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 on: June 24, 2017, 08:28:17 pm 
Started by Two Hams in a Can - Last post by ron.dittmer
I would imagine that some here could relate to the stories of hard work at low wages and couldn't keep up the pace for too may years, their bodies taking too hard a beating.

As for me, what strung a note was the woman who was skilled in making musical instruments, eventually watching her job go to China.  I lost my job twice to the orient, but it wasn't a manufacturing job, rather an engineering job in product design for the electronics industry.  The first time in 2002, my last year there I spent some of my day training my counterpart in Taiwan.  The second time was in 2015 where projects got started in the USA, then after the "smart" work was done, the projects transferred to Malaysia.  The company I had worked for, at it's peak in 1999 had 160,000 employees, most worked in the USA.  Today it has around 8000 employees, most work outside the USA.  I am grateful to have lasted as long as I did, but it was so hard to watch the many thousands of people before me loose their job.  The main hall to the cafeteria at lunchtime used to be so full of people.  At the end of my time there, you could roll a bowling ball down that hall during the lunch hour and nobody would notice.  The 300 acre campus is sold with most of the company buildings slated to be torn down.  What remains of the company at that site fills just one building today employing about 800 people of which many are from foreign countries here on work visas.  I've been back there doing a little contract work helping the remaining product development skeleton crew.  Walking the halls, I feel like I am in Asia.

You can imagine my feelings about jobs.  I found myself politically similar to most of the people who were interviewed in that article.

Back to the subject matter.  Because of the lack of turnover at Phoenix, it sounds like they do things quite differently than at the other places the article mentions.  It is the privately owned companies that see beyond the penny.

 on: June 24, 2017, 11:54:50 am 
Started by garmp - Last post by 2 Frazzled
Will we be seeing you at Sisters Reunion?
If this question is for me, the probable answer is no. We are still stuck here in Maryland... way longer than we thought we would be. My name is on the list for purchasing bingo prizes for the Reunion but I'll have to purchase and send them out there. I already have a "wish list" on Amazon of potential prizes so I'm ready as far as that goes. I really want to be there and keep nudging John and suggesting we fly out and rent a cabin or something so we can see people but it's really unlikely. Our granddaughter will be back in school by then and we pick her up every day so we usually can't get away during the week during the school year.

We love western Oregon and Washington State so this was the perfect place for us but unless there's a huge, unexpected change in the next two months, we'll still be sitting here.

 on: June 24, 2017, 11:10:38 am 
Started by Pax - Last post by Pax
Well, we settled on a new 2017 Fleetwood Storm 36D.  It's a 36ft 'bunkhouse' floor plan on a Ford chassis and Ford Triton engine (3D walkthrough here:  We had looked at the comparable Thor and Winnebago units and found the Fleetwood fit/finish much better, and have only found three relatively minor issues with it.  So far I am pleased by how well it drives, but will be bringing it up to Hendersons Lineup in Grants Pass to have a Road Performance Assessment accomplished (and definitely a Safe-T-Plus steering stabilizer installed). Paid about 30% below MSRP for the motorhome and have already comfortably entertained 5 adults in it (and comfortably slept 4 adults and one child)

We advertised our PC on RVTrader and RVT (there was some mixup with Aimee so it was never advertised here on the forum) and we had about a dozen serious inquiries (half 'local' and half in other states) It sold in 10 days to the first couple who looked at it .

   - Mike

 on: June 24, 2017, 10:59:55 am 
Started by Two Hams in a Can - Last post by Two Hams in a Can
Putting the political comments in perspective, the main topic of the article makes me glad to be a Phoenix Cruiser USA customer.   Wink

 on: June 23, 2017, 10:50:00 pm 
Started by HenryJ - Last post by HenryJ
We had Mr.s book collection to trip over getting out of front seats and it was not good. I discovered I had nice wire baskets for odds and ends and decided to try one which was rectangular and tall enough to hold things... He now has his notebook, his travel map book and his terrible camping world directory all standing in place by his (passenger) seat. He is happy as a lark to finally have things where they are at hand and usable with no struggle. In the class A he had more space and a pull out desk top to work on. So lot of adjustment but it can work. Just did 2100 miles n had a good trip.

 on: June 23, 2017, 07:44:21 pm 
Started by fandj - Last post by jfcaramagno
I had the same problem a couple of days ago and solved it the way Mike said. That suggests to me that it resulted from something the forum sent to our browsers (Safari for me).

 on: June 23, 2017, 07:04:21 pm 
Started by BlueBlaze - Last post by BlueBlaze
Our main complaint about our 2350 is that there's no comfortable place to just sit in the evening and watch TV.  So I had decided to swap out the dinette this year for a sofa of some kind.  I thought I'd found the solution at Shop4Seats.  The "DeLeon" is a double recliner that said it included side tables and a fold-down center console with a power outlet, USB connections, and even overhead reading lights.  Although the standard width was 70", the page said it also came in a 68" length (which is the longest sofa that will work in the 2350).  Perfect!

So I called and ordered it in the 68" length.  It was a special order that meant a 60 day wait.  But when the lady emailed a copy of the order, it had no mention of the side tables or power features.  So I called back and was told that there was no need to mention it, since that's the way the Deleon comes.  I saved a date-stamped picture of the webpage.

You can imagine where this is going.  65 days later it finally shipped and another week later it arrived.  There were no tray tables or power outlets or reading lamps.

When I called to correct the order, I was told that they had decided to quit offering those options on the 68" length, only the 70" length (does that make any sense?).  And not only that, they had made it RETROACTIVE, even for orders ALREADY IN PROCESS!  They said somehow they must have forgot to call me to notify me of the change, but they would be glad to refund the $300 that they ordinarily charge to UPGRADE their other recliners with those same options!

I said that since this was replacing my dinette, the unit really needed those side tables.  I suggested that they send me the parts for the side tables, and power outlet and I would just install them myself, and we'd write off the reading lamps.  They refused.  I suggested sending back just the arms and center section for them to fix.  They refused.  I finally said I'd just keep it, but not for a measly $300 -- this was a breach of contract and they needed to do better than simply remove the charge for the missing items.  I offered to keep it for a 50% discount, which would still cover their costs.  They also rejected that suggestion out of hand.  But they did offer to take the unit back, for the sales price minus shipping and sales tax, and I wouldn't get my money until it arrived back in California.

But good news!  After escalating it to Management, they finally agreed to give me ALL my money on the day it leaves my property.  We'll see if that actually happens.

 on: June 23, 2017, 01:33:38 pm 
Started by fandj - Last post by RKS
Have been having the same issue with the Pro recently, thought I had to live with it. So thanks fandj for bringing it up and Pax for the easy solution.

 on: June 23, 2017, 11:38:30 am 
Started by fandj - Last post by fandj
Mike, I had tried clearing history previously but this time I went to "Advanced" as you suggested and it appears to have fixed my problem.

I was about ready to chalk this up as "another one of those things that baffle modern man".

Thanks for your help.

 on: June 23, 2017, 10:05:22 am 
Started by fandj - Last post by Pax
It sounds like a similar problem I was having and looks like a need to clear the cache.

If you are using Safari, the only way I've found to fix the problem is to go to settings, scroll down and select Safari, then choose 'clear history and website data'.  It should also work by choosing 'Advanced' in the Safari settings, then 'Website Data', then finding the Phoenix website in the very long list (or just choose 'Remove all website data' at the bottom of the list)

Try running another web browser like Firefox, Chrome, Photon, etc. and see if you still have the problem.

   - Mike

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