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« on: April 07, 2009, 05:05:56 PM »

When we were shopping for a Phoenix Cruiser, we didn't want a slide out, but couldn't find any pictures of a PC with the fixed dinette.  We ended up visiting the factory to see one.  For anyone researching a PC to purchase, you may find this of interest.  Also for the curious.

Here is our 2007 model 2350 with a fixed dinette.

Interior Colors & Materials
- Cherry Cabinet Option
- Sage Mint Green
- Leather Barrel Chair
- Cloth Dinette Bench Seats
- Special Requested. Gray Captain Chairs

Note the extra large cabinets over the dinette.  They really hold a lot.  We store food and cook ware with plenty of extra room left over for other miscellaneous stuff.
For bench storage, you have both cushion and isle door access.
We requested the sound system subwoofer be mounted in the forward bench, as far from the rear corner bed as possible.  This improved the utilization of the outdoor storage under the rear corner bed, and also kept the noise level down when one person is watching TV and the other is taking a nap.


As you all know, the barrel chair pivots and moves forward and backward.  It can be positioned to utilize the dining table without too much of a reach.




This shows the power driver seat, set as far back as the seat track will allow.  As you can see, there is a little more reclining capability remaining, but not a full recline.  You would have to move the seat forward to recline it farther back.


The dinette allows people traveling in the back, to look out the window.  While I drive, my wife loves to set up her lap top computer a drink & a snack there to play computer games or manipulate vacation pictures & videos, all done while watching the world go by.  Not possible with a slide out couch.


If you don't need the extra floor space, and don't need the slide-out bed for two more people, this is worth consideration.

Any PC can be special ordered with a dinette in the slideout instead of the couch, but the benches are closer together making less leg room, and the table is smaller.  This done to accomodate the slideout wall thickness.  We felt it to be extremely confining, sitting in one at the factory.

One more point to make here.  If you are a family of 3 (or two with dogs that can climb a little), it might be worth considering the "UN-Documented" option of getting the single bed located over the front cab.  This keeps your living area clutter-free for early risers to get around without disturbing others still asleep.  The main TV then gets mounted by the barrel chair.
Don Keller of www.eastacresrv.com worked with the factory to exclusively offer that.  It would be interesting to see pictures of that.

ADDING 6/2012:  Just thought I would include a change we made 1.5 years ago.  We replaced the barrel chair with a 3rd matching captain seat.  We utilize that seat so much more than the barrel chair.  It is very nice to have one nice seat to kick back and relax in.  Two would be better yet, but then we'd be sacrificing other valuable features.

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2009, 02:23:32 PM »

Ron, I loved the pictures of your dinette and the extra storage cabinets on top.  Sure wish I had seen this before ordering our sofa with the slideout.  We picked our motorhome up on October 31st and while it is beautiful, I really don't like the slideout or that little sofa.  This idea would have been much more useful for us.

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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2010, 11:19:15 PM »

Margie,

I hear you and don't dispute your conclusion, especially when your PC is planned around the needs of two people.  We are still very happy with our choice after 3 years of ownership.  We would special order it the same exact way.
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 01:07:36 PM »

Ron, you got me thinking! I like the extra storage space.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 02:58:48 PM »

Richard and Jackie,
We had a 2010 2350 Sprinter with no slide. We traded it in this year for a 2011 2551 with no slide. There were only two reasons that we traded:
The corner bed-when the person beside the window has to get up in the middle of the night for the head, it's difficult crawling out of the bed. That got old when we spent 3 monthes in New England and the Maritimes.
The other reason was the difficulty of watching tv. The tv is up so high, it strains the neck.

The 2551 has twin beds-GREAT-and a lower tv. And a terribly hard ride. Now, if PC made a Sprinter with twin beds, we would have our 3rd PC.

If you can deal with the bed issue, you will love the Sprinter!

When we had the 2551 built, instead of the dinette, we had it made with 2 captains chairs and the table. We call it our "2551 for Two".

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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 03:28:10 PM »

Ron, you got me thinking! I like the extra storage space.
When in discussion with other PC owners of 2350s with slideouts, the lack of storage does seem to be a problem for them.  Our dinette benches do offer a lot more storage, and we utilize all of it.  The higher ceiling above them also has taller overhead cabinets for more storage there too.  We use them for cookware and all non-perishable food.  With the 2350, we have a whole lot of exterior storage as well.  We never have issues with storage.

But I do have to admit, the dinette is not something to sit on for hours on-end.  I understand why some people like Judi & George ordered theirs with two captain chairs and a swing-up table.  But that does sacrifice the two bench seat storage areas and the single convert-a-bed.  That single bed has come in handy a few times for us.  Once I got sick on a trip and needed to sleep alone for 3 nights.  In another situation during a weekend get-away with family at a private camp ground, the place surprised us with a one pup tent per site restriction.  We quickly had a house guest which we were happy to accomodate.

With our 2350, we replaced the uncomfortable barrel chair by the entry door with a 3rd captain seat.  At least then one of us can get comfortable.  In the middle of watching a movie, we will take an intermission and then switch places.

We could NEVER consider any twin bed model.  Our first night saying "Good Night Honey" from across the isle would have us quickly squished together on one of the twins.  We would much rather deal with the limited access of the rear corner "double" bed.

BTW: The slideout today with the fridge included weighs over 300-400 pounds more than one without a slideout.  You would have much less concern of over-loading the chassis, especially a Sprinter.
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