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46  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Small stains in gel coat on: July 22, 2016, 10:34:00 am
A scratch remover or polish, each with such small abrasives that restore a "Shine" when complete, might remove the spots.  The trouble is that the shine will likely mismatch the rest of the rig.  Like others say, if you can remove with a cleaner that won't change the shine, that will be best.
47  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: New Phoenix Cruiser You Tube on: July 22, 2016, 09:59:09 am
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48  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: FANTASTIC FAN on: July 22, 2016, 09:43:08 am
Hi Cindy and Dale,

Joe R made a similar reference.  I had wondered if something hardly noticed like a thin twig, lodged itself up there.  The fan will collect debris when the cap is wide open, especially if not running on a higher speed.  It is one reason why I don't like to leave either vent wide open when unattended for extended periods.

I would start troubleshooting by going on the roof and spin the fan by hand.  Make sure it spins freely.  If not, inspect for something like a twig to even something wound around the shaft of the fan, check for clearance between the blade and everything else.

If the blade spins freely, then you can look into the next possibility.  Maybe the switch that turns the fan on/off when opening and closing the cap has malfunctioned.  I am not sure where that switch is located in our fan.  If you can get to it, make sure it is aligned right and clicks on/off when the cap opens and closes.  Maybe the switch is good but got loose and is not activated.

Oops, I see keelhauler just beat me with a similar recommendation about that switch.  Make sure it is working, one way or the other.
49  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: WATER OVERFLOW? on: July 20, 2016, 10:25:20 pm
One less hose to get out and put away.   
We still get the hose out to fill up the fresh tank at the tail end of the dump-station process, though maybe less often than for people who break camp daily.  We tow a vehicle so we break camp most often when moving on to another location.  Not too often do our stays outlast our water supply, requiring us to break camp to dump & replenish and return back to the same primitive site.  Being semi-conservative with water usage, water lasts 3-4 shower each.  If it's a sweaty or dirty visit, showering more frequently requires water sooner.
50  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: WATER OVERFLOW? on: July 20, 2016, 01:12:38 am

I think the last time we hooked up to city water was about 5 or 6 years ago.  I wonder how well our check valves (or whatever they are) work given it has been so long.  Your post reminds me that I really should hook up at home to test and make sure all is well, just in case we hook up on city water a time or two on our next trip.
51  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Questions on: July 19, 2016, 11:10:09 am
Has anyone determined actual CCC for a 2350/1? Not just the sticker CCC.

My data shared is based on a 2007 E350 chassis which the specs from Ford state 7800 pound max for the rear and 3100-4600 for the front.  Keep in-mind I don't have a slide out and the 2008 and newer E350 has a higher weight rating.

I weighed our 2007 2350 last year during a trip when we carried a pile of extra drinking water.  I was worried about over-loading.  Here was the actual weight during the trip.

When the trip was over, I wondered what our rig weighed empty so I weighed it locally.  I had removed everything not considered "original-ish"  I did not remove the two TVs I had added after we bought the rig, and our 3rd captain seat did replace the original barrel chair.  My redesigned kitchen cabinet 3-drawer system is surely heavier than the original 5, and I had added an accumulator tank & wooden literature organizer, and a few other light weight items like the bathroom towel rack for example.  But I did remove everything not nailed down with exception to the dinette cushions & table, and the mattress....they stayed in for the weighing.  I even removed the 30amp cord, 6-ton jack, tire iron, and the door-stored coffee maker.  I also removed myself.  The spare tire remained mounted as I feel it should for the weigh-in.

Here is our weight empty (full tank of gasoline, 1/4 full of propane, no water of any kind in any container including the hot water & accumulator tanks).

Here is the PC sticker for reference.

If you study the weigh-in numbers, interesting is that with my wife and I sitting in the front seats during the trip weigh-in, the front axle weighs only 100 pounds more than with nobody in the seats when the rig is empty.  That means we carry so much weight rear of the rear axle which takes off weight from the front axle.  That is not good.  No wonder why the factory has since relocated the fresh water tank from the rear bumper as far forward as reasonable, and more centered too.
52  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning the rubbery seam material on: July 18, 2016, 11:28:32 am
Here is a though Gail,

Roll up a paper towel tightly and dip it in laundry bleach and let the bleach sit and soak on the stained plastic.  Maybe it will bleach-out the stain.  It would be worth a try if you did not already try it.  If it works well, I would follow up with scratch remover to polish the plastic to a gloss finish to resist re-staining.
53  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: SO JUST HOW FAST DO YOU GO? on: July 18, 2016, 11:19:59 am
It depends on speed limits with towing considerations, but my "personal max" is just under 70 mph, more like in the 67-68 range.

I never put the pedal to the metal but is sure seems like the rig can go a whole lot faster.  And with the suspension upgrades we had done long ago, I think it could handle the speed well.  I just don't want to get "gallons per mile" fuel economy.
54  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning the rubbery seam material on: July 17, 2016, 07:44:49 am


We did see a spray bottle of Purple Power Industrial Strength Cleaner & Degreaser.  Was that the product you recommended?


Yep that is it.
Hopefully Tom's recommendation goes easier for you.
55  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning the rubbery seam material on: July 17, 2016, 02:26:04 am

Hal had the Turtle Wax Scratch Remover in the garage.  We tried it before heading to Walmart.   It did clean it somewhat but would take forever to clean all that seaming inch by inch and lots of elbow grease.

Hi Gail,

How I use the scratch remover on such surfaces makes a huge difference in the amount of effort required and desired results.  I have found it best to use an old cotton tube-sock with the fluffy inside turned out.  I also cut off the elastic part that goes around the leg.  If I use an applicator sponge, a paper towel, a t-shirt rag, or anything else on such surfaces, I work much harder and get less desired results.  I don't know what it is about old tube-socks, but they work best for me doing such detail work.

Admittedly I have a full body paint job on our PC so there is no raw plastic, therefore I am not experienced with unpainted PC materials.  My experience is on other vehicles where once shiny smooth unpainted plastic has faded, stained, and lost it's shine.  Plastic headlight lenses are most popular a project for it, but requires time and effort.  Tail lights and and other smooth plastic is much easier.  Do NOT use on textured plastic or black unpainted bumper covers.

56  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Questions on: July 17, 2016, 01:59:28 am
The 2351 with an extended bed may gain the extension for storage under the bed, we will see.  Ron, I believe you moved your speaker from under the bed.
Ah yes, I did have the factory mount the subwoofer in the front dinette bench.  I forgot about that.

Is the factory still installing a subwoofer under the 2350 rear corner bed, inside the main outdoor storage compartment?
57  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Exterior Paint on: July 17, 2016, 01:22:46 am
My earlier reply about long term reliability issues on a gel coat fiberglass rig is based on THIS motor home we owned for 24 years.  19 of the 24 years, the rig was stored indoors.  The pictures were taken in year 24 when selling the rig.  Pictures don't reveal the condition of the fiberglass, nor how quickly it would streak.  My experience is not with a PC.  Apparently all gelcoat fiberglass rigs are NOT the same.
58  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 2350 Questions on: July 16, 2016, 09:32:27 am
You could of course carry blocks etc but the 2350-1 doesn't have a great deal of storage.

I am surprised to read there is not significant outdoor storage under the rear corner bed of a 2351 with an extended rear corner bed.  I know since our rig was made, the factory relocated the water tank under the bed to improve weight distribution & driving/handling, and also placed the furnace under the bed when getting a slide out, but I would have thought there is still significant outdoor storage for leveling blocks and much more.  I would love to get a good look at a 2351 some day.
59  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning the rubbery seam material on: July 16, 2016, 08:24:52 am
Thank you too, Ron.   Looks like we are going to Walmart.  


Sold at Walmart for under $5.  I think I've seen smaller bottles on the shelves priced less, but it's been a while since I was a-lookin.
60  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Cleaning the rubbery seam material on: July 15, 2016, 05:43:14 pm
If that doesn't work, try scratch remover also sold at Walmart, in their automotive paint care section.
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