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« on: October 10, 2010, 08:58:28 am »

If buying a Phoenix Cruiser for 3 travelers, consider requesting a 3rd captain seat for the safety and comfort of the 3rd person.  He can look through the windshield by simply adjusting forward into the isle and then swivel at an angle toward the windshield, then recline as needed to look out between the people in front.  It's also great for relaxing and watching TV as shown below.

For you older model PC owners with a barrel chair, this is a very nice upgrade.  We ordered our 2007 model seat direct from the OEM supplier Paul's Seating Inc. at a cost of $481.00 with shipping considered.  It is an exact match to our two front seats, model Lexus as stated on Paul's website.

The replies below is about how it all unfolded.




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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 10:06:46 am »

That is a good decision! You certainly will be more comfortable.

I find the barrel chair in the 2350 very uncomfortable. We may end up following your lead (again).

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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 10:35:28 am »

Hi Ron.

Please let em now what Kermit tells you.
If you do get a Captain's chair, let me know which model you chose.

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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2010, 12:28:43 am »

Our chair design is called Lexus CLICK HERE, which is identical to our two front chairs.

I will let you all know what I find out from Kermit, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 04:15:51 am »

will two of them fit in a PC 2400  ?
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2010, 02:12:01 am »

If I have mastered this site, I will post pictures of our 2350 with the third Captains chair.  The metal loops are steel fold downs for a baby seat tether.
    Bob
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 12:19:31 pm »

I talked with the right person at Phoenix USA today, Carol.  I needed to give her either my Chassis or Conversion VIN number.  With that, she was able to look up what was installed in my motor home, to provide the right data for Pauls Seating.

seat material to match my Lexus leather captain chair (the type in my 2007 2350, in color Morning Mist Gray)
- leather seating surface:  Luxor ST Alabaster
- vinyl balance material:  Astro SS Alabaster

pedistal mount
- I can reuse my barrel chair pedistal.  Be sure to tell Paul it will be a 3rd seat, pedistal mounted, so he mounts the seat tracks closer.  Paul told me that means the tracks are mounted at 8x11.

arm rests
- be sure to specify which arm rests you want, left, right, neither, or both.  I am getting both armrests, costing $375 plus shipping.  Armrests are only $10 a piece.

I called Paul and placed my order.  He said he'll have a seat made up by next week, and ship thereafter.  Payment due in the form of a check, after I received the seat and am pleased with it.

To Be Continued.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2010, 12:26:16 pm »

The metal loops are steel fold downs for a baby seat tether.  Bob
Bob,

Are the tethers a separate metal part that is slipped under the pedistal?  Please clarify what that thing is, how it mounts to the pedistal, and who supplied it?  We don't have a need to attach a baby seat yet, but we anticipate grand children one day, and want to be prepared for it.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2010, 03:23:46 pm »

The tether anchors are made by Secure-tite and are called Wire Ring Anchor Points.  They have a 900 lb. capacity.  They are not bolted to the pedestal but forward and aft of the pedestal and secured to the frame below the floor.  I believe we purchased them at Lowes.  We provided them to PC and they installed them.  The reason for two is whether the baby seat is mounted in the forward facing or rear facing position.  When they are young you need to have the seat rear facing.  Hope this helps.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2010, 08:28:50 pm »

Got it Bob, Thanks!
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2010, 10:52:00 pm »

Yikes Bob & Ron!!

On the grandchildren thing. We are in our 40's with teenager's and no way are ready for that!! Yikes, Yikes, Yikes.  However, I do like when Grandma and Gramps take the boys for the weekend..It really is a sad thing that I have to be in my forties to realize that my parents are wise!!!  That barrel chair we are however ready to get rid of.  Not too comfy. Ron, please keep up us to date on your progress and thoughts.  As Captain Kirk said, thanks for going boldly where no one has gone before. If this works for you, I think this is a good loss of dollars for me(lord knows it is not an investment)......Damn, this motorhome thing is expensive..........

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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2010, 12:02:58 pm »

Paul emailed me today.  He is out of gray materail but has the green.  Checking to see if he can get more gray.
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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2010, 12:20:16 pm »

Ron,

Will the chair you ordered mount directly on the existing seat slide/swivel?
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2010, 09:35:48 pm »

Carol at Phoenix USA and Paul agreed, I can reuse the swivelling pedistal.  The seat tracks that adjust the seat forward and backward will be included with the new seat.  I assume the seat tracks from my barrel chair are not transferable for some reason.  The tracks are mounted closer together than what is normally done up front in the cab.  This so the seat will mate properly to the pedistal.

I'll take some pictures along the way so others get a real good idea what to expect if they consider upgrading.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2010, 06:15:42 am »

Thanks Ron.

This is getting interestinger and interestinger.

I did a few things to the Alpine along these lines. The Driver's seat was 6-way but didn't swivel. Using some extruded aluminum stock from my "Squirreled away" stuff I fabricated a rail on an old swivel base for it. The power seat went low enough to compensate for the 1-1/2" height increase of the swivel/rail base I made and it had a manual slide that allowed me to move the entire seat another 12 inches, which was quite nice when I wanted to use the Driver's seat as a lounge chair in the salon.

I love to "tinker".

We have cloth seats in the cab of our 2350 and they've gotten a bit worn and faded. I just might upgrade them to Gray "Ultra-Leather" too.

Keep us posted and include a few pics if you can.
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