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61  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entry Lock on: September 01, 2016, 08:41:37 am
2 Frazzled/Holly,

I thought we carried a lot of keys.  One thing certain, you two and us two don't like all the keys.  And I am sure we are not alone.

One thing that helps us a little is to have a dual key rig like this one to organize the keys a little better.  It's hard to manage so many keys, and then doing so in the dark where a tiny key ring button flashlight helps but adds yet one more thing on the key ring.  At least with this setup, it lets me separate the flashlight from the critical keys.


The convenience of a keyless entry for a house is hard to beat.  You can type in the code and do so in private.  But I am not sure how to feel about the keypad being placed so high on our PC entry door where others can watch me punch in the code from a distance.  I would prefer to have a remote keypad mounted much lower on the PC door at the height the older cars have so my body and arms block the view, much like when at an ATM machine.  We could shield the view with our other hand but then it becomes a two-handed operation which I know my wife and I would surely get sloppy at.

Still I like the idea behind what Denny & Barb did, and it was done very cleanly too.  I don't mean to criticize it one bit.
62  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entry Lock on: August 31, 2016, 11:33:55 pm
I am leaning heavy on getting the main entry door locks key'd alike, and also all the little locks about the rig to match each other.  It involves changing just two locks, one on the main entry door, and the spare tire cover to bring it down from 5 keys to 3 distinct keys for the RV.

Adding that there is the key for the locking hitch pin, the two keys for the padlocks to tamper-proof the tow bar, and then the key for the Jeep Liberty.

It's too many keys.  Taking out 40% from the RV will help.
63  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entry Lock on: August 31, 2016, 02:28:42 pm
Ron,
On the older models, there were two keys to open the entry door on the coach. On the newer PC's, there is one key to open the entry door.

Judi
So you still have the latch-lock and the dead bolt lock, but they use a common key?  Nice!
64  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Entry Lock on: August 31, 2016, 10:09:50 am
Nice work you did there!

As for me, it would be a great help just to have a common key.  We both struggle with the two different keys.  I made copies with each having their own shape, but we still struggle.  I should take the lock off and run to our locksmith to get the tumblers key'd alike.  

The same for the compartments & spare tire cover.  I hate having so many keys.  Three keys would be ideal, ignition/van doors, main entry door, and one for all the rest.

Now I am thinking I have one more project to take care of.
65  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex Pro 1800 Inverter Problem on: August 31, 2016, 09:54:54 am
.....Maybe the F-F connector was bad and not making good connection. Sometimes those wire fingers get out of their little grove and don't connect correctly like that. Well, let's hope this was just a fluke......
Denny
That is what came to mind when I seen the connector burnt.  Though a rare occurrence, it is more common with cheap no-name connectors.  The metal contacts inside can be poorly assembled causing weak spring tension which encourages arcing, eventually the burning Pax/Mike had.

I think Pax/Mike had the right idea in spending more to purchase a name brand connector.  Not just for the hope to be assembled better, but also for better plating on the contacts.  For this particular application, it was smart to go with a brand name.

Whether cheap or name brand, be sure to inspect the contacts inside the connector before using it.  They need to be lined up like little solders in there.
66  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Xantrex Pro 1800 Inverter Problem on: August 30, 2016, 08:51:20 am
Nice research and repair you did there Pax/Mike.  I wonder if Xantrex is pumping more amperage through that connector than it is rated for.  Or like you say, it could be a fluke.  You'll know for sure if you repeat the repair over and over again.  Since nobody else has posted this sort of thing, I lean toward a once-&-done repair.

Good work!
67  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Cleaning the roof on: August 29, 2016, 04:35:27 pm
Soap, water and a brush on a long handle.
For me when it's real dirty, it's....
Soap, water and a brush with no handle so I can scrub it better.  But that does require me being on the roof.

For exceptionally stubborn spots, try a little household bleach.  Place a washcloth-rag over the area and put a splash of bleach onto it and let it soak for a little while.  Then scrub again.

Tree sap is another animal.  When the rig is clean and dry, try some kerosene on a rag.
68  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane on: August 29, 2016, 04:27:24 pm
I wonder if your fridge requires a lot more time and attempts to clear the repeated fault code.  I say this because when I awake our fridge after a long period of no-use, I first have to get the stove burning gas well, then when starting up the fridge, it goes through a number of attempts with faults before what I think is a consistent flow of gas that gets it going and keeps it going.

Our fridge is not inside a slide-out.  I understand that when the fridge "IS" inside a slide-out, it can sometimes be even more finicky because of the long flexible gas line along with the side-discharge exhaust out the wall rather than through the roof.  It may be worth a call to Kermit.  The 2010 model year you own was the first year of the fridge included inside the slide-out for models 2350 and 2551.  Phoenix might have learned something that first year and modified their installation to address the problem.
  At one of the reunions
Now that I think about it more, I seem to recall others with a similar problem back when the 2010 was introduced.  Call Kermit.
At one of the PC reunions I talked to Kermit personally and he was of no help believe it or not.  
Oh, That is too bad.
69  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Refrigerator won't work on Propane on: August 29, 2016, 11:51:58 am
I wonder if your fridge requires a lot more time and attempts to clear the repeated fault code.  I say this because when I awake our fridge after a long period of no-use, I first have to get the stove burning gas well, then when starting up the fridge, it goes through a number of attempts with faults before what I think is a consistent flow of gas that gets it going and keeps it going.

Our fridge is not inside a slide-out.  I understand that when the fridge "IS" inside a slide-out, it can sometimes be even more finicky because of the long flexible gas line along with the side-discharge exhaust out the wall rather than through the roof.  It may be worth a call to Kermit.  The 2010 model year you own was the first year of the fridge included inside the slide-out for models 2350 and 2551.  Phoenix might have learned something that first year and modified their installation to address the problem.

Now that I think about it more, I seem to recall others with a similar problem back when the 2010 was introduced.  Call Kermit.
70  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: About Dinettes, Why A Dinette Is Bigger When Not In A Slideout on: August 27, 2016, 10:32:21 am
Ron, are you sure the slide out is different in the 2350 and 2552? I though the front portion was identical in these two models. The difference in the models being the bedroom and bath/the area back from the partition door.
I understand the slide-out in the 2350 and 2551 is common to each other.  The same applies for the 2351 and 2552 but is roughly one foot bigger.  The extra foot is gained because the over-all rig is that much longer.  That extra foot in the slide-out introduces a pantry with the couch and fridge.  If you want a dinette in a 2351 or 2552 with a slide out, then you sacrifice the pantry to gain the space required as keelhauler had chosen above.  I believe it is possible to get both a dinette and pantry along that wall, but only by eliminating the slide out.  Eliminate the pantry too for an exceptionally large dinette.

Because the slide-out in the 2350 and 2551 is one foot smaller, the fridge with couch is your only option.  If you must have a dinette in a 2350 or 2551, a slide-out is not possible for the dinette won't fit inside it.

Does that clear it up?
71  Main Forum / General Discussion / About Dinettes, Why A Dinette Is Bigger When Not In A Slideout on: August 25, 2016, 10:02:24 am
I get a question now and then about this subject so I am posting this in response.

This is for people considering buying a Phoenix Cruiser with a dinette, whether a used one or ordering a brand new one.

If the dinette is in a slide-out, the two bench seats get closer together which offers less leg room.  The table will also be smaller.  This condition is more severe with older PCs up to around year 2009.

When the dinette is not in a slide-out, it gets bigger by utilizing the angled transition wall between the van and house.  This places the front dinette bench much closer to the front driver or passenger seat.  The distance between benches is further increased because there is no slide-out wall on the opposing side.  That moves the rear bench further toward the back of the rig.  Both front and rear gains, increase the distance between benches to provide more leg room, a larger table, sometimes larger bench seats (or taller backrests), and also makes a longer bed.  The close proximity to the front driver or passenger seat does not affect front seat adjustment.  However it limits reclining travel which is still comfortable as shown in the last picture.

The dinette in a 2351 and a 2552 slide-out is less an issue because the slide-out used in those two models are larger.  One PC owner with a dinette inside a 2552 slide-out, told me when converted into a bed, his measures 65" long x 36" wide.

If you want the biggest dinette with the most leg room, biggest table, and longest conversion bed, then you need to get the dinette in a 2351 or a 2552 without a slide-out.

For reference, here is our 2007 2350 dinette with no slide-out (with original cloth Sagemint Green seat cushions).  A new 2016 2350 no-slide-out dinette will be the same size.  When setup as a bed, it measures 71" long x 36" wide.  The distance between benches (the legroom) is 29.5", with the table measuring about the same.






Note in this picture how the transition wall area is utilized which cuts the corner of the base cushion, and also reduces the backrest.  Strange but true, when we seat 4 people, the person sitting in that position can hardly notice a difference.  When setup as a bed, we place the odd backrest cushion on the side opposite the pillow which is not noticed when sleeping.


This is our driver seat.  It is adjusted all the way back on the track.
Note the limited but not concerning reclined position and the ability to recline it a little more.

72  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC2100 & levelers on: August 23, 2016, 05:57:33 pm
Ron, should I even ask why the solo ladies would need them more than solo men?  Best we not go there.  Wink
Uh.................no comment.   Smile
73  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Ford Transit RV? on: August 23, 2016, 11:44:39 am
And an "AMEN" to that ragoodsp.  I cannot dispute your points, especially about the limitations already on the current 2016 E450 chassis.  It's been edged by the RV industry to it's weight limit for it's entire life span of over 16 years.

I personally feel an F-series is a nice platform for conventional C applications.  Overhang a nice big bed over the hood......a seamless bucket design like Born Free offers.

But one really big show-stopper to many prospective buyers will be the difficulty getting in and out from the driver and passenger seats.  It's no van which offers easy access from inside the house.  We had a little Toyota C&C which was a mini pickup truck.  Going to a van in the PC was a huge improvement for us.  An F-Series is so much bigger than a Toyota, but still with similar challenges with accessibility from the house.
74  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC2100 & levelers on: August 23, 2016, 11:29:08 am
It makes sense to have the fancy levelers for anyone traveling solo.....especially nice for the ladies traveling solo.  Another consideration is that the 4 bags of Lynx blocks & wheel chucks & top caps we carry, do take up storage space.  It's not a problem in our 2350, but could be difficult in other models where storage is limited.  The 2100 does lack storage.  I see some 2100 owners (primarily couples) have resorted to a hitch-mounted storage unit hanging off the back of the motor home which makes it as long as a 2350.  Storing 4 bags of Lynx blocks in a 2100, it might be better to get the fancy levelers.
75  Main Forum / Adventure Anywhere / Re: Phoenix Cruiser as a Party Mobile on: August 22, 2016, 10:12:08 pm
Oh yes, I remember the days when we used our old motor home as a party mobile for kids birthday parties and even a few times as a limousine for our kids & friends to high school dances.  They loved it.
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