Pages: [1] 2   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: traveling I 70 west of Denver  (Read 724 times)
Jan and Dick
Full Member
***

Helpful Rating: 0
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 5/23/12
Model: 2551
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cafe
ExtColor: cafe
Location: Indiana
________
Posts: 12


View Profile
« on: June 10, 2014, 10:41:16 pm »

I am planning a trip to Arizona and Utah in September driving our 2551 with a car in tow.  I am thinking of returning to Indiana via I 70 from Utah.  I am a little worried about the mountain driving.  Will the 2551 do well in the mountain passes considering the 12000 ft. height.  I am inexperienced in mountain driving and this is a little intimidating. I would like to hear from any of you that have used this route and your experiences.
Logged
Denny & Barb
Hero Member
*****

Helpful Rating: 26
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 4-08-2012
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cafe
ExtColor: cafe
Location: Wisc. (Wittenberg.. N. Central)
________
Posts: 199


Medicine Bow, Wy.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2014, 08:16:41 am »

Jan and Dick, Barb and I just did I-70 in April, returning to Wisconsin's.  My only fears were snowy roads. But it was a beautiful sunny winter day up at the Vail Pass.  Was many many feet of snow there yet.  The Vail rest area was completely covered by with snow, but it was open and being used.  Almost tunnels to get to the door. ☺
But your worried the the V-10 won't be up to the climb.  We don't tow, so I don't know how that effects it, but by itself, that engine pretty much plays with this coach.  We love mountains, so we are always ether going up or down somewhere.  Many inclines much worse than the interstate system. Never a concern.  Have plenty of power to spare.  They put this engine in 30+ class A's, and you know they tow..  Would say you will be remarkably surprised.  Let us know, when you return.  That's a beautiful drive.
Logged

Your Word or Lord is a light to my feet and a lantern to my path...  Ps 119
Barry-Sue
SuperHero Member
******

Helpful Rating: 319
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 10/17/11
Model: 2551
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: Cherry
ExtColor: Classic Umber
Location: Michigan
________
Posts: 764


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2014, 09:58:18 am »

Jan and Dick

We took our 2008 2350 plus toad on the same route in 2010 back to Michigan.  I can also verify that I was not an experienced mountain driver before that trip either.  I found the V10 engine had no problems with the altitude or the gas (octane) in the area.  There was no noticeable loss of power or performance.  We have a 2012 2551 now and I would say the 2551 would perform as well if not better than the 2350.

One thing I learned about driving in the mountains is to keep your speed up.  Don't wait for a downshift before applying additional throttle. 


Barry
Logged

Barry and Sue 
Current   2012 2551 w/Slide
Previous 2008 2350 w/Slide
randallandchris
Full Member
***

Helpful Rating: 5
________
OwnPC: No
NewUsed: New
Model: None
Slide: No
Location: MI and FL
________
Posts: 26



View Profile
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 10:16:05 am »

The 3rd - 4th week of SEP at Rocky Mtn NP could just be the highlight of your trip.  Just be back to I70 east of Denver early OCT.  Great camping in Denver at Cherry Creek SP.
Logged
ron.dittmer
SuperHero Member
PCPC
*******

Helpful Rating: 180
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: June 2007
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2007
Slide: No
IntColor: Cherry&Green
ExtColor: FullBody Gray
Location: Dundee, IL
________
Posts: 1991



View Profile WWW
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 11:27:07 am »

J & D,

Absolutely "NO WORRIES" with your rig and tow vehicle as long as your tow vehicle is equipped with proper tow brakes.  Tow brakes are the law anyway.  After doing it once, you'll have full confidence.  You have an E450 chassis with V10 engine, on one of the lightest motor homes.  You are better equipped than 99% of all other class B+ and C motor homes.  Just enjoy your travels at any elevation, any paved surface grade before you.

Just a tip on scenery.....
Going from Grand Junction CO to Moab UT, be sure to take the direct route scenic byway that follows the Colorado river, not the right-angled interstate route.  Many pictures of our PC were taken along that road, all in a matter of a couple hours.  It's not hilly, just a fairly slow but steady elevation change following the Colorado river.

Reading Tom's comment below me here....he offers good advise on how to handle steeper grades.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 11:35:22 am by ron.dittmer » Logged

Ron Dittmer (wife Irene) 2007 Model 2350 Without A Slideout
Our Rig Is Available For Viewing Any Time Of Year In Dundee, IL
Stored At Home In Our Heated Garage (Well-Lit & Warm Comfort In Winter)
TomHanlon
SuperHero Member
PCPC
*******

Helpful Rating: 190
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 11/11/11
Model: 2552
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: Cherry
ExtColor: full paint Cafe
Location: Maryland
________
Posts: 1086



View Profile
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 11:27:52 am »

Going up hill will not be the problem. You may end up going up slowly, so don't rush it. The truck do this all the time.
The problem in the mountains is going down hill. Use your tow-haul and down shift. If you must brake, hit them hard and slow down below the speed you want to be going. Then let off them so they can cool down.Do NOT ride the brakes, as they will over heat and can catch fire.

If you do this on I70 you will not have any problems. Enjoy the senery and the Eisenhower  tunnel.
Logged

Tom Hanlon
Current PC 2012 2552 Full paint Cafe
First PC 2010 2350 Full paint Umbra
bobander
SuperHero Member
******

Helpful Rating: 133
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: April 2010
Model: 2551
ModelYear: 2010
Slide: Yes
IntColor: Classic Umber
ExtColor: Classic Umber
Location: N. California
________
Posts: 357



View Profile
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 11:54:32 am »

They put this engine in 30+ class A's, and you know they tow..  

At the risk of appearing rude and a know it all, and getting some "disagrees", I offer the following:

The V10 in the F53 chassis class A's has 3 valve heads where the E450/350 chassis has 2 valve heads.  They say this is because of the limited room in the E450/350.

The difference is 362hp and 457lb-ft torque in the 3 valve vs 305hp and 420lb-ft torque in the 2 valve, so the class A's have more power for the larger package.

Just trying to be helpful,
Bob A
Logged

2010  PC 2551
ron.dittmer
SuperHero Member
PCPC
*******

Helpful Rating: 180
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: June 2007
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2007
Slide: No
IntColor: Cherry&Green
ExtColor: FullBody Gray
Location: Dundee, IL
________
Posts: 1991



View Profile WWW
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 02:00:09 pm »

bobander, you get a pile of disagrees from me....No I take them back.  Smile  How could I disagree with "facts" anyway?
Logged

Ron Dittmer (wife Irene) 2007 Model 2350 Without A Slideout
Our Rig Is Available For Viewing Any Time Of Year In Dundee, IL
Stored At Home In Our Heated Garage (Well-Lit & Warm Comfort In Winter)
Denny & Barb
Hero Member
*****

Helpful Rating: 26
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 4-08-2012
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cafe
ExtColor: cafe
Location: Wisc. (Wittenberg.. N. Central)
________
Posts: 199


Medicine Bow, Wy.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 05:33:57 pm »

Bobander, I would also like to disagree and / or agree, but can't find any info except from another forum.😟

Can you point me to a legit source of info, where you gathered this?
Logged

Your Word or Lord is a light to my feet and a lantern to my path...  Ps 119
bobander
SuperHero Member
******

Helpful Rating: 133
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: April 2010
Model: 2551
ModelYear: 2010
Slide: Yes
IntColor: Classic Umber
ExtColor: Classic Umber
Location: N. California
________
Posts: 357



View Profile
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 06:29:32 pm »

Bobander, I would also like to disagree and / or agree, but can't find any info except from another forum.😟

Can you point me to a legit source of info, where you gathered this?

Here are links to the 2014 Ford brochures for the Class A and C motorhome chassis, it has been this way for many years not just 2014.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2014/Class_C_brochure-2014_LoRes.pdf

http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2014/Class_A_brochure-2014_LoRes.pdf
Logged

2010  PC 2551
Denny & Barb
Hero Member
*****

Helpful Rating: 26
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 4-08-2012
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cafe
ExtColor: cafe
Location: Wisc. (Wittenberg.. N. Central)
________
Posts: 199


Medicine Bow, Wy.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 06:52:00 pm »

Thanks... I have to be a believer☺
Logged

Your Word or Lord is a light to my feet and a lantern to my path...  Ps 119
Denny & Barb
Hero Member
*****

Helpful Rating: 26
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 4-08-2012
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cafe
ExtColor: cafe
Location: Wisc. (Wittenberg.. N. Central)
________
Posts: 199


Medicine Bow, Wy.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 07:18:30 pm »

My bro who is a mechanic for Ford says its the torque that makes the difference, in power, hill climbing.  He says HP figures are so extorted.  I don't know! But maybe something to Google?  The torque figures 420 vs. 457 is not seemingly to be a large difference.  Don't know.
Logged

Your Word or Lord is a light to my feet and a lantern to my path...  Ps 119
Denny & Barb
Hero Member
*****

Helpful Rating: 26
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: 4-08-2012
Model: 2350 Ford
ModelYear: 2012
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cafe
ExtColor: cafe
Location: Wisc. (Wittenberg.. N. Central)
________
Posts: 199


Medicine Bow, Wy.


View Profile WWW
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2014, 08:40:16 am »

Jan and Dick, sorry we got off your question.  Is there then anyone out there that pulled a toed over some interstate highway mountain passes?
Logged

Your Word or Lord is a light to my feet and a lantern to my path...  Ps 119
gradygal
SuperHero Member
******

Helpful Rating: 89
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: March 2012
Model: 2910
ModelYear: 2013
Slide: Yes
IntColor: cherry
ExtColor: slate gray full body paint
Location: Florida
________
Posts: 630


our 3rd PC--Custom 2910


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2014, 09:09:17 am »

Last year, we pulled our toad over Monarch Pass in Colorado which was 11,312 ft. The toad was a Honda Fit so very light. We climbed with no problems, although we were very slow. That was our first time mountain driving--we were concerned when we started out but all was good. You shouldn't have any problems.

Judi
« Last Edit: June 13, 2014, 09:16:04 am by gradygal » Logged

Judi and George Nicholson
Punta Gorda FL
bobander
SuperHero Member
******

Helpful Rating: 133
________
OwnPC: Yes
NewUsed: New
PurchDate: April 2010
Model: 2551
ModelYear: 2010
Slide: Yes
IntColor: Classic Umber
ExtColor: Classic Umber
Location: N. California
________
Posts: 357



View Profile
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 01:04:03 pm »

Jan and Dick, sorry we got off your question.  Is there then anyone out there that pulled a toed over some interstate highway mountain passes?

Good job getting back to subject.

We have 30,000 miles on our 2010 2551 towing a 4,000 pound Wrangler throughout the western states.  Over too many mountain passes to count or remember the elevations.  Never a problem, handles the tight curves fine and power to get over all the passes.  On the steepest climbs you will slow down, but all the other RVs and trucks are as well.  Just be sure to engage the "tow/haul" feature as it will save your brakes on the down hill, it works very well.

I now have so much confidence in the PC that I don't think about the route, just go and enjoy.

Bob A
Logged

2010  PC 2551
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
Print
 
Jump to: