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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 13, 2016, 02:56:31 pm
Ron, Forgot to say that Ford is not giving the Spare tire with the cutaway, now you have to but it as an extra

Jim

Hi Jim,

I understood the spare tire has always been an option along with many other things.  I am not familiar with the options list available to RV outfitters.  It would be interesting to see that list.

Keyless Entry (key fobs to lock and unlock the van doors) is one option I wished we had.

I think there is an optional higher-output alternator, something I would have wanted for a little extra power to charge the batteries when idling the Ford V10 engine.....just a little more electrical support when stuck in a multi-hour traffic jamb or snow storm after dark with my chassis lit up and house fired up with a movie and more from the boredom.
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Any Experience with new 6 Speed Transmission on: September 13, 2016, 10:06:30 am
You can keep the cruise on when going up hills without screaming downshifts. Also in cruise, if you are towing down a steep hill, the transmission will downshift more gently to help keep the speed from building too much. Much nicer that the 5 speed. ThumbsUp
That is my dissatisfaction with the 2007 TorqShift transmission we have.  If for any reason we had to replace it, I would try hard to get the new one installed.

With one more gear, I wonder how much it positively influences fuel economy.
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Slide Rattling on: September 12, 2016, 03:59:55 pm
If possible, get on a ladder to reach the topper, tighten it up as much as possible by hand, then keep it tight with bungee cords or duct tape, then drive around to see if the rattling stopped or changed in some manner.  That would help to determine if the topper is your culprit.

Be sure to immediately undo the restraints when you get back home.
34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: changing to bilstein shocks on: September 12, 2016, 12:26:10 pm
I think you who own a 2551 or longer PC will have fewer "handling" complaints compared to us who own a 2400 or shorter.  The longer the rig, the more stable it will feel.  The long wheel base helps to reduce poor behavior.  So you with the 2910 or 3100 may wonder why all the talk about handling and suspension improvements.

The 2100-2400 PC models are more prone to up/down bounce & lean because the wheel base is short and the rear overhang is long.  That rear overhang acts like a huge lever, pushing down hard on the rear axle during road dips, so much that the front end will lift.  It acts like a teeter-tauter, sometimes referred to as porpoising.  Also, during aggressive road curves, the long rear overhang likes to pull the rear farther out via centrifugal force.

With that said, I would imagine that if you with a longer PC are not comfortable with it's handling, you have some options available, making the same upgrades that some of us with our shorter PCs are doing....

- heavy duty front and rear stabilizer bars
- rear trac bar
- heavy duty steering stabilizer
- heavy duty shock absorbers.

Reiterating what I said a few times in the past.
The shock absorbers installed on the E350 and E450 cut-away chassis for motor homes, is the exact same one Ford installs on their E250 vans.  That indicates to me that the shock is rated "deficient" for our permanent max-load chassis application.

Regardless of the PC model you own, pay close attention to how your PC reacts to dips in the road surface and curves on byways.  For road surface dips, your PC should settle down after the 2nd up/down repetition.  Pay attention to both the front and the rear axle independently.  If it continues to bounce significantly on cycle #3 and more, your shocks are too weak for the application.

Also pay attention when taking on the curves on byways.  If your PC leans hard in the turns, you'll want heavy duty stabilizer bars to keep the weight more firmly planted on "ALL" your tires.  When in a significant lean, you have a lot more weight placed on the outer tires.  That extra weight shift can encourage a blow out.  It also reduces braking effectiveness while in "the lean".

Even if you are comfortable driving with some deficient PC behavior, consider the safety of occupants and your PC.  If the improvements prevent even one mishap, the money you spent on the upgrades, more than covers their cost.  At least this is my thinking.  You decide for yourself.

About the Mor-Ryde comments from Kermit about PC twisting and seams splitting, I have never felt comfortable subjecting our PC to extremely rough road conditions.  When we travel to places with such rough roads in the area, we setup camp elsewhere and do day excursions in our Jeep on those roads.  I wonder if the Mor-Ride would be fine as long as you limit yourself to "reasonably rough" roads.

I wonder how "any" motor home will hold up driving for hours on a surface as rough as following the rails on train tracks.
35  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 12, 2016, 09:18:21 am
Ron, What Bob told me at the factory last week when I was in for repairs is that you can have the new end cap without the spare and the origianal end cap with the spair

Jim
Ah!  Good to know the original rear wall system with spare tire is not discontinued.  I suppose we will see some with the spare tire, some without.  Maybe Kermit is "feeling out" the market before making a final decision.
36  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Improvements & Enhancements, 2007 PC-2350 on: September 10, 2016, 10:46:24 pm
Added #33 Upgraded Front Door Speakers With THESE.
37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: changing to bilstein shocks on: September 10, 2016, 12:41:55 pm
If the Mor-Ryde conversion requires replacing your Koni-FSDs, send me a private message.  I might buy them from you.
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: About Dinettes, Why A Dinette Is Bigger When Not In A Slideout on: September 10, 2016, 12:31:24 pm
Wow, thanks for the details.

This is so not like Phoenix.  The picture looks like it was taken from an L-Cheap-O motor home manufacture.  I wonder what's going on there, why it was made this way and why they did not help you with with making it right.  I would not be happy with this either.  If this is the new dinette going forward, I couldn't recommend a dinette  Cry  We love ours immensely.  It was one of the primary reasons for buying our PC.


Adding: Here is a picture of the brand new 2017 model with a dinette.  This looks right.  How you got that stumps me.  That is why I asked you if you requested anything special with your dinette when ordering your PC.
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Flourescent Bulbs don't fit on: September 10, 2016, 11:56:45 am
Bummer on the bulbs not fitting.

You mentioned not being handy, but if you are open to the idea, simply change your florescent fixtures to LED ones.

I decided to go a different route and converted all our florescent fixtures to LEDs HERE.  I cut power consumption nearly in half.  Just as important to us was the quality of light.  We did not like the cold blue florescent look.  Then there was the ever common light resonating issue when conditions (whether bulbs or power) were less than perfect.  I could have reduced usage further by disabling even more LEDs, but we like a little more light with our dark cherry cabinetry interior.  The night lights I added within each are a great addition.

I enjoy doing these kinds of projects but realize they are not for everyone.  

If you change your fixtures with new ones, please contact me before throwing away your old florescent ones.  I would like to experiment with different LED configurations, but don't want to disturb the work I already did.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 10, 2016, 11:44:57 am
There are various opinions on the changes in PC for 2017.  Since PC is a small company they need to hit the mark when they make changes or potentially lose sales.  Perhaps PC should consider holding some online/demonstration sessions for PC owners to gauge interest in upgrades needed or explain reasoning for required changes. That would keep everyone informed and allow for more eyes to look at changes for problems/enhancements before they are instituted.

Ron
I like the idea.  Maybe it could be something as simple as Aimee our moderator to conduct poles on various ideas brewing there at Phoenix.  Or create a section where the factory and owners share ideas.

Regarding the spare tire, it would have been nice if Phoenix continued to mount the spare tire as before, but redesign that compartment so that the space could easily be repurposed.   Style it square and hinge the door to be an additional outdoor storage compartment.  If the buyer wants to carry a spare tire, it is setup to do so.  If he does not want to carry a spare tire, the space is there to carry other items.  If the buyer changes his mind in either direction, he has the option to do so. 

Being a square tire compartment, the opening would be much larger and shaped perfect for zero gravity chairs and other folding chairs and tables.  I think the inability to store those particular items properly is one issue many here deal with in different ways.
41  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entry Lock on: September 10, 2016, 12:39:08 am
Hey guys (and gals)...  Got to use the digital entry lock system for a week now....  What's great, (or we think so... especially for me... the digital lock), is that NOW, I don't need ANY keys in my pocket to enter the Phoenix!  This is great as I don't like the all-day constant rubbing on my leg.... the Keys in my pocket. This is annoying to me.  

So I just leave all the keys in the coach, and enjoy the day.... (now to get rid of the back pocket wallet!  Smile  Help

Just thought I would share this info as we do a lot of ATV'ing, and the rough trails and such do, do a number on "what's in your pocket".   Just saying....

As far as someone seeing our combination, that we punch it in... Well first of all, it can be changed daily. Also if you program "same number twice", that certainly would confuse anyone from copying.   And... lets face it... if someone wants to break into our coaches... the driver or passenger windows would be the quickest.  With proper towels one could break a window without too much noise and be in within a minute.   But glad some of you are concerned about this....  Thanks


Denny and Barb
Where I volunteer at an auto charity, we occasionally need to get into a locked vehicle.  For someone who knows how and comes prepared with a simple home made tool, a thief can get into a locked vehicle quickly without breaking anything.

For a motor home, it would nice to have an adjustable bar that attaches to the driver and passenger inside door handles.  This way a prepared thief would not be able to open an unlocked door.  He would have to go the next step and actually "Break" in.  I suppose a cable & padlock would be just as effective.
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: changing to bilstein shocks on: September 10, 2016, 12:25:52 am
I agree with Ron... Koni maybe a better choice over Bilstein...   I did the Bilstein route, and now wish I would have maybe went with the Koni.  Ride is not good with the Bilstein heavy duty..

Denny and Barb
Remember that Koni sells two kinds of motor home shocks.  They are Koni-RV (adjustable, red color), and Koni-FSD (gold color).  I have the Koni-RV shocks set to heavy duty for best handling.  I wished the Koni-FSD shocks were available back in 2007 for our ride could use a little softening.

The Koni-FSD shocks have been around for many years.  I saw them for sale in 2007 but were not available for the E-series.  Back then they were marketed only for tour buses and $500K-$1M diesel pushers....really huge high-end rigs.
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New King Bed for 2552 on: September 10, 2016, 12:18:49 am
Maybe the 2552 king size bed is optional.

One thing certain, as long as parts are available (i.e. old stove, spare tire in rear wall etc.), Phoenix can make what you want via special ordering.
44  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: About Dinettes, Why A Dinette Is Bigger When Not In A Slideout on: September 10, 2016, 12:04:18 am
HenryJ,

Your dinette looks very different than what Phoenix typically installs.  Where are the side walls that cradle the cushions?  Did you "special request" that?  It appears you have a square steel tube frame or thick board behind the backrest cushion.  Could you explain what that is?  Would you make the dinette into a bed and take a picture of that?

Looking at your two pictures, I understand why you asked for another set of cushions.

Ron
45  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Side storage locks on: September 08, 2016, 10:35:42 pm
I would buy a bunch of those combination locks except that I would then be dependent on my dollar store 2.5 cheater glasses, and also get down on one knee to read the tiny little numbers.

The issue of "Getting Old" is getting old.   Cry
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