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31  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: First 2018 Phoenix Cruiser is in Inventory on: August 24, 2017, 02:34:40 pm
Maybe what I am about to comment on was implemented in 2017.

- I thought the spare was replaced with a square protruding storage unit. But it's smooth and clean across the back.  I do like carrying a spare.  But if not, that looks much better.

- Real Leather, Yes!  BUT it better NOT be real bonded leather for it will flake.  Top Grain leather is real leather like a pair of good quality shoes.  Earl should clarify the type of leather, or at least specify it in their brochure and website.  Affordable furniture stores sell leather couches.  They will brag about 24% leather.  It's actually leather fibers mixed into the vinyl that cracks & flakes over time.  not 24% of the surfaces being real leather.

- Windows in a slide must be nice for you slide out owners.

- I noticed a long horizontal window by the sink.  Is that new?  Does it open?

What can I say....Phoenix still offers a fantastic product.  They did good by not changing too much.  I hope they offer the spare tire rear wall cap as an option.
32  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: LED Bulb Brightness on: August 24, 2017, 11:53:21 am
Has anyone tried dabbing every-other LED on your original fixtures with a permanent marker?  If the light beams too bright through it, the maybe dabbing every LED.  Maybe 2 or 3 dabs per LED.  If you change your mind, just wipe clean with rubbing alcohol.
33  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Water pump failure on: August 23, 2017, 10:53:04 am
There is something you can do to prolong your on-board pump and greatly reduce the noise it makes.  It also makes your on-board water pressure more consistent.

I installed a two gallon water accumulator (also called a water pressure tank).  It eliminates the rapid on/off cycling of the pump and it dampens the vibration so well that it eliminates nearly all the noise.  We have to be very quiet to listen to our pump running.  I installed a regular house accumulator from Home Depot, but the best and easiest installation is the one pictured.  I like it primarily for it's feet and also for the platform to mount the pump on.

Here is a picture with a pump mounted on it.

Shurflo offers them with the pump bracket on top and also on the side for low-profile installations.
2 gallon TOP MOUNT bracket, model number is 14-053-00
2 gallon SIDE MOUNT bracket, model number is 14-066-00

Camping world sells them at a stiff price of around $180, but I had found a supplier selling them for less than a hundred dollars.  Doing a quick search, I can't find that supplier right at the moment.

Here is my makeshift setup with the $40 Home Depot tank.  It isn't pretty, but it has been working well for 10 years.  I would have bought the fancy stainless steel one with feet and platform but I learned about it years later.

34  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 T new toilet is in the mail on: August 23, 2017, 10:38:27 am
Boy, the underside of that toilet seat sure does look hard to clean and keep clean.  I now understand your complaint much better.
35  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 T new toilet is in the mail on: August 21, 2017, 07:42:51 pm
Hi Patricia,

I don't know your specific PC toilet, but I seem to recall that our PC toilet seat is contoured around the bowl.  When sitting on the seat, my body weight is distributed around the bowl.

A conventional toilet seat from a home improvement center typically doesn't sit flush on the ceramic bowl.  It has stand-offs.  If I installed a conventional seat on our plastic PC toilet, the concentrated pressure might cause a break.

Just keep that in mind when replacing your toilet seat.  Maybe removing the stand-offs and resting the seat flat across the bowl will eliminate such concern.

36  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Ever Wonder What A No-Slide-Out Dinette Looks Like? on: August 21, 2017, 05:15:13 pm
The slide margins take up a lot of area.
The slide margins is about half of the over-all gain of wall space.  The remainder is gained by utilizing the angled transition wall.  As shown here, the front-most dinette bench is built against that angled wall, but not so much that it interferes with the movement of the driver seat.

If you want a bigger dinette than we have with a bigger table, more leg room, and bigger benches, the no-slide 2351 and 2552 can accommodate, but you'd have to sacrifice the pantry on that wall.  If we were ordering a new 2351 with no slide out, I think we might have considered doing that.  Either that or build the coat closet that much bigger with two doors, an interior wall, and have adjustable shelves inside the additional closet space for interior storage flexibility.  It could be shelved pantry space, space for clothes, or remove the shelves and make it a space for golf clubs and other tall items.
37  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Disappointed on: August 20, 2017, 09:48:10 pm
Hi magnumiii,

I am sorry to hear of your troubles.  From what I have been reading on this forum, it seems 2017 is a year of mishaps of one kind or another.  I hope you are able to resolve everything.  If you get stumped on a resolution, I suggest you pick Kermit's brain.  He might be able to help via the phone or email.

I have a question for you.  What is model 2552 BC?  What does BC stand for?  Some of your typing has been a bit confusing for me and I wonder if that is all it is.
38  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Got it! Our new 2552 on: August 19, 2017, 07:47:39 am
Congratulations Thomas 4854 with your new 2552.  Cheers
39  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Slide, leak or no leak on: August 18, 2017, 12:02:42 pm


Here is the very rare 2018, Twin Heat Pump,  No-Slide,  2552 on the line 8/16/2017

Thank you Phoenix Cruiser

Maybe someone special-ordered it.

If sales slip due to the economy or whatever, and Phoenix wants to boost sales, they should show both floor plans with and without slide outs and pictures of both on their website for that might boost their sales a bit.  Right now they have more than they can handle.
40  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Slide, leak or no leak on: August 18, 2017, 11:42:58 am
I am thankful that Phoenix offers their slide outs as "options" as their floor plans allow.  This way each PC-ordered owner gets what he wants, and does not get what he doesn't want.

I agree whole heartedly with this statement. Especially since new prospective buyers read this forum in preparation to make their purchase choices.  It is very important that all configuration perspectives are discussed, without harassment, no matter how much in the minority they may be.

41  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Slide, leak or no leak on: August 18, 2017, 10:57:11 am
I am thankful that Phoenix offers their slide outs as "options" as their floor plans allow.  This way each PC-ordered owner gets what he wants, and does not get what he doesn't want.  Unfortunately for the rare few, second thoughts creep in after they have owned their PC a while.  I could say that concerning a few other choices we made 10 years ago with our PC.  Fortunately I was able to correct and/or update them myself along the way.  A few remain for good like the crank-up Winegard antenna and one too many roof vents.  For us with our needs and desires, we would be better in the long run without those two roof-intrusive features.
42  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Slide, leak or no leak on: August 17, 2017, 11:56:41 pm

The PC leak issue is a little unsettling to a prospective buyer.

I was very concerned about the leaking slide issue, as well as the mechanical failure rate on the Lippert-Schwintek side drive system. So much so that I ordered my new 2552 without the slide.

In my case my previous motorhome did not have a slide so I wont miss it on this one.  Many people today feel that they would not be without a slide, but some very well respected RV vendors still do not offer slideouts and they sell more RVs than they can deliver. Examples, LazyDaze Class C and Airstream trailers.

It seems that is because LazyDaze and Airstream want their products to outlast their multiple owners.....and their products do.....and I want our PC to last that long for 35 years, hence no slide out.
43  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2910 T new toilet is in the mail on: August 17, 2017, 04:36:25 pm
(I hope I got that close to right Ron)
Yep! ThumbsUp
44  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: 3-way water-fill valve tip on: August 17, 2017, 08:54:43 am
If you live in the Chicago north-west suburbs, my brother swears by an RV repair shop in Elk Grove Village, IL.  He says they do a great job and charge very little, and are fairly prompt too.  I don't recall the name nor the address but can ask my brother if anyone is interested.
45  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Turning radius of standard 2552 on: August 17, 2017, 08:48:02 am
We have a 2552 and it requires 4 lanes to make a u-turn without backing up.
Interesting.  I will have to pay closer attention how many lanes it takes for us with a 2350.  It's less than 4 lanes.  Maybe it's 3.9 lanes. Smile

Ron Dittmer
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