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 on: January 11, 2015, 03:56:49 pm 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by bobojay
We are not yet PC owners, but what ever RV we get next on the Ford Transit chassis, we are going to delete the propane cooktop mostly because we very, very seldom use it. To us it's a waste of space on the countertop, and a big crumb and dust collector.
We figured to have a small drawer or removable lid in the countertop above a small compartment that would hold an induction cooktop. Whatever that won't cook up the convection microwave will, or we won't have it.

But that's just us....

 on: January 11, 2015, 03:36:57 pm 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by CrazyG
Greeting PC'ers...
This the lastest info which we just gleaned...
We went to the Williams Sonoma store in Asheville today, and talked to Mary the sales lady.
She was very knowledgeable, because she is their  'Demo-cook'....
We were more interested in the new 'ceramic' fry pans and purchased some...
NOT the kind you would use on an 'induction' unit...
But, I did ask her if she ever used the induction method of cooking and she said yes, numerous times,,,,She sid she didn't like them, because depending on the pans and the food,
""THEY COOK TO FAST"""  25 to 50% faster than gas or propane....
She said she was old school and hasn't gotten used to them yet...
So there you go...something to put in your pot and let simmer... Cheer
Take Care


 on: January 11, 2015, 02:04:21 pm 
Started by skipper - Last post by Pax
I wonder if any of Earl's videos of PC's being built would show that plumbing.  sad

  - Mike

 on: January 11, 2015, 01:58:26 pm 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by Pax

There is another thread on the forum somewhere regarding induction units you might want to look at as well.

We own a Fagor portable induction unit (1800W) which we purchased on Amazon (from Sur La Table) for about $150 and we love it for many reasons. We can use it inside the rig, outside the rig or even at home (like outside at the bbq area when we need another cooking surface). It doesn't take up much room at all (12x14x2) and so it stores easily.  It does require compatible cookware, but our nesting pots/pans were already compatible.  It does a great job and efficient.  The fan is a bit noisy, and the cooktop will indeed get hot (from the pan of stuff being cooked, obviously)  Since we have 50 amp ability in our rig, the electrical is not an issue.

Even though we love our unit, I don't think we'd change over our gas cooktop to induction.  I cook quite a bit and haven't found the 2-burner gas unit to be a hindrance at all.  We haven't done much dry camping yet, but anticipate doing more and the gas cooktop would be indispensable for us.  If we were never going to dry camp we might consider a change to induction.  Hmmm....then again, one of the things we like best about the PC is that there are many options and ways of using it.  Got power? Use the convection/microwave, put the fridge and water heater on electric. No power? Start the generator.  Don't want to start the generator?  Put the fridge and water heater on gas and use the cooktop. 

I guess this is another one of those 'How would you use your PC' questions.  Everyone is different. If you are considering a portable induction unit, I would advise shopping around.  Although the unit you posted is a bit bigger than the Fagor, there is a huge price difference.

- Mike

 on: January 11, 2015, 01:28:14 pm 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by gradygal
 Last spring, I bought an induction cooktop  from Amazon to take with us on our New England trip. I bought a small table to put it on. I wanted it specifically  to cook lobsters and steamers outside of the PC. It worked wonderfully. The water heated very quickly and we didn't have that seafood smell in the PC. I can't remember what else I might have cooked using it--my mind is usually focused on seafood.

Some of my "stainless" pans worked on it but I did bring along my enamel lobster pot and I bought a smaller enamel pot along the way (for the steamers).

We used that cooktop more than we used the stove.


 on: January 11, 2015, 01:23:15 pm 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by 2 Frazzled
Tony, I agree about the technology. The conduction cooktops are extremely energy efficient compared to standard electric burners. I'm not sure how electric compares to propane on the green energy scale.

I'd like to comment on the perceived shortcomings of the Phoenix cook top. We've been full time in our Phoenix for almost eighteen months now and have no problem preparing food on the cook top. We have two adults full time, an additional child for up to six weeks at a time, and occasionally one or two extra adults. We don't have the space of a commercial kitchen but you quickly adapt to what you've got. With two burners and a convection microwave, we prepare full, healthy meals on a regular basis and pulled off a full Thanksgiving dinner this past November. The few times we do resort to heat and eat, it is because we are too busy playing to cook dinner. We had a four burner propane range at our old house. I can't remember ever using four burners at once. If we even used three, it was few and far between. If we need to prep food for a large crew, we'll plan it out to use our crock pot and outdoor grill.

As for melting knobs, so far so good. John put the large pan on the small burner once and our label got a few little bubbles but he is now trained to put large pans on the large burner (more stable that way anyhow). When we use our diffuser on the small burner, we make sure it does not overhang the knobs.

 on: January 11, 2015, 01:02:36 pm 
Started by skipper - Last post by 2 Frazzled
We bought silicone "rescue tape" at the Hershey show a few years back and intended to wrap all plumbing connections with it to prevent that jiggling loose problem. We haven't gotten around to it and luckily haven't had any plumbing leaks but you may want to consider it since you are working on the connections anyhow. I've been told silicone tape is sold at major hardware stores and I'm sure you can find it online. You stretch it out and wrap with it. It merges/bonds to itself and does not come off until you cut it off. I've used it successfully on wires that came loose and were hanging under the steps.

 on: January 11, 2015, 12:20:07 pm 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by CrazyG
Greetings 2Frazzled;

Your right about the 'iron' part....cast iron should work, ""BUT"" not all
stainless steels are none magnetic....It depends...
My wife has got some Wolfgang Puck  SS pots, that are magnetic...
So I don't know how to respond to that exactly...
We don't have an induction unit just yet, but I thought for the space this particular unit
consumed it might be interesting for campers cooking out side or something...
My understanding is that it cooks much faster...and it's safe in the respect that you can touch the cooking surface without burning yourself...
This technology stuff is just leaving me behind, and I continually have to scramble just to keep up with what is going on.. Help
I'd be happy to hear from anybody else that knows more about this technology
Take Care

 on: January 11, 2015, 11:53:59 am 
Started by skipper - Last post by Carol
I've been dealing with a leak issue for a few months now and it has been at the connections for the shower faucets.  In the 2350/2351, there is a small panel on the back of the shower wall and next to the bed, making it somewhat accessible, although to do any work on it, the mattress and board underneath has to be removed.  Not sure what your model is like but I'm sure others more familiar can direct you if there is an easy way to get to those connections.  I'd say it sure is worth looking for.  I've had the connections back there tightened up three times now, and it seems that they just keep jiggling loose again after driving a bit.  Two repairmen have been involved so far, and both have commented that the setup seems awkward, with more connections than should be necessary.  Taking it in again in a couple of weeks, and they may rebuild the plumbing in that area to simplify it and hopefully fix the issue once and for all.  Good luck and I hope you find your answer soon.  Leaks are a pain!

 on: January 11, 2015, 11:42:38 am 
Started by CrazyG - Last post by 2 Frazzled
Tony, keep in mind that you need compatible pains for induction cooking. Cast iron works - stainless steel doesn't. A simple test is using a magnet - if it doesn't stick to the bottom of your pan, that pan won't work on the induction cook top. We saw a cool demo at The Solar Decathlon in DC several years ago. The students had cut a cast iron pan in half, set it on the activated cooktop then dropped an egg so half was on the pan and half was on the bare cook top. The egg on the pan cooked immediately while the part on the cooktop itself sat there cool and raw.

I've read where people use an induction cooktop in their RV to save on propane costs when hooked up to power but the price of that cook top would pay for a lot of propane. Not to mention the cost of new pans if yours aren't compatible.

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