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 on: Today at 04:52:59 pm 
Started by TomHanlon - Last post by Kyle_Phoenix_Cruiser
I need be on the forum more often, there are great discussions going on every day!

Just wanted to mention to everyone, I can have cards printed with or without any personal information.
Please send me an e-mail to if anyone would like a re-print.

The "pro" side of having personal info printed on the card is this: they can be used as personal business cards - handed out to friends and acquaintances (as well as prospective buyers).  These cards are incredibly inexpensive and come in minimum orders of 250, so having them serve a dual purpose as personal business cards and referral cards will help use more of them.

Happy Camping!


 on: Today at 04:30:51 pm 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by ragoodsp
Update...Ford dealer would like to pull the shafts and send them to a truck dealership that has a shaft balancer.  The only issue is they do not have the capability to do all three together, that bothers me.  I have left a message for Kermit to get his input if doing them separately will solve the problem....I was quoted $450 for the balancing (on top of the road force at $300 and the first balance job at $60) the dollars are adding up with no garrantee! I would hate to throw the towel in and say "I can live with it".  Not sure why the end user (coach owners) should be picking the tab up here? NHWander....please know that any coach over 30 feet is going to have the extended driveline/frame extension.  The stock Ford wheel  bases would not have such extensions.  Thanks

 on: Today at 04:10:59 pm 
Started by Kyle_Phoenix_Cruiser - Last post by Kyle_Phoenix_Cruiser
I wanted to share that I've been trying some different brands of bike racks to see how well the work with the fiberglass rear cap on the Phoenix Cruiser.

Different racks have their own strengths and weaknesses as it relates to holding the bikes & working with the vehicle they are attached to.

So far, my favorite and least expensive option has been the Allen Sport hitch mount rack available on Amazon.
We use the three bike model (photos attached).

Here is a link to Amazon:

Easy to put bikes on & off
Our folding child's trailer can be strapped on
Enough clearance for our handlebars to not scratch rear cap

This style of hitch does not work well with drop-bar (ladies style) bikes
This hitch comes with a hitch-pin that requires a wrench to tighten.
(This is also a strength because this style of hitch pin vibrates & shakes less!)
No built-in locks

Anyone else have experience with bike racks?

 on: Today at 12:39:01 pm 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by ron.dittmer
What models of Cruisers have the 3rd shaft. Is this just a problem of the 2900 and 3100 series or does it also effect the shorter units?
All Ford E350/E450 Phoenix Cruisers with a 138", 158", or 176" wheel base would get an unmodified Ford chassis.  I recall the 2400 model starts with a 176" stock Ford wheel base and actually gets shortened.

I quickly gathered what data I had on-hand, unknown to me which ones get a 3rd drive shaft.  It seems the 29** models would have three for the distance from the trans to the rear differential is getting way out there.  I wonder how the chassis industry handles other large trucks, school buses and all.

Model - Wheel Base
2100 - 138"   (unmodified)
2350 - 158"   (unmodified)
2400 - 164"
2551 - 194"
2552 - 194"
2700 - 192"
2900 - 208"
2910 - 218"
2950 - 208"
3100 - 218"

Back in 2007 when selecting a 2350, I learned that meant getting an unmodified chassis of which I felt some comfort in knowing that.  But honestly it would not have been a deal breaker one bit if it require a wheel base adjustment.

 on: Today at 11:56:22 am 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by NHWanderlust
What models of Cruisers have the 3rd shaft. Is this just a problem of the 2900 and 3100 series or does it also effect the shorter units?

 on: Today at 11:32:26 am 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by skipper
The guy that balanced my driveline was not complimentary of the design citing 3 pieces when it should be 2 and the crazy offset and up/down angles.  I found numerous complaints in several RV forums about driveline vibration issues but the percentage of units with problems is small enough that manufacturers aren't taking notice.  Ford recognizes the problem and has issued a bulletin about maintaining certain angles in the extension process. 

This past weekend, we did a lot of driving off the interstate at slower speeds and I started to notice the vibration again.  It's much, much better than before the re-balancing, but some of it is still there.  If I was going to do it again, I'd pull the 2nd and 3rd shafts and go with a beefier 2 shaft (balanced) driveline assuming the price wasn't outrageous. 

My Ford dealer balanced my tires for free in their first attempt to fix my problem.  This was after I paid a tire store to balance them ($15/tire). $300 seems high.  Ford did a much better job than the tire store.  Once re-balanced, they declared the problem solved!  Not.  The tire store told me that balancing tires on a dual wheel axle requires balancing all 4 tires and then sometimes rotating the outer wheel to smooth out vibration and out of round issues.  I don't know if that is true.

The units as delivered from Ford work fine, but when you add that 3rd shaft any off balance situation that wouldn't be noticed in a non-extended van becomes magnified to the point of being an annoyance not to mention that the vibration is not at all good for the rear transmission and axle bearings and the u joints. 

If you go back to the Ford dealer, see if the service manager will take a ride with you and see if you can get him personally involved.  Meanwhile, I'd call a shop that specializes in driveshafts and ask what they will charge you to replace the 2nd/3rd shaft with a single 5" shaft and balance both pieces together.  I never got a price, but now wish I had. Mark

 on: Today at 08:58:44 am 
Started by skipper - Last post by Doneworking
Bruce, that is incredible! 

You know, I have actually considered several ways to slightly restrict the output from the pump in order to reduce the pressure on the hose.  Easiest would be to restrict by reducing the diameter of the output at the pump going into the hose.  That could be done with a couple of pvc connections of a smaller size at the pump.  Then, the amount of discharge would be reduced thus reducing the pressure to avoid the sprays and as much stretching.  My fear is the backpressure on the pump would not be good for it over time.  I even thought of reducing the voltage at the pump down to 9-10 volts, but that can cause its own problems. 

So, I always make sure the valves are open and the hose is in the disposal receptacle at the dump station before I turn on the pump so as to eliminate ANY restriction or back pressure when I turn it on.   By the way, I carry one of those water pond hoses I mentioned in my earlier post in the spare tire area of the PC.  It fits fine there and if I need it, I got it.  You can buy 3/4 inch and 1" hose for this purpose and the 1" is what you need.

I discharge at home into my sewer clean out trap which is a hundred feet from where the PC can be parked.  I bought a hundred feet of 3/4" heavy duty garden hose at Tractor Supply a few years ago and keep the hose for that purpose......only that purpose of course!   The fact these little pumps will shoot sewage a hundred feet speaks to the pressures involved and gives greater appreciation for leak potential in that little thin hose. 



 on: July 28, 2014, 11:29:45 pm 
Started by Margie - Last post by mcrimm
Margie and Ron. I live 10 miles from the park. We enjoy the heck out of it. We are working seniors thinking about buying a coach as we are close to retirement.

The park has a number of accessible bodies of water but only one paved road. You can see McDonald, Kintla, Bowman and St. Mary lakes out your window. The middle two would take a SUV. Beauty is not only reserved for the park as Flathead County has hundreds of bodies of water.

Will you see a bear?  Probably not. We see lots of deer, elk, goats, bighorn sheep and an occasional moose. You never know - there was an incident a few days ago where a hiker had to shoot a bear. Many hikers carry pepper.......some carry pistols. Montana has friendly gun laws.

Let me know if you have specific questions.


 on: July 28, 2014, 10:47:25 pm 
Started by bobander - Last post by Pax
Nice rig, nice dog, nice campground!  ThumbsUp

   - Mike

 on: July 28, 2014, 10:45:36 pm 
Started by skipper - Last post by Pax

Wow, that IS coincidental!

I've thought about putting a drop cloth of some kind on the ground like you do, but haven't gotten around to it.  When that hose expands and then contracts it picks up pebbles, wood, sand, etc.  Good idea!

Not sure what else you, or anyone can do beyond what you've done.  The obvious ways the hose can fail are exterior materials puncturing it, materials going through the hose puncturing it, age, over pressurization....can't think of anything else besides a bad hose.

Since we use ours exclusively, we now carry repair parts and a spare hose.

    - Mike

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