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 on: July 28, 2014, 08:32:22 pm 
Started by skipper - Last post by Bruce and Sharon
I can hardly believe that our Sani Con hose started squirting waste water out of a pin hole as I was emptying the sewer tanks this morning.  I am very lucky with the timing of this in two ways:

  1.  It was the final dump at the end of our trip so I'll be able to fix it before we go out on a month-long trip in two weeks, and

  2.  the black tank was already cleaned out and the gray tank was in process of emptying so it didn't get stinking nasty.

The pin hole was not caused by the "sheet metal screws" that we've been talking about.  (Those are located just outside of the Sani Con storage bin where the hose comes in from the macerator pump.  Those two little screws a hard to see, but I can feel them almost touching the hose just outside of the storage bin.)

Our pin hole is about 12" inside of the bin and is just touching the ground while the pump is running.  I'm stunned that this happened the day after I had posted a comment on the pin hole issue.  I've always been very careful to protect the hose.  I spread out a drop cloth on the ground under the hose before I start the dump process to keep the hose from bouncing around on the gravel, sticks, glass or whatever that might puncture the hose.  I carefully stow it in the storage bin when the job is done. 

I don't know what else I could do to prevent this sort of possibly catastrophic event.  We've carried an extra hose with us during the year we've owned the rig, but I didn't expect to need it so soon.  I'll add some of the emergency repair items that Paul mentioned to my tool box in anticipation of another event.

--Bruce

 12 
 on: July 28, 2014, 08:24:00 pm 
Started by bobander - Last post by Carol

P.S. You can't actually get to Medicine Mound itself, as it is private property.  Copper Breaks State Park is about 10 miles away though and you can see the mounds clearly from many vantage points.  This is just another shot of the campground.

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 on: July 28, 2014, 08:18:02 pm 
Started by bobander - Last post by Carol

Copper Breaks State Park, North Texas, West of Dallas before you enter the panhandle.  As you drive along 287 you may notice four mounds rising from the plains to the South.  The largest is Medicine Mound, sacred to the Comanche.  The nearby settler town is now a ghost town.  There is a small museum there that can be seen if you contact its elderly caretaker (info available online--I didn't get that far).  The park itself is small and sweet.  Teepee shaped structures protect your site's picnic table from the evening sun.  Nice hikes.  Lake very low now due to drought.  Really nifty little place, though.
P.S. My PC drives like a dream and we are getting along quite nicely!

 14 
 on: July 28, 2014, 07:22:39 pm 
Started by skipper - Last post by Denny & Barb
Question, where are these sheet metal screws that are causing this problem.  Looked on my rig today and didn't find any con the vicinity of the hose.


Denny

 15 
 on: July 28, 2014, 05:16:21 pm 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by ron.dittmer
Is the "drive shaft balance" problem seen  only on Ford frames that have been modified longer and shorter?  Or is the problem also seen on the stock 158" and 176" wheel base chassis.  If it's only noticed on stretched frames, then I would assume something goes wrong during that process.  I think the drive shafts are changed out, so it could be bad drive shafts.  I wonder if Ford supplies them, or maybe supplied by another company who does not have the same quality control as Ford.

For reference, here are the spec's (last revised Oct. 2003) on modifying the E350/E450 wheel base.  https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/Q18.pdf

ADDING:
On page 16, it states as follows which indicates the drive shaft is modified, not replaced.  Whoever is doing that isn't always getting it right.  I wonder what is stated under Bulletin Q-40.  I wonder if you could take the driveshaft in to a specialty shop and have it made right, or replaced with a "right" one.  I understand that drive shafts come off easy.  Tow truck drivers do it right in the middle of the street when they have to.

Driveline System Reassembly
DRIVESHAFT REQUIREMENTS
--- Proper driveshaft modification is necessary to maintain vehicle safety, reliability, and customer
satisfaction.
--- Driveshaft usage is determined based on the vehicles maximum speed, driveshaft length,
driveshaft diameter, and axle ratio.
--- For driveshaft modification, refer to Bulletin Q-14, Guidelines for Modifying Light Truck Drivelines
and Q-40, Econoline Driveline Angles.

 16 
 on: July 28, 2014, 07:37:07 am 
Started by skipper - Last post by Doneworking
Previously to owning the 2013 PC 2350 we had a 2007 Roadtrek 210P and I had lots of problems with the macerator hose.  It was crammed (literally) into a very small storage area and subject to some severe bends and road heat the way it is designed.  I love the design on the PC.  I have fixed pinholes with RV GOOP, by cutting and using PVC flex pipe connections, and hose replacement.  It was such a problem I carried stretch tape, GOOP, connections, etc. for emergency repairs.

By the way:  if you have a hose get really bad when you are on the road, pull into Lowes or Home Depot and buy an outdoor water landscaping pond hose.  Twenty feet long, less than twenty bucks, same ID as the regular macerator hose.   Not nearly as good a hose but flexible and will work.  When I sold our RT, it had this hose on it and it had given us good trouble free use for three years.  The design is similar to the supplied and proper hose but not as flexible and not the quality but in an emergency, works just fine.  Those of us that have been sprayed are very sensitive and mindful about this hose LOL

Paul

 17 
 on: July 28, 2014, 12:56:06 am 
Started by skipper - Last post by Bruce and Sharon
There is an on-line video showing Earl demonstrating the Sani Con system on a newly built 2552.  The hose is now being routed into the middle of the compartment.  That should prevent the pin hole problem on new coaches. 
Maybe you can see the video here:
http://www.phoenixusarv.com/u?id=2014-Phoenix-Cruiser-2552-10622

Our 2552 has those sheet metal screws, so I plan on changing them also.
  --Bruce

 18 
 on: July 27, 2014, 10:29:58 pm 
Started by skipper - Last post by Pax
It seems that Kermit isn't aware of this yet, or hasn't fixed it, but I also encountered a pinhole in the Sanicon hose this trip.  As lghjr has said: "The "bushing" that the hose passes through to storage had two sheet metal screws within a half inch of the hose on mine.  I changed to machine and nylocks."

This is exactly the problem, and I used the same solution.  Gonna give Kermit a call on this one, as it is an easy fix, but horrible problem.

   - Mike

 19 
 on: July 27, 2014, 07:46:22 pm 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by ragoodsp
Update....Got vehicle back from Ford dealer on Friday.  They moved some tires around on the back thinking they might be able to reduce vibration.  I really appreciated their efforts and they did not charge me for their efforts(I am still getting over what they charged me for the road force balancing!).
No real significant change I do not think they want to get into balancing the shafts but guess that is the route we must take.  Ths.

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 on: July 25, 2014, 09:46:52 pm 
Started by Pax - Last post by AMW
Lovely site.  The dogs look happy too.

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