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61  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 22, 2016, 08:24:53 pm
Thank you David Rotelle for the pictures.

It appears there is a carpeted enclosure running through the passenger side under-bed storage.  It must be the drain pipe from the kitchen or bathroom along that wall to get over to the waste tank in back below the floor.  I think it is kept above the floor to protect it from freezing.

Very interesting!

Is the fresh water tank placed under the driver side bed with a little inside storage available?
62  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 22, 2016, 10:31:23 am
This picture is of a "custom" 2910. One slide and twin beds in the rear--just like ours!
Nice Gradygal!
63  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Thanks to forum members. on: December 22, 2016, 10:25:02 am
So it is now "official" for Dave and Nina.  Congratulations you two.  May you have many safe and wonderful travels in the coming years.

Merry Christmas!
Ron Dittmer
64  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 22, 2016, 10:05:01 am
Now that's what I'm talkin about! We would love the arrangement you describe. It should solve the weight issue. If PC made it an optional configuration and not custom the cost should be less than a 2910T or 2910D. Now that would be a fine Christmas present!

Merry Christmas to all!


You might be pleasantly surprised as to Phoenix's charge for a rear captain's bed.  It is surely worth a call to Earl.

And a Merry Christmas to all from me too!
Ron Dittmer
65  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 22, 2016, 12:04:08 am

That surely appears to weigh significantly less than the rear double bed slide out version.

Because my wife and I like to sleep together in the same bed, if we wanted a 2910D/T or 3100 with the rear bedroom like you have there, I would see if Phoenix could make a captains queen bed in the same space, built across the back wall with drawers or cabinet space with shelves under the bed forward, and outdoor storage rearward.  Maybe the fresh water tank could be relocated more forward inside a no-slide dinette bench seat.
66  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 20, 2016, 11:35:28 pm
According to a Michelon {sp} tire dealer I talked in the past, most blow outs on RV vehicles are caused by under inflation and road hazards.
I can believe that.

When I go by the true weight of our rig and then follow Michelin's weight/psi chart for our specific tires, they visually appear under-inflated.  I have a multitude of tire pressure gauges and rule out the few stray readings.  The tires actually look partially flat.  I like to add 5 to 10 additional psi so they don't scare me.  The down-side is that the ride is rougher.  The up-side is that I feel better and our fuel economy is better.

I wish I knew the best way to handle it.  One thing certain.....we have not yet had a blow-out.

Has anyone else had the same experience as me with their tires officially inflated properly, but they look significantly under-inflated?
67  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 20, 2016, 01:39:32 pm
We like our 2910 with twin beds in the rear in place of the slide. It's nice to be able to section the bedroom off from the living area and kitchen.
The twin beds in the rear allow plenty of room to get dressed and easy access to the cabinets above. The night stand between the beds is a great place to put an alarm clock and reading material etc.

We also enjoy the living area in the 2910 it provides a wonderful place to sit and visit with family and friends.
Hi David,

Your PC is the model I was referencing earlier in this subject.  I assume yours would have the least amount of weight on the rear axle given there is no rear slide out and less storage in back to weigh it down so much.

What is under your rear twin beds?  Are both open for personal effects, or is the fresh water tank inside one of them?  If so, which side?  I am curious.

Looking at older brochures, in 2011 Phoenix offered model 2950 which had rear twin beds like you but the over-all length was 29'-8" long which is 14" shorter than yours, but it's wheel base is 10" shorter as well.  Given everything else equal, the shorter the wheel base, the more weight is placed on the rear tires.

If going with the longest of PC models, yours seemingly has the least worries of rear tire over-load.  That is something for nccampguy to ponder.
68  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: PC 3100 - What's not to like? on: December 19, 2016, 08:42:32 pm
Hi nccampguy,

The only potential issue I am aware of with any PC in the "over 30" length is over-loading the 4 rear tires making them susceptible to blow outs.  I assume the most prone model would be the one with a rear bedroom with slide out and all the nice cabinetry weighing down the back end.  It seems the least susceptible model would be rear twin beds with no rear slide out that is offered but not shown on the website.  I believe Phoenix removed the spare tire to help alleviate the condition.  Of coarse there are other influences like a full tank of fresh water, and what you bring from home & where in your PC you store it.  The worst place to put heavy stuff is rear of the rear axle.

When we stopped in at the factory last October for a tour, there was a PC owner full timing in a long unit, I think a 2910T.  He was there having his PC repaired from a very bad rear tire blow out that messed up all kinds of things on his PC including putting a hole in his floor.

Model 2552 and shorter don't seem to have the same concerns.  If I owned an over 30 footer PC, I would consider buying one of those easy-install tire pressure monitoring systems for under $300.  Actually it's not a bad idea on any PC regardless of length.  Bill G. put that into my head recently.

Please don't take my word as "fact" on tire blow-outs on the longest PCs for I am not 100% certain of it.  Do your research.  Ask Phoenix and the PC community.  But if the rear tires are loaded at or modestly beyond their load limit, I would put in the max tire pressure of 80 psi and use a TPS system to monitor tire pressure.  One bad blow out and you'll be kicking yourself over the mess you might have avoided over a measly $300 TPS monitor.

Ron Dittmer
69  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Over head Samsung TV squeaks and rattles on: December 19, 2016, 08:18:23 pm
We have the old style bat wing crank-up rooftop antenna.  I tolerated a banging sound on bad bumps for a number of years until it dawned on me that the antenna could be the cause.  Felt pads under the feet and under the ends of the wings and the banging on bad bumps has been gone since.
70  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Bedding for our PC? on: December 19, 2016, 08:05:16 am
All of us have gone through the odd size "bedding" challenges.  thinking

We have found that the odd shape of the rear corner mattress in our 2350 is best addressed with full size flannel cotton sheets.  We shrink the heck out of them so much that the fitted sheet fits the odd shape quite nicely without a fuss.  The flat sheet also shrinks nicely to work with the bed size.
71  Main Forum / Around the Campfire / Invitation To Attend A Christmas Service "Live" On The Internet on: December 18, 2016, 03:40:15 pm
Hi Everyone,

Some of us in the PC family are Christians who may find themselves alone during the Christmas holiday season, or maybe are alone in the days & weeks leading up to the big celebration day with family.  If you can relate to this, I invite you to attend my church's Christmas service "Live" on the internet by clicking HERE just prior to each time listed below.  If you click in between the listed times, you will be watching one of the earlier recorded Christmas services.

May This Christmas Season Offer A Special Blessing For All The PC Family.
Ron Dittmer

Sunday, December 18 at 5 p.m.
Tuesday, December 20 at 7 p.m.
Wednesday, December 21 at 7 p.m.
Thursday, December 22 at 7 p.m.
Friday, December 23 at 4 & 7 p.m.
Saturday, December 24 at 12, 3, & 5:30 p.m
72  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tank heater power requirements on: December 15, 2016, 10:17:12 pm
Hi 4x4Diversion,

Welcome to our world of power management and the challenges associated with it.  Your particular situation with your fridge is a new dynamic which places you in a very unique category all your own.  I am the last person to discuss the effects of tank heaters on batteries when boon-docking because I have never used our tank heaters in the many years we have owned our PC.  I wonder if they work???

I assume a new PC has the same setup as our 2007 with regards to tank heaters.  Our gray and black waste tanks each have one tank heating pad adhered on the outside bottom.  Afterward the tanks are wrapped with an insulation blanket.  The last time I studied our tanks, I recall seeing a ghost of an outline of the heating pad through the blanket.

Phoenix could tell you the brand and model heaters they install so you can look up their power consumption.  Phoenix might even have the specs handy for you.  Phoenix might install a smaller heating pad for the smaller tank so be sure to ask for the specs on each one installed.

The picture below is an example of what PC waste tank heaters "might" look like which appears to use the same technology used in heated seats.

Ron Dittmer
73  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Over head Samsung TV squeaks and rattles on: December 15, 2016, 01:18:08 pm
As soon as I left the PC plant with my new RV, I noticed a constant and annoying squeak/rattle noise. I finally tracked it down to the TV over my head ( which now has a bracket that allows moving the TV around for different viewing angles). I wadded up a paper towel and stuffed it between the bottom edge of the TV and the wall that the TV is mounted to. This stopped the squeak/rattle -- but I need to come up with a more eloquent solution:)

I am not trying to defend Phoenix on the squeaky TV issue.  I simply wanted to say that you will find in every brand of motor home (PC's included), they rattle in so many places.  If you can resolve the rattle with a stick-on felt pad like the ones I show here, I would place it in the category of "Normal Expectations".  Now if you have something abnormal going on, that would surely be a different story.

I suggest you buy a package of felt pads and use them about your cabin.  I and many others like me did with great success.


These generally come in two popular colors.  Dark brown is the other.
74  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Over head Samsung TV squeaks and rattles on: December 15, 2016, 01:03:11 pm
Hi John,

I agree with you.  Having a dinette without a slide out in a 2350, 2351, 2551, and 2552, the TV mounted directly to that wall without a swivel feature is the way to go for it is already in the right place for viewing.

75  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Tv install bedroom 2351 on: December 14, 2016, 12:33:18 pm

Keep in-mind that our PC is a 2007 model year so there could easily be differences compared to today.

In this picture you can see the side of the TV mounted against the cloth covered box valance.  If I replace the tilting mounting bracket with spacers to set the TV closer to the shirt closet wall, I might be able to set the TV a bit behind the box valance, but not so much that it interferes with viewing the actual TV screen.

Just FYI, Our TV/DVD sticks out beyond the shirt closet, but not beyond the door to it.  It would be great if I can tuck the TV a bit behind the valance and tighter to the closet for improved access to and from the bed for the rare time my wife tries to crawl over me.
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