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 on: December 01, 2016, 09:57:02 pm 
Started by garmp - Last post by Captain Al
Hi Ron --

The no-slide version of the 2100 has the dinette and sofa reversed from the floor plan shown on the web site.  The primary sleeping area is the jack-knife sofa behind the passenger seat.  The size is bigger than a single bed and slightly narrower than a double bed.  It's cozy for two and works well for us.  When the sofa is folded out there is about 6 inches between the sofa/bed and the dinette -- just enough room to 'skinny' from the wardrobe area to the cab area.  This space is also convenient for getting up in the middle of the night for a 'head call.'

With the sofa folded out there is also a space of 4 inches or so between the bed and the outside wall.  We fill this with a loooong round bolster / pillow that works very well.

We added a hatch under the passenger side window ( approx 15 X 30 ) for access to the space under the sofa from the outside.

The dinette is smaller than on some of the larger units but very comfortable for us and has full storage under each of the seats.  If we have guests it is very convenient to have 2 or 3 at the dinette and the others seated close at hand on the sofa.

Will try to get photos  soon.

 32 
 on: December 01, 2016, 08:55:07 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by ron.dittmer
We have a 2400. Almost anyone we consulted with about the effects on ride height and ride quality recommended adding one or more leafs to the rear spring set instead of air bags. We had a suspension shop add at a leaf to each side four years ago. We have been very happy with the ride and extra 1.5 in of ride height. It was a relatively cheap and simple solution. There was no noticeable effect on handling.
I like that idea.....a lot!

 33 
 on: December 01, 2016, 08:41:24 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by bhgareau
We have a 2400. Almost anyone we consulted with about the effects on ride height and ride quality recommended adding one or more leafs to the rear spring set instead of air bags. We had a suspension shop add at a leaf to each side four years ago. We have been very happy with the ride and extra 1.5 in of ride height. It was a relatively cheap and simple solution. There was no noticeable effect on handling.

 34 
 on: December 01, 2016, 08:08:12 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by RheaNL
We have added the standard air bags to the rear springs on our 2100. The goal was to raise the tail which it did by about 3". As Ron said, the ride is rougher. We feel it the most on sudden rod hazards--pot holes, speed bumps, drain ditches and the like. Not so much on just rough roads like gravel. We live with it because when fully loaded it had serious tail drag.

 35 
 on: December 01, 2016, 07:18:38 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by ron.dittmer
From your comment, the Kelderman system sounds like a hybrid utilizing both leaf springs & air bags within the same system.  I don't know what to think about that.

Someone on another RV forum brought Sulastic Shackles to my attention.  Watch the video on that website.  I really like their simplistic method for reducing road vibration & jolting but wonder how well they really work for motor homes.  I also wonder how well they hold up to the weight of a motor home over the years.  $400 is a bit much for me to perform a multi-year experiment.  I would be willing to try a free pair and report to you all how effective they are  Smile

Anyone from Sulastic reading this?  Smile Smile Smile

 36 
 on: December 01, 2016, 05:42:54 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by randallandchris
Thanks Ron I suspected helper air bags could hurt ride quality.

The Kelderman air bag unhooks a leaf spring shackle from the frame to combine them and first compress the air bag reserving the spring for larger bumps.  No idea if it works as advertised.

 37 
 on: December 01, 2016, 05:13:44 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by ron.dittmer
Hi randallandchris,

Here are my thoughts and experience.

Adding the Firestone style of air bags to the stock suspension will toughen the suspension, making the ride rougher.  I say this from my experience with "added" air bags in our first motor home.  Because that rig had no rear stabilizer bar of any kind and no such bar available, the air bags were used to improve stability.  Putting in lots of air for best stability, the rear lifted 3" and the ride was very rough.  So I would add more air only when conditions called for it.  Otherwise I kept the minimum in for a softer ride.  I was able to adjust it while driving.

"Replacing" the rear leaf spring suspension with a full air ride suspension is designed to improve the quality of the ride, making it more comfortable.  The problem with these types of suspensions is that if there is a failure with an air leak of any kind, the vehicle is incapacitated.

Where I volunteer as a mechanic, our church receives donated hotel shuttle buses with full air ride suspension failures.  When I see one, I always think...."Not For Me".  I much prefer the bullet-proof reliability of the stock leaf spring suspension.

 38 
 on: December 01, 2016, 04:58:18 pm 
Started by randallandchris - Last post by randallandchris
Anyone add or know someone added rear air bags?  Looking at Kelderman 2-stage rear suspension,  seems should work better than just adding helper air bags as the Firestone or others.

https://kelderman.com/shop/2011-e-350-cutaway-2-stage-rear-air-suspension

 39 
 on: December 01, 2016, 03:42:43 pm 
Started by fandj - Last post by Bruce and Sharon
Barry,

Thank you for the info.  Our galley area vent looks just like the vent in the bathroom, except no fan.
I'll take your advice and remove the trim piece to look for wires.

--Bruce

 40 
 on: December 01, 2016, 09:58:41 am 
Started by Pax - Last post by gandalf42
I had PC  install the biggest battery tray they had and originally planned for the Batteries to be housed there. That tray held 4 six volt lead acid batteries when I left PC.  In Yuma I had my Lipo batteries installed and they talked me into putting them under the bunk


Chihuly, Do you have any more details about the battery tray and batteries you had installed?

How much space was there under the bunk?

What was the brand of Lithium charger you had installed that you are unhappy with?

How much difficulty did you have getting PC to make these mods? (So far, I get some push back from Earl of any changes to the electrical system I would like to see on a new 2552.)

Thanks!

..Mike

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