage on: July 14, 2014, 09:35:07 am
My reply is for those considering special ordering a new 2350 or 2450.

Our older 2007 2350 without a slide out seems to offer much more outdoor storage than any current-day 2350 with or without a slide out.  Our under-bed outdoor storage (shown below) is quite large.  I think both my wife and myself can fit inside it together.  We should try that and have our son take a picture.  LOL   We did have our subwoofer mounted under the front dinette bench which helped.  The subwoofer is typically mounted under the bed for consistency with units that don't have a dinette.

Design changes since 2007, improved the handling of the rig and later accommodating the fridge in the slide out.  But they came at the sacrifice to outdoor storage detailed here.
- furnace with ductwork moved from under fridge to under bed
- fresh water tank was over rear bumper, turned 90 degrees and moved forward (our tank is behind the left dark wood wall in the pic)
- step-down area of storage compartment changed to a drawer

I believe the furnace had to be relocated out from under the fridge because the bathroom and main-room ductwork we have could not move as the fridge moved with the slide out.  Having the fresh water tank turned 90 degrees made the outdoor storage compartment very shallow.  Relocating the furnace with ductwork under the bed, lost more outdoor storage yet.

I wonder if one could custom order a new 2350 today without a slide out but with the setup of a 2007.  If I reordered our rig today, I would request that.  Actually I would request that in a 2450 along with the larger bed to have even more outdoor storage.  I would also request my 3-drawer galley as Carol has done with her 2450.

I am just sharing ideas for people like myself with uncommon thinking of a no-slide preference.  I am not trying to be a critic at all here, so  please don't take it that way.

35  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: TOWING- cargo trailer on: July 13, 2014, 10:17:09 pm
Our first tow vehicle weighed only 2100 pounds.  I never did set it up with tow brakes.  Admittedly I considered it a borderline situation.  Our current tow vehicle weighs twice that but with the tow brakes we have, instead of taking longer to stop, it is actually shorter.

So if your little U-Haul without brakes weighs under 2100 pounds, I'd say you'll do okay.  Just drive accordingly.
36  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HWH Levelers on: July 11, 2014, 05:08:18 pm
We never have a problem with our antenna because we NEVER USE IT.     .....wishing we left it at the factory.
37  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Hand-Held Bug Zapper, Fun & Effective on: July 11, 2014, 07:45:23 am
On sale at Aldi for $5.

The Aldi bug zapper operates off two AA batteries and activates with a button that you must hold in to power up.  Surprising it works effectively.  It cannot handle a swarm of larger bugs, and large bugs tend to take time to zap away.  They get stuck and you have to tap the racket to clear them or they will prevent an effective "zap" for the next pest.

My wife went outside after dark to water some plants on the front porch and I went out with her.  Just moving the zapper around her lower body, it killed a minimum of 10 mosquitoes in around 5 seconds.

It's a good feeling to get even for mosquitoes are real hard on my girl.  I bought a second zapper for our PC.
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Power step on: July 10, 2014, 12:22:25 pm
Ron, Instead of regular WD40 you might want to try WD40 Silicone spray on parts you want to lube but don't want the oily on the outside. Dirt and sand will stick to regular WD40 but not to the Silicone spray.
Oh Yes!!!  Good Advise.
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Power step on: July 10, 2014, 08:57:37 am
If that switch is completely exposed underneath the rig, it might be collecting a lot of road dust & dirt of which could cause it from working consistently.  Once back home, remove and inspect.  If it isn't corroded/rusted, I would just clean it good with an old tooth brush and dish water, not lube it for concern it will collect dirt much more quickly.  If rusty, soak it with a CLR type of product, rinse, dry, (maybe clean with old tooth brush too) and douse with WD-40 to protect it from rusting again.  But then plan on cleaning it much more often.

Glad to read keelhauler's solution got GoPhoenix problem resolved.  This is a great forum.  A "Helpful" from me to kh.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2100 - No slide - Question on: July 09, 2014, 05:57:48 pm
Sorry I did not mean anything bad or going without the DW. I just figured you were dreaming about how easy it would be to if you had a really small rig.
If I was traveling alone, which I hope never happens, I would own a 22 foot class B sprinter that looked like a passenger van, not a camper.
All is well Tom....really really well.  I figured you must have meant something else.  Forums are occasionally risky concerning interpretation.

You did read me right....."dreaming about how easy it would be to if you had a really small rig".
41  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2100 - No slide - Question on: July 09, 2014, 03:50:46 pm
"I have a dream". Good for you Ron.
Whoa there Tom,

My dream is to travel in our 2350 with my girl Irene.  I was just saying......"IF" doing life solo.....
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2100 - No slide - Question on: July 09, 2014, 11:49:46 am
If I were travelling solo, my PC of choice would be a NO-slide 2100, but I would special order it, deviating a little from this no-slide plan.

First of all, I find our dinette "Very" comfortable to sleep on, especially now with the memory foam cushions.  The dinette/bed in our 2350 is roomy and fits my 5'-11" tall body just right.  I would just make sure the 2100 dinette is dimensionally the same as our 2350.

This is what I would request different from the factory.

I would keep the dinette as is, making sure it has memory foam cushions for both good sleeping and sit-up comfort.  I would set the dinette up as a day bed and keep it that way all the time.  I would have the factory supply a good set of matching bolsters for backrests and arm rests, and toss them on a front seat when it's time to sleep....basically converting between a couch and a bed with the bolsters.  The dinette as a bed provides a ton of storage inside each bench and also under the table portion.  It also provides the option to have a dinette if the need ever came up.

As for the couch across from the dinette, I would delete it and have the factory build a nice desk where I could sit in a normal chair and look out the window there, using it as a place to eat, write, or use a laptop computer.  I would have 12V and 110V outlets there.  I would supply my own folding or other chair of my own choosing.  The smaller window there would be selected so a nice size closet could be built between the desk and the front passenger seat.  That would provide a lot more inside storage.

Since there is so little outdoor storage, I would request the rear dinette bench get sealed off to the inside, access only from the outside via an insulated door as is currently done with our 2350 rear corner bed.  The front dinette bench would remain accessible to the inside for an outside door would be too tiny for practicality given the angled transition wall.

There might be a mechanical obstacle to overcome, maybe the furnace or other mechanical thingy inside the rear dinette bench or behind the couch, so this would all have to be worked through or possibly compromised to some degree.
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HWH Levelers on: July 09, 2014, 11:23:31 am
I am always interested in the post re levelers,,, previous owner had them installed on our 2350,, over $4k ouch,,, I've never used them.. keep using the blocks.   I think I need to go to a local parking lot (concrete) and practice,, For some reason I'm scared to death they will get stuck.... I did extend them once at the storage yard,  Again maybe going out and playing with them a little will give me the confidence to use them
Sparky, you just kill me.   Smile
44  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Colorado's Million Dollar Highway in the San Juan Mountains???? on: July 09, 2014, 11:19:11 am
I agree with RhealNL completely.

Adding that any time you camp at elevation 8000 or higher, it can quickly become winter in the middle of summer.  Many years ago my brother and I did an overnight back pack hike in the Tetons in the middle of August.  We woke up to 4 to 5 inches of snow.  We were concerned of missing the trail to get down from high elevation.  Snow at elevation is not unheard of in summer, and the Million Dollar Highway is one such place where it can happen.  So be sure your furnace is in tip-top shape, and your propane tank is full.....especially you diesel Sprinter folks with a propane generator.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 08, 2014, 09:31:47 am
Hi Gail and Hal!

I am glad you got active here to receive the full flavor of experiences and ideas from others owning a 2350.  Hopefully other current-day 2350 and former 2350 owners will provide input that will have you rethinking my inputs to you.  And that is what you want, having a full understanding from a variety of perspectives.  Be sure to ask again the questions you asked me, to all the community here.

Again,  Welcome
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