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 on: September 22, 2014, 12:34:34 pm 
Started by Benny820 - Last post by ron.dittmer
Ron ThankYou, the picture really help.My wife likes the fact that the chair swivels and reclines, looks nice. Thanks.      Bev and  Tim. Cheers
You are very welcome!

Just so you know, people with the Euro chair rave over it's comfort.  If you'll never need that seat for a 3rd passenger, you might consider the Euro chair.  It is more friendly with a slide out than without like ours.  The extra floor space created from the slide out, allows the Euro chair to be moved about the cabin.

 72 
 on: September 22, 2014, 10:45:47 am 
Started by Benny820 - Last post by Benny820
Ron ThankYou, the picture really help.My wife likes the fact that the chair swivels and reclines, looks nice. Thanks.      Bev and  Tim. Cheers

 73 
 on: September 22, 2014, 08:23:46 am 
Started by Benny820 - Last post by ron.dittmer
I believe it was in 1984, maybe 1985 when the RV industry was required to supply seat belts for every "official" seating position inside all motor homes.  If you bought a used rig without seat belts, most likely the previous owner removed them.  All PC dinettes, couches, and fixed individual seats have seat belts.

Regarding the later day Euro chair in many newer PCs including model 2350, it is not an "official" seating position.  It is not attached to the motor home for use when the rig is in motion.  It has a simple storing clamp to prevent it from moving around while the rig is driven.  Therefore it does not have seat belts.  If considering any PC with a Euro chair, you will have to replace it with a fixed chair typically mounted on a pedestal, bolted through the floor of the motor home.  If ordering a new PC, just ask the factory to do that for you, I believe at no extra charge.  I do not recommend the low back chair called a barrel chair.  Our rig originally came with that one but I replaced it with a 3rd matching captain seat for improved comfort and safety for a 3rd passenger along with great comfort when parked.  The low back barrel chair is not good for relaxing.

Here are pictures of our 3rd occupant captain seat with seat belts.  The pedestal it mounts to swivels and slides out from the center.

In this orientation I often slide the seat forward, (away from the wall) recline and use the dinette bench seat cushion as an ottoman.


My wife demonstrating one of many positions, here to watch a movie in comfort.
When sliding the seat in this position but into the isle, that passenger can look out the front window much better.  Their feet end up in between the two front seats.


For reference, here is a Euro chair.  Note the base is a metal ring that is not attached to the floor.
This seat is NOT to be used when driving.

 74 
 on: September 21, 2014, 10:13:23 pm 
Started by Benny820 - Last post by BuffaloRose
Welcome to the forum.  Our 2010, 2350 has seat belts in the passenger chair and on the sofa.

Rose

 75 
 on: September 21, 2014, 09:13:35 pm 
Started by jas - Last post by Dave & Julie
The current brochure has the front GAWR as 5000.  The one I downloaded on 1 July 2014 had front GAWR as 4600.  Looks like Phoenix corrected it.

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 on: September 21, 2014, 08:56:40 pm 
Started by jas - Last post by Dave & Julie
I was going by the brochure I downloaded from Phoenix, it says 4600 for the front axle.  So it's really 5000?  That helps. 

 77 
 on: September 21, 2014, 08:05:35 pm 
Started by jas - Last post by jas
Dave  No front axel  5,000 plus rear axel 9,500 =14,600# Ford says 14,500 total  To get 14,500 most of the weight would go
to the front axel  jas

 78 
 on: September 21, 2014, 05:56:57 pm 
Started by jas - Last post by Dave & Julie
That's along the lines that I was thinking.

However, the total vehicle weight can never be more than the sum of the weights on the 2 axles.  When those max weights are added together we get 14100, not 14500.  According the limiting weights on the axles the max weight of the RV could never exceed 14100.  Does that make sense?

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 on: September 21, 2014, 05:23:21 pm 
Started by jas - Last post by jas
Dave  to add weight to the coach ( water, gear or what ever,people) it will change the axel weight. Some will go to the front
and some to the rear axel. Still the total should not go over 14,500 LBS. To max out your coach you have 400# That is what I am talking about along. The tires will be maxed out at 9500# on the rear axel.    jas

 80 
 on: September 21, 2014, 04:40:56 pm 
Started by jas - Last post by Dave & Julie
2910T weights-HELP

I was just looking at the published weight limits again.  There are only 2 ways to get weight onto the RV, either it goes on the rear axle or the front axle.  By adding the published limits of rear & front axle together, we get a total of 14100, not the 14500 that is published.......Front axle GAWR 4600 + rear axle GAWR 9500 = 14100.  I talked to a tech at Ford Motorhome Division and he said all three of those weights are limiting, do-not-exceed weights.

I must be missing something.  I dont see how we can load another 400 lbs onto any axle to get to the GVWR of 14500.  It seems the GVWR should be 14100.  Can anyone help me here? 

Dave
 

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