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« on: January 15, 2009, 05:20:15 pm »

Other than the moderator, I had to be the first person to post something, so here is our 2007 Phoenix Cruiser 2350.

















Specs as follows:
2007 Phoenix Cruiser model 2350, rear corner bed with fixed dinette floorplan (no slide-outs)
Purchased new from East Acres RV on June 20th, 2007 (purchased prior to current-day factory-direct sales)
Exterior color is Morning Mist (gray)
Interior color is Sagemint (green) with accenting gray captain chairs

Special ordered with the following options
- premium convenience package (includes 4kw Onan generator, roof a/c with heat strip, class 3 trailer hitch, convection/microwave oven combo, gas 110v dsi water heater, telephone hookup, outside shower/faucet, TV antenna with signal booster, Fantastic roof vent, wood accented dash & drink tray, electric step, heated remote mirrors
- 14' box awning
- full body paint
- back-up monitor
- front bumper cover with driving lights
- 6-way power driver's seat
- passenger swivel seat
- surround sound with dvd player  (subwoofer mounted in front dinette bench seat)
- insulated glass
- small window awning at dinette window
- leather seating captain chairs (gray)
- leather seating barrel chair (green) since replaced with a 3rd captian seat
- cherry cabinetry
- ladder & roof rack not mounted (parts stored at home)


Chassis: 2007 Ford E350
- engine 6.8L-V10 gasoline (305hp/360fpt)
- 4.1 axle ratio
- 5-speed Torque-Shift automatic transmission
- wheel base 158" with dual rear wheels
- GVWR 11,500
- GCWR 18,500
- length without ladder 23'-8"
- width 9'-10" height to top of a/c
- exterior width 93"
- interior height 6'-4"
- fuel capacity 55 US gallons
- fresh water 41 gallons
- gray water 23 gallons
- black water 35 gallons
- LP gas 42 pounds

Items and features added or modified by my wife or myself are detailed HERE.
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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 08:26:31 am »

Hi Ron!  Welcome

Your RV sounds great! We're working on our "Phoenix on the Road" scrapbook now as part of the upcoming overhaul of the site and we'd love to feature you guys in our "Where are You Now?" gallery if you'd like, so get out those pictures or grab your camera and post some pics and comments to the Photos forum if you'd like and maybe we can add them to the Scrapbook when it's ready.

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« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2010, 05:01:55 pm »

Hi Ron:

Do you have the model numbers for the sway bars for your 2350?  My mechanic tells me my 2006 is not a "true dually" 350. I ordered what I thought was correct from Roadmaster and am told they won't fit.  He (mechanic) is going to Roadmaster's web site to try and find the bars that are supposed to fit, but in the meantime, I thought I'd try you, to see if you had numbers that I could use.  I realize different years take different bars --- kind of frustrated at present...Thanks,
Jack pulling hair out
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« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2010, 06:10:00 pm »

Re JackD's question about the E-350 chassis, I, too, would be interested in knowing why the PCs might not be "real" duallys.  I have a 2006 2551S on the Ford E-350 cutaway van chassis and am thinking about putting on a Hellwig rear sway bar.  I can find lots of pictures of cutaway chasses ready for shipment that are equipped with duallys at the factory and my motorhome looks pretty factory equipped to me.  Do the smaller 2350s use a different chassis?  I want to make sure I get the right kit, as the Hellwig ad on eBay lists it as being for a cutaway van and a question answer on the listing indicated it fit the dually wheels.  Clarification anyone??
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« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2010, 08:31:40 pm »

Ford always did make a single rear wheel cut-away E350 chassis for very small box trucks often rental trucks, but Phoenix USA never worked with that single rear wheel chassis.  There are so many variations of the E350 and E450 cut-away chassis available from Ford, so don't be concerned you have some home made make-shift chassis.  The 2350 utilizes a DRW(Duel Rear Wheel) E350 with an unmodified 158" wheel base.  It's a good solid chassis.  Some of the other PC models have chassis with wheel bases modified by specal Ford approved shops.  Phoenix USA does not stretch or reduce themself as they are not authorized.  For example the 2551 has a modified chassis.  It is an E450 today (E350 years ago) that has a wheel base 6" more than a 2350-E350.  Those chassis get special drive shafts, and all the rest that is affected from such a change in wheel base.  Rest assure, it's done right, approved by Ford with no concern of warranty violations.  I seen one when I was taking the tour there years ago.  It looked done right with extra supporting steel where the frame was cut with frame material added, and very nice welding work too.

Got the wrong bars?  I suspect you mistakenly ordered the wrong ones.  I just pulled out the paperwork on my suspension upgrades.  Typing exactly off it.....

1) 1139-115  sway bar
1) 1139-107  rear E350 sway bar
2) 82-2553  Koni shock
2) 82-2554  Koni shock
1) SS402  rear track bar E350&E450
1) 31-140  Safe-T-Plus
2) HR-1  camber sleeve

These may be vendor part numbers or shop part numbers.  I don't know.  But that is what my paperwork states.  There are two different Koni shock part numbers, one number for the front, the other for the rear.  I don't know which is which.

I hope it is useful.
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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2010, 05:16:08 pm »

Thanks Ron....

It turns out the sway bars are correct as ordered, but the kit and fittings with the rear bar are incorrect -- I think it's getting straightened out between the mechanic and Roadmaster and the dealer, but I am going to give the part numbers to both. Not muchprogress today, however.

Thanks again,

Jack
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2010, 05:32:50 pm »

Hang in there Jack.  I hope they can resolve the matter in good time with great results for you.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 02:15:04 pm »

I took your list in to the mechanic & dealer, and they had a 3-way conversation with Roadmaster --- turns out they shipped the incorrect fittings, and are sending the correct in --- should have by the weekend, so all appears to be good --- again thanks for your info...

Jack
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 04:18:09 pm »

Jack,

Glad they figured out what went wrong and there is resolution in-action.

Are you having a rear trac bar installed as well?  I ask because I seem to recall it was a little tricky for my shop to have both the Henderson trac bar and Roadmaster sway bar attached in close proximity.  They did not need special parts, just needed to consider one when installing the other.
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2010, 12:22:34 pm »

Yes, Ron -- the rear bar is where the mistake came in --- the front bar went on in a short time and without a hitch.  The rear came in with the wrong fittings, and led to the frustration -- we're waiting for the correct stuff from Roadmaster (possibly Monday) and hopefully complete by the end of the week.  I'll let you know when, and anticipated good results.  We're heading "south" the middle of Feb., so am looking forward to the "antisway"

Best,

Jack
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