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Title: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on October 28, 2012, 12:45:58 pm
We just completed a 5 1/2 week, 5,000 mile, trip and saw only one other PC.  We went from California to Kentucky and back.  Finally saw a PC arrive in a campground on the Mississippi near Memphis.  Didn't go over that afternoon as we were in the middle of a tornado watch and preparing to abandon our PC!  The next morning I stopped by and met the owner, they had just picked up their new PC and were headed home to Oklahoma.  He had great things to say about the folks at the factory and I encouraged him to join the forum and share his experience and see the great info from other PC owners.

Just frustrating that I didn't many PCs, guess it is a big country.   (WH)

Bob A
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: mciai2000 on October 28, 2012, 06:54:57 pm
Bob:

Funny you mention that.  We went from PA to Utah this summer.  Saw one other PC and that was in western PA. 

DJM
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on October 29, 2012, 11:41:07 am
Every trip we've taken, the most I've seen is 2, one going in the opposite direction on the interstate.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: classact on October 29, 2012, 10:15:00 pm
I've noticed the same, but assume it's because relative to many (most?) other manufacturers, PC produces fewer units.  The roads are simply populated by more mass manufactured brands.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on October 30, 2012, 11:27:49 am
Sightings were much worse with our first motor home of 24 years.  The Mirage company built 5 per week during their best times.  In all our travels, we seen maybe 6 since 1983.  Someone local to me had owned one for many years of which I seen maybe once a year, but I don't count him in my sightings.  Funny that the Mirage was built not far from PC-USA.

How may of you have seen a Mirage, made 1978-1986?
The Phoenix Cruiser is much more popular than our Mirage ever was.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3441/3730194672_dab3dc695d.jpg)
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bigbadjc on November 01, 2012, 04:01:19 pm
If the Mirage was, as it appears, one of the many minimotorhomes based on the Toyota pickup chassis, there's a reason why you don't see many.  They were notorious for breaking their rear axles because of being overloaded.  Really cute, but not brawny enough for an RV.

Jerry
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on November 01, 2012, 05:44:21 pm
Jerry,

You are absolutely correct about the rear axle.  The dual wheels were fake, actually worse than rigs equipped with single rear wheels.  Using custom fabricated wheels, the inside of the outer wheel bolted to the outside of the inner wheel.  That inner wheel bolted conventionally to the axle hub using just the typical 5 lug pattern.  It was rediculous.

Our saving grace was that the Mirage weighed only 3600 pounds plus people & supplies.  It was a very light weight rig.  The rear axle never failed us.  But self contained motor homes like the Dolphin, Winnebago Warrier, and the kind with full blown motor home features, they were in danger while still on the factory floor.

Those goofy rear axled motor homes were manufactured through 1987.  In 1988 Toyota introduced true dual wheels paired with an appropriate heavy duty axle very similar to conventional motor homes.  The problem went away, but the reputation stuck like glue.

For our 1983 Mirage, I replaced the rear duals with large single rear tire around 1986/87.  After a number of years dealing with handling troubles, in 1995 I finally took the rig to a place who educated me on the free axle upgrade from Toyota.  They provided a brand new 1995 rear axle assembly seen below, and me the labor.  I had to sign a waiver stating I would never sue Toyota over this.  When finished the rig was solid and performed great til the day I sold it.

Here is what Toyota provided free including shipping to the shop of my choice.
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3185/3730196184_88bca69ed6.jpg)

Here is the upgrade in 2007 when I sold the rig, a very conventional design, the right solution to a huge problem.
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2623/3730194986_54f88c5ed3.jpg)

I found an internet picture of fake rear wheels.  It isn't very clear, but look close.
This set appears to have a 6 bolt pattern but my 1983 had 5.
(http://hd.sr5.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/fake-dually.jpg)
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: GoPhoenix on November 04, 2012, 10:00:41 pm
We just completed an RV caravan down the Great River Road: from southern Ohio to Bemidji, Minnesota to New Orleans, back to Ohio via the Natchez Trace, 3600 miles.  Didn’t see another PC.  However, one campground owner, seeing all of the caravan RVs parked in a row, said “You’ve got the best rig here.”  Pic on the Natchez Trace attached.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carolp495 on November 12, 2012, 07:08:47 pm
We hit the road for a couple of days just to get away with our first stop in St. Augustine and then we decided to go to Ocala to our favorite spot "Silver River State Park" .... but as we were getting off I-95 we passed a gas station and my husband noticed a Phoenix Cruiser .... so we wipped in the station going the wrong way but we were so excited to see another one of us.

We pulled up next to their unit and the lady was getting out with her little pups to walk and I put the window down and commented on how beautiful her RV was .... she smiled and then looked at ours to see that we had the same one.

They have owned their PC about as long as us and are getting use to downsizing and of course we are trying to get use to going up .... I felt like a giddy little school girl so excited .... but .... I forgot to introduce ourselves or find out who they were.

So who ever you were out their ... it was so nice talking with you and best of luck with your new PC
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carolp495 on November 13, 2012, 11:11:01 pm
Day two of our small adventure.  We left Ocala Florida heading for Jackson Georgia .... we jumped on I-75 and low and behold a few miles up the road we saw another Phoenix Cruiser .... yes ... The second PC sighting in two days .... the people were most likely wondering what rock we crawled out from under ... passing them, tooting the horn and smiling & waving  hithere hithere. It was certainly a beautiful rig !!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: gradygal on November 15, 2012, 09:28:21 am
Carol,
We have never been to Silver River State Park. I checked it out in the Florida State Park Brochure. Looks good. We are thinking of trying for Feb.

What sites do you like?

Judi
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Barry-Sue on November 15, 2012, 09:46:45 am
We have been to Silver River State Park a couple of times.  We always got a pull thru site.  I don't think thy have a bad site there.


Sue

Leaving in 41 days but who is counting!!!!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carolp495 on November 15, 2012, 03:47:03 pm
Judi:

Love  heartshower Silver River State Park .... and Sue is right when she said they don't have any bad sites.  You are not parked in dirt ... the sites are asphalt or small crushed stone and spaced out and treed nicely for privacy and you are not on top of the next guy ... it is so clean the facilities are spotless.
They have a very interesting museum. They have walking trails down to the springs, boat rentals, bike paths, cabins .... just a really neat clean place.

We never get tired of going there.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carolp495 on November 15, 2012, 03:49:41 pm
ps .... had another Phoenix Cruiser sighting  today in Vero Beach, FL .... three in four days time ... we are getting over run with Phoenix cruisers  roflol !!

Judi:

Love  heartshower Silver River State Park .... and Sue is right when she said they don't have any bad sites.  You are not parked in dirt ... the sites are asphalt or small crushed stone and spaced out and treed nicely for privacy and you are not on top of the next guy ... it is so clean the facilities are spotless.
They have a very interesting museum. They have walking trails down to the springs, boat rentals, bike paths, cabins .... just a really neat clean place.

We never get tired of going there.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on November 15, 2012, 04:30:07 pm
ps .... had another Phoenix Cruiser sighting  today in Vero Beach, FL .... three in four days time ... we are getting over run with Phoenix cruisers  roflol !!

Wow, that's a lot compared to the one we saw over a 5 1/2 week trip from California to Kentucky and back.  We will be on the look out during our two month trip to Arizona this winter. 
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: gradygal on November 15, 2012, 04:41:57 pm
Looks like I will have to figure out when to go in Feb.

Our goal, in season, is to go somewhere in the PC once a month. In Dec. we are going to Ortona South COE, Jan is Franklin Locks COE and the Tampa RV Show. I guess Feb will be Silver River.

Judi

Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Barry-Sue on November 15, 2012, 06:48:30 pm
Another great Florida State Park is Koreshan Historic Site in Estero.  It is right off of 41 with alot to do in the area.  There is the Koreshan settlement that you can tour, it is right on the river with canioe rentals and it is in the midst of city life but very secluded and quiet.  The Coconut Point shopping area is only a couple of miles away and that is like a city within a city.  Great night life to just stroll and window shop.  They have great sites, very private but close enough to meet many wonderful people.  And the beaches are only a few miles away as well. Of course it gets booked in the winter.  We will be spending the last two days of February there before we head to the beach for three weeks.

Sue

Did I mention we'll be leaving in 41 days!!!!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carolp495 on November 15, 2012, 07:44:34 pm
How about Anastasia State Park in St. Augustine ?

It is right on the ocean, it has really seculded oak covered streets and sites.  I love oak lined streets in the camping area so I am in my glory there.  I think they have kayak rentals. The light house is less  then a mile down the road and also there is downtown St. Augustine.

Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: gradygal on November 16, 2012, 07:55:33 am
Yeah, we have thought of Koreshan SP--never been there either.

We do like Sebastian Inlet SP because of the beach. Never been to Anastasia.  It's sometimes hard for us to get reservations in season and then we have to time it when relatives are not here.

By the way, Sue, do you know that is only 40 days now?? But who is counting?

See you in Jan!!!!!

Judi
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Barry-Sue on November 16, 2012, 09:01:32 am
 (cheer)

Thanks Judi - I hadn't realized it was only 40 days.  lol


Sue
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on January 24, 2013, 11:10:19 am
We found TWO! We are sadly coming to the end of our two week test camping in a rented RV in  Florida. We rolled into Payne' s Prairie on Monday and sitting there in the next campsite was a beautiful green 2006 2551 from Georgia. We chatted with the owner and he had all good things to say about his PC. He said he is an 80 year old RV'er that plans to keep cruising until he can' t do it anymore. So 15 minutes later as we did our required wander around the campground, in pulls a 10 year old 2350 from Michigan. Again, TOTALLY happy owners raving about their PC, all the great places they've gone and the great service they received on a recent problem with a baffle. They were singing praises to Kermit and Phoenix (and admitted they were working their way into buying a 2552 - I keep hearing it is dangerous to go back to the factory after you buy your PC - a newer model always wants to follow you home.) I've seen comments on this site and elsewhere saying some of the helpful folks on this forum are actually shills for Phoenix but the happy owners we've run into are just regular people out enjoying what they say is a quality made vehicle bought from a company with great customer service and they didn't even know about the forum. Well, our test camping has been great and we hope to change our profile soon to show we OWN a PC instead of just want one. Happy trails to all, Holly
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on January 24, 2013, 11:16:47 am
Nice story Holly.  It is hard to explain to outsiders about owning a PC.  They think we are in kahoots with the company, or on drugs or something.  Thanks for sharing.  Well wishes in getting the "right" PC the first time.  We are still on #1 now year #6.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: gradygal on January 24, 2013, 11:51:47 am
Ron,
I totally agree with your comments. When we were at the Tampa Show (in a Nexus), I was raving about PC's to a couple looking to downsize. I really think they thought I was nuts!

We have been so pleased with the units that we have had and the response from the folks at the factory, when we need something, that I will reccomend the PC to anyone who will listen.

And we are not shills for the factory--as Holly said, just normal people who happen to be pleased with Phoenix Cruisers.

Judi
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on January 24, 2013, 07:48:02 pm
We're up to THREE! You all might think I'm pulling your leg at this point BUT as we were driving out for the day, yet another PC was pulling in. As soon as we got back to camp we did our walk-about and hunted it down. We've done two sloooowwww passes and are pretty sure no humans are around. We hope we'll get to meet the owners tomorrow. It is puzzling us as we can't figure out which model it is. I even took the PC "catalog" with us that I got at the Hershey show (along with a friendly couple we met that wanted to see what we were thinking of buying) but it doesn't seem to match any of the floor plans. If people WERE inside they are probably wondering why four people were standing in the road staring at their RV. John teased me that I looked like someone with a nature guide trying to identify an unknown bird. I figured it was time to mosey on before someone called the men in white coats. I like Payne's Prarie but am not sure why it is collecting so many Phoenix Cruisers. Whatever the reason, we are very pleased to meet these people and get their thoughts on the Phoenix. Once in a while, things just fall into place.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on January 25, 2013, 08:17:04 pm
Got to meet the owner of the third PC we saw this week. Bonnie from Florida says to tell Kermit hi and that she has nothing but good things to say about the PC. She loves her green 2700. I think it is a 2006 which is why we couldn't match the model to the brochure. The newer ones have a wider front slide that includes the fridge. Bonnie's slide is smaller so it must have just the couch on the slide.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on January 29, 2013, 11:47:41 pm
I started this thread last October after our 5 1/2 week trip from California to Kentucky and we saw only one other PC.

Now we are two weeks into a six week trip from the Northern California mountains to various places in Arizona, getting out of the snow and cold temps.  We spent a week near Quartzsite, AZ, there were RVs everywhere, all the RV parks were full, they were parked as far as I could see in the open desert, and there are always many to be seen while driving on the road.  There are so many, I fear that if they were all pointed in the same direction and hit the gas at the same time the Earth's rotation would be affected!

Anyway, I haven't seen another PC yet, I guess there are many more in the east than out here.  I see that there is a dealer now in Las Vegas, I may stop by on my way home and say hi and maybe see some new models.  Oh, wait, maybe I shouldn't do that, I see where others have ended up buying a new one that way.

Bob
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: TomHanlon on January 30, 2013, 07:57:19 am
Anyway, I haven't seen another PC yet, I guess there are many more in the east than out here.  I see that there is a dealer now in Las Vegas, I may stop by on my way home and say hi and maybe see some new models.  Oh, wait, maybe I shouldn't do that, I see where others have ended up buying a new one that way.

Bob

Maybe those of us that have bought a second or third one think you should stop by the new dealer or just call Stuart, he will take care of you.
  :lol roflol >( :-D (nod) >:(
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on January 30, 2013, 08:53:40 am
Ahhh, the Phoenix Cruiser addiction. Those that have it want more to join their ranks. Those irritating diamond commercials came on last night and I pointed out to John that he was lucky that I wasn't into diamonds. His reply was no, I just wanted a Phoenix Cruiser and it is more expensive than a diamond. My reply - but most women that want diamonds want more than one... (and you probably see it coming...) he said aaaand do you think you will only EVER want one Phoenix Cruiser.... silence on my end. I sure don't want to promise anything at this point. I guess I could promise only one at a time?
     Holly - soon to be Owner of (possibly first) PC
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on January 30, 2013, 11:48:25 am
Anyway, I haven't seen another PC yet, I guess there are many more in the east than out here.  I see that there is a dealer now in Las Vegas, I may stop by on my way home and say hi and maybe see some new models.  Oh, wait, maybe I shouldn't do that, I see where others have ended up buying a new one that way.

Bob

Maybe those of us that have bought a second or third one think you should stop by the new dealer or just call Stuart, he will take care of you.
  :lol roflol >( :-D (nod) >:(

Guess I better get busy if I want to keep up, I need a second PC before I can get a third!   :-D
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: lmichael on January 30, 2013, 06:22:50 pm
Hey, bobander.  We probably just missed each other.  We went through Quartzsite Jan 16 on our way to Cambria, CA, and back through Quartzsite Jan 26 on our way to Mesa, AZ.  You're right about all the activity in Quartzsite.  Seems like every inch of the BLM land around there has a rv on it.  Too many people and traffic for us to stop for the rv show - maybe next year...  We did see another pc stopped on a turnoff by the Joshua Tree NP turnoff, and another around San Luis Obispo.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Anne and Bob on January 30, 2013, 06:56:15 pm
We are only 90 miles south of Quartsite with our 2551 PC.  We steer clear of there in January.  AND when we were driving down 32nd street there was a pretty PC on the for sale lot of RV Peddler.  Were in a hurry and didn't stop to see what model.  Outside of that we have never seen another PC ourselves.

Anne & Bob
2013 Model 2551 PC
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on January 30, 2013, 08:54:45 pm
We are only 90 miles south of Quartsite with our 2551 PC.  We steer clear of there in January.  AND when we were driving down 32nd street there was a pretty PC on the for sale lot of RV Peddler.  Were in a hurry and didn't stop to see what model.  Outside of that we have never seen another PC ourselves.

Anne & Bob
2013 Model 2551 PC
Hey, bobander.  We probably just missed each other.  We went through Quartzsite Jan 16 on our way to Cambria, CA, and back through Quartzsite Jan 26 on our way to Mesa, AZ.  You're right about all the activity in Quartzsite.  Seems like every inch of the BLM land around there has a rv on it.  Too many people and traffic for us to stop for the rv show - maybe next year...  We did see another pc stopped on a turnoff by the Joshua Tree NP turnoff, and another around San Luis Obispo.

Glad to hear that there are other PCs here in the southwest, I will keep watching out for a sighting.  We are now in the Tucson area for two weeks staying at Catalina State Park, no PC s here yet.

Bob
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on February 12, 2013, 12:39:54 am
Glad to hear that there are other PCs here in the southwest, I will keep watching out for a sighting.  We are now in the Tucson area for two weeks staying at Catalina State Park, no PC s here yet.

Bob

I SAW ONE!!!!

3 1/2 weeks in Arizona and finally saw another PC.

Got a quick look at it leaving the campground yesterday, I think it was a 2350 on a Sprinter chassis.  Sorry I didn't see it in time to meet the owner, they must have been in another campground loop for only one night I think.

Still have 3 weeks to go here in Arizona and will keep looking.

Bob

Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Barry-Sue on February 14, 2013, 08:53:16 am
We SAW one.

Except for planned sightings (George and Judi, Syd and Margo) we finally saw another PC.  We were traveling south on US 1 at mm 80 and a PC was traveling north.  First one in 6 weeks.

Barry and Sue
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: JoeyD on February 22, 2013, 05:29:38 pm
Barry-Sue; That might have been us... we were coming back from Key West on our way to Naples for the night.  We were in our new 2910 towing a white/black Jeep Wrangler.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on October 09, 2013, 04:20:49 pm
We found TWO. We pulled into a campsite near Staunton VA and there was a Phoenix right up front. We did our walk about and found the owner - none other than FrecklesTweety and friend on their way to the Good Sam rally. She rolled south this morning and we headed out to tour the area. As we headed back to camp we saw another Phoenix heading north on 81. We are pretty sure it wasn't FrecklesTweety as there was no road and it was going the wrong way to be her though it was similar in color. So hi to whomever you are.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: backroadcruiser on October 12, 2013, 08:01:23 pm
The Phoenix Cruiser Model PC2350 Built to fit any road...... :-D
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on October 12, 2013, 08:27:14 pm
Um.......woooaaahhh!  Awesome.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: backroadcruiser on October 12, 2013, 08:34:24 pm
I was following my GPS   roflol  roflol
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: TomHanlon on October 13, 2013, 06:32:07 am
No wonder we can't find them, all the PCs are hiding in the woods.

Great pictures. :)(:
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: backroadcruiser on October 13, 2013, 08:07:48 am
The Brochure for Phoenix Cruiser states "Adventure Anywhere".  My wife said that this not what they meant.

At the start of my little trip it seemed crazy to do it, as I went along the road did improve some. We started in Copake, NY, Taconic State Forest, into Mass. Mt Washington State Forest, and finished in Conn., in the Mt Riga State Forest.  Along the way there were great water falls.  (balloons)

For the Columbus Day W/E the traffic was rather light.    :-D

Bill G
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on October 13, 2013, 02:59:02 pm
Bill, you drove the wrong way. We are in gorgeous woods with fall colors but the road is PAVED. We are seeing maybe 1 or 2 cars per mile. Since all the facilities are closed, people are avoiding the Blue Ridge Parkway but, as you said, the PC has a bathroom... and fridge and power and all the comforts of home so we don't care. I hope you find your way safely out of the woods and your dear wife is still speaking to you when you get there.
Holly
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: yankeeflyer on October 13, 2013, 04:58:28 pm
We,re in Fayetteville,WV on New River Gorge heading for Florida.
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Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on October 13, 2013, 05:42:09 pm
We LOVE the New River Gorge and have actually done the high-line off of the bridge on bridge day (harness up, walk out under the bridge on the catwalk, clip on, climb out on the girders, and DROP OFF - it was awesome). If you can stay until October 19th, it is Bridge Day. They close the bridge and the base jumpers jump off the bridge; Rapellers are climbing and rapelling below it; Rafters and kayakers can run the river then stop just before the bridge and watch the jumpers. They have vendors and local merchants set up booths. It's a heck of a party! The next day is usually the final dam release for the Gauley so even more fun. Even if you can't stay until the 19th, try the bridge walk where you they take you out on the catwalk (you just don't jump off). If you do it, tell Benji that Holly and John say hello and we plan to get back up that way eventually. Benji runs the bridge walk and is the one that put us down that high line... as well as off the cliffs at the top of the gorge... and rafting the New and Gauley rivers... and then we brought out the Jack Daniels to celebrate the end of the season - YEE HA! We really need to get back there. We hope you have an absolutely wonderful time there.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on October 13, 2013, 05:50:37 pm
Oops, forgot the links: http://www.bridgewalk.com/   and  http://www.officialbridgeday.com/new-river-gorge. NOTE - you cannot jump off the bridge. Only experienced base jumpers can. They have to apply and be approved. Base jumpers are parachutists that jump off of Bridges, Antennas, Skyscrapers, and Earth (cliffs). You jump off a fixed object and use a parachute to break your fall. Bridge day is the ONLY day they can legally jump off the New River Gorge Bridge.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: yankeeflyer on October 14, 2013, 05:41:29 am
My wife is always telling me to go jump off the bridge!!Wish we could have stayed for Bridge Day.We were visiting friends in Fayetteville on our way to our new to us,Florida home.Our friends were former river guides,however the last time I canoed with him in Florida,we fell in three times!!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: gradygal on October 14, 2013, 01:05:28 pm
Is that a State Park? Looks like nice sites====

A lighthouse????????????

Judi
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: yankeeflyer on October 14, 2013, 01:51:17 pm
That campground was  Summersville Lake Resort a very nice campground with very helpfull staff.We were going to stay at the Corps of Army Engineers campground just down the hill,however it was closed due to the Gov't shutdown. (WH)
http://summersvillelakeretreat.com/ (http://summersvillelakeretreat.com/)
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Bob Mahon on October 16, 2013, 04:38:36 pm
We made a trip to Gettysburg and Lanacaster with the Schulz's for a week. When we came back to the CG last night (10/15), there was a late model, Delaware tagged, Phoenix 2350 parked in the next spot to us. No idea who it was (simply because I don't like to intrude).
What are the random chances of 3 PCz being parked next to each other?
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on October 16, 2013, 06:37:53 pm
Oh, I doubt you'd be intruding.  Especially if you were carrying a nice bottle of wine, or a custom PC Maintenance Manual wrapped inna bow.  :lol
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Bob Mahon on October 16, 2013, 06:51:55 pm
My taste in wine extends to Boone's Farm Apple.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on October 29, 2013, 08:42:51 am
We stopped in at Camping World in Hendersonville a few days back (outside Asheville NC) and there was a Phoenix Cruiser waiting it's turn at the service bay. It was still there on Sunday so the owners are probably nearby. We couldn't tell which model but it was lower paint blue. Anyone out there have their baby at the shop in Hendersonville?
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on December 11, 2013, 06:55:59 am
Yet another one! A 2009 full body green 2100 was sitting in the beach campsite at Ft Clinch State Park in Florida. We spotted it on our drive through and talked to the happy owners and met their camper dog Willow. They are heading home to Pennsylvania. They had an interesting story on the purchase. They spotted the Phoenix at a dealer in PA in 2011. It was new, never owned, but basically two years old. The price was too high but they loved it so they called the factory and talked to Kermit to see if he had another one they could buy. He did some sort of magic and the dealer called and offered it to them at the lower price so here they are! They had already walked through the river campsite and spotted ours but we were out when they came by. NOTE: The island is beautiful. The park is very nice. They have a smallish, open to the sun, beach campground as well as the totally shady, wooded, river campground. They have a historic fort that we still need to tour. However, there is a Nuclear Sub Base nearby that apparently messes with your cell/internet signal. You have good signal, good signal, no signal.... good signal, no signal. Makes working from the rig very hard. Our booster is helping and the nearby town has a nice library that welcomes you to their computers or power outlets.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on February 11, 2014, 12:05:25 pm
And again! We are at Lake Kissimmee State Park in Florida. We came back from our wandering yesterday and what is in the site right next to us? A 2013 Phoenix Cruiser 2552 with full body Cafe exterior. We had a quick chat with the owners but they needed to set up and dodge skeeters so we hope to chat again before we leave.

Maybe Phoenix Cruisers are migratory and they somehow relay to their owners the path to take so they can find other Cruisers. Ours certainly seems to be able to find its "cousins".
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on February 11, 2014, 01:46:56 pm
....and dodge skeeters....
Temp at home this morning was -16F again.  It's like we are in different worlds.  I hope there is some kind of delayed benefit to our pain like less skeeters & spiders this summer.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: lmichael on February 17, 2014, 06:27:19 pm
Hey, Bob, it was great meeting and talking with you at the Cave Creek Campground last week.  Sorry I wasn't able to have ya'll over to sit around the campfire.  My recuperation from hip replacement is going great, and we're back at our place in the Tonto National Forest looking out at a beautiful blue sky.  Remember, we'll be camp hosts at San Simeon State Park in Cambria starting in July--so if you get a chance to come to the coast, we'll see you there.  Have a great time in Arizona and a safe trip back to California.

Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: bobander on February 17, 2014, 08:15:07 pm
Hey, Bob, it was great meeting and talking with you at the Cave Creek Campground last week.  Sorry I wasn't able to have ya'll over to sit around the campfire.  My recuperation from hip replacement is going great, and we're back at our place in the Tonto National Forest looking out at a beautiful blue sky.  Remember, we'll be camp hosts at San Simeon State Park in Cambria starting in July--so if you get a chance to come to the coast, we'll see you there.  Have a great time in Arizona and a safe trip back to California.

Hi Larry,

Yes, it was great meeting you and your wife and putting a face to a fellow PC forum user, I still can't believe how well you were doing less than a week after surgery.   Your PC was only the second one we have seen during our four weeks in Arizona, the first was at Catalina State Park but they left the next day before we could stop by.

We are on the road home to Northern California today, my wife tore something in her calf yesterday and after going to urgent care and getting a boot to imobilize it we decided to go home and have it checked more thoroughly by an Ortho doc.  We had to cancel the next three weeks at McDowell and Usery but we figured she couldn't get around anyway.

We envy you spending the summer at San Simeon, it is one of our favorite costal parks.  We will be near there in May for the West Coast PC gathering at Pismo Beach.

Hope we see you again down the road,  Bob
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Bside60 on March 05, 2014, 09:21:57 am
We drove our PC2350 home to Colorado last month and have it stored in an RV storage facility in southwest Littleton. Lo and behold, there are two more PCs stored in the lot as well.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Happy PC Owner on March 27, 2014, 12:33:52 pm
My husband and I were returning from Pahrump, NV on 3/17 and had to pull to side of the road for a quick fix when a PC passed giving a honk as they passed. Just wondering if was anyone on this forum? It was great seeing another PC!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: GoPhoenix on April 07, 2014, 09:14:14 pm
Traveling on I-71 headed towards Louisville from Cincinnati on Sunday, 4/6, saw a 2700(?) (color, Sunlight Full?) towing a Honda Fit.  Anyone on the forum?  Waived and honked our horn but no response  :beg.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Big Green Machine on April 28, 2014, 02:27:13 pm
2 Frazzled....regarding the Sub Base cell phone problem: if it's like the one in Groton,CT, they probably have a de-gaussing station that they pass through on their way out to sea. This causes havoc with everything if you are near it!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 04, 2014, 10:39:05 pm
We were working at the picnic table at Natchez State Park in MS, when in rolls another Phoenix Cruiser. They are a nice couple and adult daughter from Florida with a 2006 or 2008 green 2551 heading to Texas. They are not on the forum - yet. We encouraged them to check it out. We also encouraged them to seek help here for a problem with their diamond shield. Apparently it is an after market application (Lazy Days in Florida put it on when the Phoenix was either originally sold or resold). Water got behind the Diamond Shield and molded making speckled brown spots over all the areas with the diamond shield. They joked that they tell people it is their camouflage. They've had quotes for something like $1,500 to over $3,000 just to remove it. I checked our Diamond Shield warranty and it is restricted to the original owners so they are out of luck there. Has anyone heard of anything like this or seen it?

If I get out before they leave in the morning, I will ask if I can take a picture and post it.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 05, 2014, 05:22:17 pm
Here are the pictures. They have this discoloration EVERYWHERE there is Diamond Shield, not just the places you see the cracks and nicks. I believe a Diamond Shield rep or some such is working with them to get the removal price down because it is so bad. They searched online and saw where people successfully removed their film with a hair dryer or heat gun so they gave it a go. Some came off with major work but the film on the one mirror took the paint off with it. I recommended they contact the factory to get their paint colors so they can redo that mirror.

They bought the PC from their parents who bought it from someone else. They are the third owners. They live in Florida. I searched online also and one owner with much smaller patches of mildew under the film was told the reason it did this is the weather in Florida.

Remember, these pictures are of an after market application, NOT the installer Phoenix uses. The owners figure it was not properly installed but since it had changed hands, it had no warranty to go back on. I don't know how much time passed between the installation of the film and the first signs of mildew.

I have the email address of the owner of the this PC and will pass along any words of wisdom you might have. I also expect they'll be on the forum before long.

Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on May 06, 2014, 06:38:45 am
That is horrible.  My heart sank looking at the pictures.  I wonder if the sun did that.  Was it brown where the sun doesn't shine?

I don't know about lately, but back in 2007, Phoenix USA was installing Diamond Shield themselves.  I recall a fellow there installing it right outside the factory overhead door on a nice sunny day.  I  can't rule out the possibility, the person was contracted from another company, installing the product on-site.

A heat gun can easily remove paint.  They burn things to the point of ignition.  It is an electric equivalent of a propane torch, often used to remove paint and adhesives.  I used one to remove adhesive that held down my old vinyl flooring in my house.  Anything stringy sticking up in the air quickly became a lit candle.  A hair dryer will not get nearly as hot.  I would try that.

Hopefully Diamond Shield will refer them to a specific service.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on May 06, 2014, 07:10:46 am
I wonder if the sun did that.  Was it brown where the sun doesn't shine?
Yes, every single piece of Diamond Shield was brown. I was wondering if there was a problem with the adhesive to start with. Maybe it was old or not properly mixed and the adhesive behind the film is what actually molded. I can't believe enough water would get back there, that evenly, to have that effect. I saw pics online of other people with problems but it was a few spots here and there and I can imagine those might come from a scratch or stone ding that pierced the shield and let water in but not this one.

I don't know who Phoenix has installing the Diamond Shield, in-house or not, but I wanted to clarify this particular application was installed in Florida after market, not through Phoenix. I don't recall seeing anything on the forum about problems with the Diamond Shield on other PCs.

Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: gradygal on May 06, 2014, 07:12:20 am
We were told by Diamond Shield to protect it with 303 Aerospace Protectant. After washing the coach, we put it on and then before each trip.

Judi
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Ron Dittmer on May 06, 2014, 07:21:56 am
We were told by Diamond Shield to protect it with 303 Aerospace Protectant. After washing the coach, we put it on and then before each trip.

Judi
I am bad.  I have never applied a protectant.  But our rig does not see daily exposure either and so it still looks great, seven years next month.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on May 06, 2014, 08:25:47 am
I wonder if this may be the effect of using a dry wash type of cleaner?  Diamond Shield says they do not recommend any type of dry wash cleaner, since they are designed for non-porous surfaces.... and a paint protection film is porous.

The DS website says this about removal:
Removing the Diamond Shield can be accomplished by starting at one corner and slowly peeling back. A heat gun may be used to facilitate the removal.

   - Mike
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Big Green Machine on May 16, 2014, 10:07:24 am
We actually saw a similar case in Florida back in March...looked like it had been applied over dusty sand!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on May 23, 2014, 06:30:33 am
We were in Cody, WY a few days ago when a nice couple  from NY drove in with a 4 wheel drive 2350 on an E450.  Traveling with some enormous beautiful white dogs (Samoyed's, maybe)
[We just loved Cody, btw]

Also saw what looked to be a 2350 heading west on I-90 in the middle of South Dakota.

   - Mike
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on May 30, 2014, 07:40:21 am
Came back to our site at Lakeshore Park Campground in St. Ignace, MI yesterday after an outing into town and noticed another PC (looked to be a 2551 or 2552) had moved in close by.  Never did see the owners and they left very early this morning.  This one had lower body paint and a motorcycle rigged to the back.

Very nice campground here, by the way.  Again, only about 10 rigs in the whole place.  Weather is beautiful.

    - Mike
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Kyle_Phoenix_Cruiser on June 04, 2014, 01:17:42 pm
 woot

Let's see... We were camping in Holland, Michigan on Memorial Day Weekend (at the State Park - Beach Campground) and met a couple who just purchased a 2003 Phoenix Cruiser 2350 from Detroit.

This past weekend (June 1) we saw a 2010 Phoenix Cruiser model 3100 driving in Warsaw, IN with a Chevrolet Corvair in-tow.
Turns out it was a couple in their 90's who were headed to the factory to sell the coach to P.C.

-Kyle
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on June 22, 2014, 06:59:57 am
Yet another sighting.  We are at Boston Minuteman Campground and when we pulled in there was a PC already set up near the office area......a 2552!  Turns out to be a nice couple from Arizona that has recently downsized. 
 
  - Mike
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: backroadcruiser on June 22, 2014, 09:27:55 am
In The Woods.  Along the logging roads of the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon.  My cabin in the woods.     :-D
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: 2 Frazzled on July 12, 2014, 07:18:58 am
Spotted - Older model 2551 or 2552 with Vermont plates spotted in campsite #2 at Crawford Notch State Park, Dry River Campground. We stopped here for two nights so we could take the Cog Railway up Mount Washington. Shortly after settling in to Site #5, we spotted the PC in #2. It was just there overnight and we never saw people outside. As I was reluctant to invade their space and knock on the door, we didn't get to meet them. Was it anyone on the forum?

Holly
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: grimes34 on July 14, 2014, 05:09:18 pm
We actually saw a similar case in Florida back in March...looked like it had been applied over dusty sand!

We have a 2007 2551, And the only part of the paint finish that looks bad is the "Diamond Shield" !
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carol on July 28, 2014, 07:18:02 pm

Copper Breaks State Park, North Texas, West of Dallas before you enter the panhandle.  As you drive along 287 you may notice four mounds rising from the plains to the South.  The largest is Medicine Mound, sacred to the Comanche.  The nearby settler town is now a ghost town.  There is a small museum there that can be seen if you contact its elderly caretaker (info available online--I didn't get that far).  The park itself is small and sweet.  Teepee shaped structures protect your site's picnic table from the evening sun.  Nice hikes.  Lake very low now due to drought.  Really nifty little place, though.
P.S. My PC drives like a dream and we are getting along quite nicely!
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Carol on July 28, 2014, 07:24:00 pm

P.S. You can't actually get to Medicine Mound itself, as it is private property.  Copper Breaks State Park is about 10 miles away though and you can see the mounds clearly from many vantage points.  This is just another shot of the campground.
Title: Re: Where are all the Phoenix Cruisers?
Post by: Pax on July 28, 2014, 09:47:25 pm
Nice rig, nice dog, nice campground!  2o2

   - Mike