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46  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Customizations on new 2552 on: July 16, 2017, 06:56:42 am
Hope this doesn't send this too off topic, but I've found these mini flashlights (Blocklites) to be very handy....

https://www.walmart.com/ip/3-Pack-of-Blocklite-6-LED-Mini-Flashlights-w-Energizer-9-Volt-Batteries/39096884

   - Mike
Oh, I really like them.  I wonder how long they last.
47  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2 AC units in a 2552 on: July 15, 2017, 03:52:17 pm
Ah, Thanks Tom For the detailed clarity.  It makes sense.
48  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Customizations on new 2552 on: July 15, 2017, 09:55:15 am
 ThumbsUp  Thanks for sharing that jatrax.  You have applied some creative ideas.  Some will surely have other people contemplating when ordering their PC.

I really should mount a handy flashlight there where you did.  Does Maglite make an LED version?  I love their products, just haven't shopped for a Maglite lately.  My cheap LED Maglite knockoff flashlights all require "knocking" to keep lighting.

Ron Dittmer
49  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2 AC units in a 2552 on: July 15, 2017, 09:29:02 am
Tom,

I think the rear of the motor home is to the right.  If I am correct, renotse should be able to step from the ladder onto the roof in any of the three scenarios, but would immediately need to step over the bathroom vent in the 3rd one.

It appears that he could place as many as six 100-watt solar panels.

Ron Dittmer
50  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Ever Wonder What A No-Slide-Out Dinette Looks Like? on: July 13, 2017, 09:18:14 am
Hi PC Community,

I get this question once in a while so I'm posting the information.
Our PC is a 2007 2350.  CLICK HERE to see many pictures.  Though our PC is a 2007 model year, our no-slide-out arrangement is about the same as a brand new one.  This applies to models 2350, 2351, 2551, 2552, and maybe even some of the longer PCs.

- 71"w x 36"d  our dinette made into a bed
- 81"w x 13"h x 15"d  the overhead cabinet above the dinette
- 88.5"  over-all interior width measured at sink/stove counter-top height from sink wall to dinette wall
- 35.5"  booth width including the padded structure around the cushions
- 28.5"  distance between padded booth structure and the edge of the galley counter top

We ordered our PC with the standard foam cloth cushions shown farther down in the photos website.  We later upgraded to the vinyl cushions with memory foam which is a bit thinner than the standard foam but is much more dense.  The difference is huge for comfort, mobility, and cleanup.  We highly recommend getting the vinyl covered memory foam cushion upgrade.  We thought the cloth would be more comfortable, but that was not the case for us.  The cloth prevented us from shifting our weight when seated and made it very hard to get in and out from the dinette.  We simply slide across on the vinyl cushions today.  The thinner & denser memory foam cushions provide more "comfort room" and is more supporting to my rump.  With the standard foam, if I didn't sit upright, my rump would bottom-out on the plywood beneath.

If special ordering a brand new PC this way, make sure our 2007 information still applies.  I believe most does.  Give the factory the link to this post for them to compare.  The cushions might have changed some.  The base cabinet doors we have are drawers now.  You can request either drawers or doors.  Drawers offer much easier access, having just doors without drawers stores much more.  We also have top access by removing the cushions.  That might be the same today, but maybe not.

Ron Dittmer
51  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Long Did You Originally Plan To Own Your PC? on: July 13, 2017, 08:56:13 am
Fiddling with them when taking photo reminded me of another reason I don't like the awning doors. The hings intrude into the storage area so things need to be arrange to avoid them. When stuff moves during travel, the hings have caught on baskets I use. Then I have to go in through another door and get it unhooked.
Interesting comments.  I never considered that.  Maybe wearing a helmet is the ultimate answer. Smile
52  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: A/C or Thermostat Problems on: July 12, 2017, 07:52:26 am
Hi All,

It does seem that many issues with roof-top a/c units are related to the smart digital thermostat.  People with the mechanical one as shown here, seem to have fewer issues to report.

As for Irene and me, we like the simplicity of our mechanical one.  I've adjusted it many times during the night in the dark with eyes closed while staying in bed under the covers.  We have a digital one at home and are always frustrated making changes to it.  The next time I paint the hallway, I am patching the mounting screw holes and installing the old round Honeywell back in.

I have concluded that I am an old fart.  Smile

Ron Dittmer

53  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Long Did You Originally Plan To Own Your PC? on: July 12, 2017, 07:48:03 am
Like with boats, the perfect size RV is 2-feet bigger than what you have.
Or in my case 1 foot (a 2351).  But then again, maybe not.  I will never know for certain for the opportunity to trade-up isn't ever going to happen here with Irene and me.

I surely agree with you in that many people suffer from twofootitis.
54  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Bedroom TV Signal on: July 11, 2017, 07:49:19 am
It sure is strange that the glass door where the booster is, if left open or closed changes the signal to the rear TV.  shrug
55  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Long Did You Originally Plan To Own Your PC? on: July 11, 2017, 07:32:41 am
I wish the small cabinets over our couch were 3-6 inches deeper.
How deep are they?  What do they measure width and height?

We have no slide out with our dinette.  The cabinets over the dinette inside measurements are 81" wide x 15" deep x 13" tall (measured at the opening).  It spans from the fridge to the B+ left-side cabinet over the driver.  Because we have no pantry, we use them to store our food (the small stuff in $1 store crates) and a few unique cooking items & juice pitchers and such with plenty vacant space remaining for Irene's trip-treasure purchases.  It's those over-head cabinet doors left open that I have to watch out for or I'll hit them but good.

ADDING:  I took a few pictures of our over-the-dinette cabinets.
measurements taken at the opening:  81" wide x 13" tall x 15" deep


Used primarily for a pantry, the black plastic crates keep smaller items in place, nice for easy-out & access too.
56  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Long Did You Originally Plan To Own Your PC? on: July 10, 2017, 10:26:16 pm
Anyone buying new ask if an artic option is available with superior insulation in the walls and roof?
Also would want the upper cabinet doors to lift up like the one above the DVD player, tired of bumping our heads.
And a few more changes.

Hi Randall and Chris,

I know what you mean about bumping your head on open upper cabinet doors.  I do it once or twice per trip.  Top-hinged upper cabinet doors would surely save me some serious pain. On the other hand, or should I say the "Other Head", my wife Irene wouldn't want them because she'd have trouble opening and closing them with her short height.  We had them in our first rig and she struggled every time.

About the Arctic package, I think the best you can do about winter travel and insulation with a PC is to....
- get a small PC
- don't get any slide-outs
- get thermal pane windows
-  minimize your ceiling openings, see if you can manage with the quality ceiling fan placed in the bathroom and let that be your one and only
- if you are short enough, don't get the skylight in the shower
- eliminate the rear window, keep it solid fiberglass.  I have seen it done before.
- set yourself up with a real good quilted cold-air barrier across the backs of the two front seats.  Cold will water-fall over the barrier but it is much reduced compared to doing nothing.

The factory insulation in the floor, walls, and ceiling do a great job if cut and fitted between the studs properly.  Unfortunately you are at the mercy of line worker's level craftsmanship with block foam, and how detailed he feels like that day.  Now if the insulation was injected inside and allowed to expand the proper amount, that would be ideal.  But that process is a real science and each compartment between studs requires it's own amount, hence you won't be seeing that anytime soon at Phoenix.

Our 2007 2350 with no slide out and thermal pane windows is comfortable with outdoor temps at freezing 32.  We are kept warm when we have shore power for we pull out our little space heater and it does quite well.  Our furnace can cook us alive.  We makeshift a front seat barrier when needed but we really need something custom made to seal right and quilted to make a better thermal barrier.  When sleeping at night, we close our pleated white curtain and the furnace keeps the bedroom decently warm without running like crazy.  Of coarse pending how cold it really is outside.

One thing we have not done is "Winter-Camp".  My comments consider high altitude camping freezing at night, or freezing in the fall time of year.  Not ever below 30 degrees that I know of.
57  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: How Long Did You Originally Plan To Own Your PC? on: July 10, 2017, 08:39:40 am
We've had our 3550 for three years.  

Janey  (restless in Michigan)
Hi Janey,

I assume you meant 2350.  Before you actually bought it, how long did the two of you plan to own it?  Or was it not discussed?
58  Main Forum / General Discussion / How Long Did You Originally Plan To Own Your PC? on: July 10, 2017, 08:06:38 am
Hello PC Family,

I thought this question will spark some interesting conversation.

Question #1 - Just before buying your Phoenix Cruiser (your first PC for you on #2 or more), how long did you think it would serve you?
Question #2 - Now that you owned it a while, do you feel the same?
Question #3 - How long have you owned your PC so far?
Question #4 - If you sold your first PC, how long did you own it for?

A few people here are on their second or even third PC.  One person might be buying his fourth PC.  For those people, feel free to answer the 4 questions on each one you've owned.

As for Irene and me, our original plan was to own our PC until we are too old and dangerous to drive it.  That was 10 years ago and we are still on-track.  We both turned 59 this year so we hope we have a long way to go.  Keeping any rig that long seems achievable for us given it is garage-kept, and we've been averaging only 3500 miles a year.  I could see one day far far away selling our brick-&-mortar house of which it might be beneficial to throw our PC into the deal to get our price, given the PC fit's inside the house.....one fancy appliance included.  Smile

Ron Dittmer
59  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Keyless Door Lock on: July 10, 2017, 07:35:09 am
What I don't understand is the second lock or security bolt, whatever they call it.  It uses the same key as the regular lock next to it.  Where is the additional security in the (apparently very common) case of someone who has a master key?
Hi Carol,

All of the older PCs including our PC came with two different keys for the main entry door.  Let me tell you that it was ridiculous working the two different identical looking keys.  Trying to open the door in darkness was so hard that we entered through the van doors if the front curtain wasn't drawn.  I thought I came up with a good idea and made copies so the two keys didn't look or feel the same.  That helped only a tiny little bit.  A few years ago I had a Popeye moment and removed the lock assembly from the door.  I performed some surgery to get the tumblers out and had a locksmith re-key one lock to match the other.  The hassle completely went away.

During that same time I re-keyed the spare tire cover so it matched the other locks around the outside.  Going from 5 keys to 3 keys was one of my better modifications to our PC.  Now our camping key chains have two less keys to fumble through.
60  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 08, 2017, 10:49:09 pm
Welcome Wayne and Karen,

Now the fun begins trying to determine what the perfect PC looks like in your driveway.  There are some used 2350s and a rare 2351 out there, but you will likely need to travel to buy it.  On the main Google search page, type in "Phoenix Cruiser 2350" which will list webpages of them.  Some web pages are "for sale" ads.  You might get lucky and find one for sale within reasonable driving distance from you.  Regardless of the color scheme and options, finding one for sale near by will be a good opportunity for you to walk through what you think is right for you.  Maybe the seller will allow you to test drive it too.

As far as what model year PC to consider, I would limit myself to one no older than a 2004 model year which has the integrated rear spare tire compartment like the new 2017s have.  Some early 2004s have a simple back wall which I feel is just too big of a compromise for structural integrity.

Mid year 2006, Phoenix added a second house battery for a total of 2 house batteries, and also added a whole house inverter.  I personally feel the two batteries for the house is "A Must" for a primitive camping lifestyle.

The 2008 Ford E350 and E450 chassis (The first year with dump truck front grill) is better mechanically than previous years but has the same style dash board as previous years.  The 2009 has the current-day dash board with improved accessory ports and a glove box.  Things kept getting better along the way so the general rule is....."The newer, The better" with regard to the chassis.  At the same time, I wouldn't worry about a 2006 or 2007 E350 PC2350 with 2 house batteries for they are not inferior, just not as capable with regard to the load they can carry.  The only matter is that they are finiky with regards to handling.  Our 2007 PC2350 built on a 2007 E350 chassis required suspension improvements for best handling which I had done and so it is better than an unmodified 2017 E350 PC2350.  So just understand that buying a 2006/2007 could require a few thousand extra dollars for a comfortable driving experience.  You can save a pile of money and make the improvements yourself which many RVers do.

Ron Dittmer
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