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 on: August 22, 2015, 02:55:46 pm 
Started by Barry-Sue - Last post by Barry-Sue

You are perfectly correct.  When there is, a defective 30AMP breaker using a 50AMP to 30 AMP converter is the best solution until the 30AMP breaker can be replaced.  However, when there is high power usage (lots of A/C) in a RV park and the 30AMP service is unstable, moving to the 50AMP breaker will probably NOT solve the problem.  When the pedestals are used as they come prewired from the factory, then it is really phase 1 that is overloaded.  Connecting to phase 1 via the 50AMP breaker will not improve your service.  The way to improve service quality is to attach to phase 2.


 on: August 22, 2015, 12:49:28 pm 
Started by Barry-Sue - Last post by Bruce and Sharon
Thank you for posting your experience on the pedestal power problem.

Before this summer I didnt know that a 50 to 30 amp converter was possible.  On our first trip this summer we had just hooked up in a busy RV park with many ac units running when the pedestal 30 amp circuit breaker at our site opened several times within 30 minutes.  The park repairman came by and said that the circuit breaker was probably defective, but he didnt have the time or parts immediately available.  He loaned us his 50 to 30 amp converter (I think it was a standard unit) and we had no more failures during our two-day stay.

After that experience we bought and now bring a converter with us in case this happens again where no help is easily available.  

I think Ive learned from your post that the success of the converter depends on the configuration of the wires in both the pedestal and the converter.  So it seems that if this situation does happen again, well have at best a 50-50 chance that it will work (probably less chance since most parks will be wired like the one in your situation).

The 50 to 30 amp converter would have the same chance to help in a case where the 30 amp circuit in the park was weak for any reason (too many users, etc.) but the 50 amp circuit was good.

Do you think Ive got this right?


 on: August 21, 2015, 05:07:57 pm 
Started by jfcaramagno - Last post by Joseph
I'm going to have to go along with Ron on this. I know the Koni cost more however everything I've read indicates its money well spent.

 on: August 21, 2015, 05:04:43 pm 
Started by dickreid1 - Last post by Joseph
I'm confused on avoiding cruise control downshifts? Why do you avoid them?  Also I don't understand the coasting with fuel injectors off? Are you saying you shut down your engine when traveling down long grades?

 on: August 21, 2015, 03:19:11 pm 
Started by ragoodsp - Last post by SweetWaterSurprise
I've done HID kits in both the headlights and done foglights as well.  I also did a light bar in the bumper opening. 
Another 4X4 owners here

 on: August 21, 2015, 02:26:14 pm 
Started by Barry-Sue - Last post by jfcaramagno
Great idea. I wish I had such an adapter on our recent trip where I found several parks with less than 115v on the 30amp circuit.

 on: August 20, 2015, 07:26:39 pm 
Started by Barry-Sue - Last post by Barry-Sue
This winter the power management system on our PC was shutting down several times an hour because of low incoming voltage.  I contacted the park office and they sent over a repairman to investigate the problem.  He found the 30AMP breaker was burnt and replaced it.  Within an hour, we had another failure.  Not wanting to live with these constant power interruptions, I tried several different things but I kept getting the same results.  Finally, I plugged the PC into the 20 AMP service and the power stabilized and everything ran great but I was limited in what I could run simultaneously.

I had the repairman return and do more testing.  This time he measured the voltages and found the voltage on phase 1 was at 115 VAC and fluctuating but the voltage on phase 2 was at 119VAC and very solid.  The repairman then opened the pedestal and moved the 30AMP breaker to phase 2 and for the next 3 weeks and we had no problems.

This gave me a chance to get a good look inside a typical 50/30/20 AMP RV Service pedestal to see how they were constructed and wired.   The most obvious thing I saw was that the 50AMP service was in fact two separate 50 AMP legs or phases (phase 1 and phase 2).   After doing some research  it appears that the manufacturer for these pedestals typically prewires  all 30 AMP breakers to phase 1 and all 20AMP breakers  to  phase 2.    It seems when the campgrounds receive these pedestals they leave the prewiring as is, i.e. all 30AMP RV's  are connected to phase 1, all 50AMPS RV's are connected to both phase 1 and phase 2 and tent sites are connected to phase 2.  If an RV park has a good electrician they might change this configuration to better balance the load between the two phases.

I now concluded that the best thing for me to do when phase 1 power at 30AMPS is not stable (especially in a crowded park with numerous ACs running) would be to connect to phase 2 power at 30AMPs.  This would be possible if a 50AMP to 30AMP converter were to connect the 50 AMP phase 2 hot  lead to the 30AMP hot lead.  I checked my 50AMP to 30AMP converter to see how it was wired and as I suspected the 30AMP receptacle was connected to phase 1.  This explains why using my adaptor and connecting it to the 50AMP breaker did not improve the electric service.  I looked online to see if I could purchase an adapter that was wired for phase 2 but could not find one.

Unable to find a 50AMP to 30AMP converter that connected to phase 2, I decided to find the parts and make one myself.  The assembly was very simple and straight forward.  The first thing I did was to cut back, cap and secure the black hot lead (phase 1 ) from the 50AMP cable. I then connected the red hot lead (phase 2) from the 50AMP cable to the hot terminal on the 30AMP receptacle.  Then I connected the common (white lead) and the ground (green lead) to the corresponding terminals on the 30AMP receptacle.  The final product has not been tested yet but I am confident it will work just fine.  I will post an update after we return from our next trip.

Here is a list of the parts I used:


 on: August 20, 2015, 12:17:56 pm 
Started by David J. Rotelle - Last post by David J. Rotelle
Sorry I failed to mention the small table. We are blessed here in Lancaster county with several small cabinet makers. My Amish neighbor gave me scraps of Hickory in exchange for a couple half gallons of our Ice Cream.........pretty sweet deal for us........and for him  Wink.

This is where I may have crossed the line and invested too much of my time fooling around with our Motorhome. I first built the entire cabinet and table out of some scrap plywood to get all the difficult angles right. Then I did the best I could to copy it with the Hickory.

I like to work with wood as a hobby but this project was my first with Hickory. I found Hickory to be a very hard wood to work with especially hard to sand.

 on: August 20, 2015, 12:06:02 pm 
Started by David J. Rotelle - Last post by David J. Rotelle
Thank you for your responses I'm glad you like the tile. I got the idea for the tile from some Born Free coaches I saw. Yes it is real tile I purchased at Lowes. I do not have much experience working with tile but this particular (glass) style was a bit tricky to cut. I used a wet tile  saw I have that looks like a small table saw for the larger cuts that worked (pretty well). For the smaller individual pieces around the window I used a drummel tool with a tile blade which worked great.
If you decide to get a glass tile like we used be careful the glass shards are VERY sharp. I had a few cuts on my hand to show for it. Between the cuts from the tile job and the cut on my knuckle from replacing my front shock I'm thinking perhaps I should revisit going into business tinkering with motorhomes.........aside from getting kicked every now and then it's a more hazardous job than milking cows Smile.

As for the Mirror we ordered our Phoenix without it. We also had an outlet installed in the wall there for our coffee maker.............and our fancy lamp Smile.


 on: August 20, 2015, 09:55:22 am 
Started by David J. Rotelle - Last post by BuffaloRose
Loving the backsplash.  Did you have the ugly mirror and was it hard to remove or leave damage?

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