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61  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: July 08, 2017, 10:49:09 pm
Welcome Wayne and Karen,

Now the fun begins trying to determine what the perfect PC looks like in your driveway.  There are some used 2350s and a rare 2351 out there, but you will likely need to travel to buy it.  On the main Google search page, type in "Phoenix Cruiser 2350" which will list webpages of them.  Some web pages are "for sale" ads.  You might get lucky and find one for sale within reasonable driving distance from you.  Regardless of the color scheme and options, finding one for sale near by will be a good opportunity for you to walk through what you think is right for you.  Maybe the seller will allow you to test drive it too.

As far as what model year PC to consider, I would limit myself to one no older than a 2004 model year which has the integrated rear spare tire compartment like the new 2017s have.  Some early 2004s have a simple back wall which I feel is just too big of a compromise for structural integrity.

Mid year 2006, Phoenix added a second house battery for a total of 2 house batteries, and also added a whole house inverter.  I personally feel the two batteries for the house is "A Must" for a primitive camping lifestyle.

The 2008 Ford E350 and E450 chassis (The first year with dump truck front grill) is better mechanically than previous years but has the same style dash board as previous years.  The 2009 has the current-day dash board with improved accessory ports and a glove box.  Things kept getting better along the way so the general rule is....."The newer, The better" with regard to the chassis.  At the same time, I wouldn't worry about a 2006 or 2007 E350 PC2350 with 2 house batteries for they are not inferior, just not as capable with regard to the load they can carry.  The only matter is that they are finiky with regards to handling.  Our 2007 PC2350 built on a 2007 E350 chassis required suspension improvements for best handling which I had done and so it is better than an unmodified 2017 E350 PC2350.  So just understand that buying a 2006/2007 could require a few thousand extra dollars for a comfortable driving experience.  You can save a pile of money and make the improvements yourself which many RVers do.

Ron Dittmer
62  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Bedroom TV Signal on: July 08, 2017, 07:34:27 am
Hi Again PC,

Do you have another TV at home that you could temporarily connect to see if the problem persists?  It is remotely possible the problem is inside the TV rather than the coax cable to it.

BTW, You mentioned when closing "The Door", the signal improved.  Which door were you referring to?  The glass windowed cabinet door where the signal booster is?  The main entry door?  Some other door?
63  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Low Cost Macerator Pump Replacement (Saved A Pile Of Money) on: July 06, 2017, 10:12:35 pm
Yes, it's working fine as of our last time out which was last fall.
64  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: 2350 entry step on: July 06, 2017, 10:09:34 pm
Hi Dale and Cindy,

Check the switch that is activated by the bolt attached to the bottom of the door.  If the switch works by hand, then the bolt needs adjusting.

Remember that the power to the step comes from the chassis battery, not the house batteries....no chassis power = no step power.

And I am sure you know about the switch by the entry door to control when the step folds up.

Ron Dittmer
65  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: HOW MANY MILES ON YOUR PC on: July 06, 2017, 10:06:23 pm
10 years and a shameful 30 something.
66  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: To cover or not on: July 06, 2017, 10:05:36 pm
I wonder if Phoenix recommends a particular cover for "Best Fit".
67  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: To cover or not on: July 06, 2017, 09:47:21 am
It does seem that a car port would be ideal if you have a means to build one.  The protection of your expensive PC investment would far outweigh the cost of a carport.  If the carport is permanent, then you've also added value and marketability to your house.
68  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Bedroom TV Signal on: July 05, 2017, 08:51:04 am
Our 2007's signal booster in the cabinet to the right of the main TV is shoe-horned inside it's electric box with cables stressed badly.  If I ever have a problem like PC is describing, the first place I look will be there.  If my trouble is there, the first thing I will do is replace the electric box with a much bigger one.

PC, Maybe one of your stressed coax connections inside your booster box fractured and the weak signal is jumping across it.  A trouble-shooting tip would be to have both TVs on.  Have someone in back watching both TVs at the same time while another person gently bangs on the booster with their fist.  Be sure not to turn it off by accident by pressing the red button.  If the signal is erratic during the light pounding, you problem is there.
69  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Onan question on: June 30, 2017, 02:10:10 pm
Hi Cat House,

My 4000 Onan is 5 years older than yours, but I think they are the same.

The oil drain plug is underneath, just look up from below.

To remove the access panel, there are two levers that you don't easily see.  Depending on your PC, you may have to feel for them.  Turn them 1/4 turn to the right and upward to a horizontal position and the top of the Onan cover then pivots forward.  Then lift up the cover to get it off the bottom groove and then slowly lower it down behind the PC body, down to the ground and out.

The two black cover release levers are shown here.


I don't recall the exact place to add fresh oil but it is easily identifiable once the cover is off.

Some people accidentally loose the cover while driving because they don't properly seat the bottom of it, or latch it correctly.  Make sure it's on right when you are done.  Not just for protection, but also for proper cooling, the cover is a critical piece because it forces incoming air into the right places for cool operation and long term reliability.

70  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: June 30, 2017, 08:10:13 am
Hi MaggieM,

What you own today is model 2351.  I personally love that model.  We have owned our 2350 for 10 years and love it, but a 2351 with all the benefits from the extra foot would make our 2350 better yet.

Now about your concerns with model 2100.  I have never driven one nor even walked through one.  But from what I have learned with our 2350 along with 2100 owner comments, the 2100 is going to be the worst handling (or should I say "the least favored") model of all Phoenix Cruisers.  It comes down to how the house weight and it's contents are distributed between the front and rear tires, and from your question and concerns, you seem to already understand that.

If I were buying a 2100, I think I would do what I had done with our 2007 2350, making the following suspension improvements, all specifically to address handling issues.

- installing a heavy duty rear stabilizer bar (our 2350 had no bar of any kind)
- replacing the stock front stabilizer bar with a heavy duty one
- replacing the shocks with heavy duty ones specifically for a motor home.
- adding a rear trac bar (this eliminates "Tail Wagging")
- replacing the stock steering stabilizer with a heavy duty one specifically for a motor home.

I did not implement my next suggestion into our 2350 but feel it properly addresses the issue with the rear end sagging.  I feel every 2100 would benefit from one or two extra leaf springs for each rear corner to lift the rear to the proper height.  If I increased the height of our 2350, I fear it would not fit in our garage, so we live with our slight rear end sag.  As for you, adding rear air bags as others have done will lift the rear end as well, but I feel increasing the stack of leaf springs is addressing the matter properly and most reliably.

For people who are not mechanically inclined, I also recommend going to the right shop to get the work done.  We took our 2350 to THIS shop, shared to give you an idea of the type of shop I am suggesting.

Once everything is completed, I would then have a front wheel alignment with the rig loaded up with water, gear, food, even added weight to represent people and pets.  A wheel alignment is strongly influenced by the weight of the house and contents, and the distribution of their weight.  You want the rig to represent a typical trip weight (and weight distribution) during the alignment process.  The shop I suggested made a special modification to the front suspension to get it aligned properly.  They installed off-set bushings.  The topic of a front end alignment on a rig with poor weight distribution is it's own discussion.

I see it's your first post.  Welcome!
Ron Dittmer
71  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Air conditioner vibration on: June 26, 2017, 07:30:54 am
My brother had the same thing with his Starflyte motor home.  The hold-down bolts became loose.  Once tightened up, the a/c unit quieted down to the normal amount of extremely loud noise.

It seems to me that tightening them could be a very easy thing to do.  As others mentioned, call Kermit.  He might be able to verbally walk you through the process so you don't breaking something along the way.
72  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: News from "The Mothership" location on: June 24, 2017, 08:28:17 pm
I would imagine that some here could relate to the stories of hard work at low wages and couldn't keep up the pace for too may years, their bodies taking too hard a beating.

As for me, what strung a note was the woman who was skilled in making musical instruments, eventually watching her job go to China.  I lost my job twice to the orient, but it wasn't a manufacturing job, rather an engineering job in product design for the electronics industry.  The first time in 2002, my last year there I spent some of my day training my counterpart in Taiwan.  The second time was in 2015 where projects got started in the USA, then after the "smart" work was done, the projects transferred to Malaysia.  The company I had worked for, at it's peak in 1999 had 160,000 employees, most worked in the USA.  Today it has around 8000 employees, most work outside the USA.  I am grateful to have lasted as long as I did, but it was so hard to watch the many thousands of people before me loose their job.  The main hall to the cafeteria at lunchtime used to be so full of people.  At the end of my time there, you could roll a bowling ball down that hall during the lunch hour and nobody would notice.  The 300 acre campus is sold with most of the company buildings slated to be torn down.  What remains of the company at that site fills just one building today employing about 800 people of which many are from foreign countries here on work visas.  I've been back there doing a little contract work helping the remaining product development skeleton crew.  Walking the halls, I feel like I am in Asia.

You can imagine my feelings about jobs.  I found myself politically similar to most of the people who were interviewed in that article.

Back to the subject matter.  Because of the lack of turnover at Phoenix, it sounds like they do things quite differently than at the other places the article mentions.  It is the privately owned companies that see beyond the penny.
73  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Did you upsize from a class B? on: June 17, 2017, 10:28:36 pm
As a kid, my parents took us 4 kids around the country for the month of August for many years in their 67 Plymouth Fury pulling a little Montgomery Wards tent on wheels.  The 6 of us took up 100% of the trailer including the floor.  I envied people traveling in a Winnebago Brave.

At age 25 with our first baby in 1983, I had to have better so we bought this thing which was 6" shorter than our 1971 Delta 88.  It's officially a class C, but it was smaller than many class Bs.  Brand new it cost us $12,225.  It had no real facilities, basically cabinets, a bed, and a converta-dinette on-wheels.  We bought it without any kind of a/c.  It had a manual transmission and even manual steering.






2006 was the "Last Straw" year.  At age 48, we were on I-90 heading west to the Badlands with temps that reached 117 degrees where my wife Irene almost passed out.  The following year we owned our PC.  When shopping for it, it had to meet a few critical points I list here on top of normal stuff like both kinds of a/c and power steering as some basic examples.

1) NO COMPROMISE...It must fit in our garage like our old rig did
2) Must have a main floor bed for two adults sleeping together
3) Must have a normal dinette that could be converted into a bed as needed if having a guest.

The rest was less critical but it had to be fully self contained.  In the end we got much better than originally envisioned with our 2007 2350.  It is still a castle to us with so much more than we ever had before.

BTW: Nice post Tom.  Thanks for starting it.  I've been enjoying the replies.
Ron Dittmer
74  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: "Ultra Leather" Wall Coverings on: June 17, 2017, 07:43:33 am
Seriously, you might talk to some folks that do vintage restoration.     Patti

I agree with Patti.  But I do wonder if you could expand your search for services.    Call local companies who replace headliners, convertible tops, and limousine interiors.  You might even try companies who offer leather upgrade services for local auto dealerships.  I don't know how popular the practice is today, but years ago, many leather interiors were done locally after the car was delivered to the dealer.  One more service comes to mind are conversion van companies.

Such places will likely offer different colors, vinyls, fabrics, and leathers.  Stay away from bonded leather for that material loves to flake like you have happening today.  Top grain leather is decent and affordable.  Full grain leather is real quality but very expensive.
75  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Slide Awning Stretched on: June 16, 2017, 07:01:03 am
Hi Dave,

With our regular awning, once due to high winds I had to unroll the entire amount of material, then roll it back onto the spool to get rid of the uneven condition you describe.  Maybe that will work for you with your slide out awning.

Ron Dittmer
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