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Title: rain entering my 2552
Post by: jmosier on May 24, 2013, 06:13:36 pm
Hello, I took possession of my 2552 in January of this year and am on my first long road trip.  Two nights ago it rained quite a bit and after the rain I found water on the floor behind the chair.  I moped up the water was soaked up about two cups of water.  The water is on the right side behind the angled area between the cab and the door.  Has anyone had the problem? If so please let me know how they found out where it water s coming in.  I have called Kermit but he never called me back.  Does anyone have his email address, I left it at home on my other computer.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: ron.dittmer on May 24, 2013, 07:11:11 pm
Jim,

You are the first person I read about having water leaking inside in such an area.  Others have mentioned water around a slideout from a wind-driven rain, but not this.  Please keep us informed as to your findings.

If it happens again without a rain storm, don't rule out the possibility that there is a plumbing leak under the sink somewhere with a very fine line of water flowing across the floor around the trim of the step.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Bruce on May 24, 2013, 10:04:39 pm
Jim,
Here is the address that I've used to contact Karen at Phoenix to forward messages to Kermit:
Karen Hurtekant <karen@phoenixcruiser.com>
I've never received an email from Kermit, but have received phone calls returned when I asked to speak to him.
Good luck,
Bruce
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: ron.dittmer on May 25, 2013, 01:03:36 am
Kermit isn't as comfortable with email as we forum members are.  He would much rather talk than type.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: gradygal on May 25, 2013, 07:01:03 am
jmosier

I would suggest  that you look at the roof mount of the antenna. Leaking water may have followed the antenna wire down. Are there any signs of water on the ceiling or wall ?

George
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Sparky on May 25, 2013, 07:53:21 pm
I like the antenna problem,, also check all the seams door awning and the sections, around that area of course outside,  do no forget water runs, so could be a couple of feet away,,, that's a lot of water so you should be able to find this HOLE??? or caulking problem fairly easy.  On our unit I get a little leak left side top windshiled, door area,, when I drive in the rain.. so I know it's probably in between the roof and , the top,, that small area between  the vehicle roof where it was cutaway and the top added. Very hard to get to ,,caulked it once,,leaked again but smaller amount,, when were sitting still no problem,, only driving rain. 
2008 PC 2350
Houston
David Sparks
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: jmosier on June 01, 2013, 09:19:26 am
Thanks for your input.  There was no more rain during my 2ooo mile tripe to  yellowstone.  When i got home washed my unit and spent some time trying to find the leak.  Naturally no water was found.  I did recieve a call from Kermet.  He was of little help and had no suggestions.  I am looking for a location where I can get someone to take a look at it.  None of the dealers will touch it.  Camping world want 180.00 which is not reimburseable just to look at it.....
Different subject:
When I put out my honing the left arm makes a loud noise .  And the last time I put it out I had to give it a little help by pushing it out with my hand.  Anyone have this problem?
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: ron.dittmer on June 01, 2013, 10:27:26 am
When i got home washed my unit and spent some time trying to find the leak.  Naturally no water was found.......I am looking for a location where I can get someone to take a look at it.  None of the dealers will touch it.  Camping world want 180.00 which is not reimburseable just to look at it.
Of coarse you can't find the leak.  That is Murphy's law.

I think the reason why it is so much money to look at the rig is that you would be paying for a pressure check.  They pressurize the motor home, soap it up and look for bubbles where air should not be leaking out.  Being under warranty, if a notable leak is found, I would hope PC-USA would cover the cost of diagnosis and sealing.  If no leak found, it would be your cost.  Maybe that is something to propose to Kermit.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: gl1500 on June 01, 2013, 01:10:46 pm
jmosier,
    Make sure the knob that secures the arm on the awning is not overly tight.  That sounds like why that arm needed help to extend.
 The wire from the antenna has a rubber boot around it.  It snaps over the opening where it goes into the coach. I found that boot pops off when the antenna is raised.  I cleaned the area with alcohol and silicone sealed it so the boot can not come loose.  That is a possible leak area, but it should be noticeable inside the coach.

      Bob
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: TomHanlon on June 01, 2013, 01:51:09 pm
One way to fined a leak is to have one person inside watching for water. The other person is on the roof with a water hose, no nosel, letting water run around any possible entery spots. Don't go to fast as the water needs time to run down into the motorhome. When the inside person calls out, you have found where it is. Do one spot then wait a minute otherwise you may pass the leak. After you find what you think is the leak, recheck that spot and the last couple of spots you watered, just in case you are faster than the water.

Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Sparky on June 01, 2013, 06:12:41 pm
Shoot, I spent 10minutes commenting on this topic this morning and my message NO SHOWS. )*^%$U* oh well...

  Okay,, try again,,, first thing,, you need to go on the roof and look...By the way  did you get on the roof??? now if you can not ,,,get you a kid from the neighborhood and under your supervision use a long extension ladder let him/her get up there and be your eyes.  Take some pics.  According to your earlier post there was a lot of water in the RV when it leaked,,, you were parked....

    Pressurizing like an inner tube.  hmmm.  okay this may be hard to do,,,,someone needs to be on the roof again,,, but when you turn on your air you can feel the pressure inside the unit go up,,, just wonder if this would be enough to get some bubble leak on the top...

tom mentioned letting water run on the top and checking by area,,, I think if you got a spray bottle and went around the caulked areas,, spray wipe, spray wipe, you might be able to spot a bad caulking area,,, since your unit is new the caulk should look great....( I'm still voting on the antenna being the problem)

One last thought,,, you were out in May,,, raining,,, were you running the AC unit?  could the drain tube be plugged?  would be real easy and right on for the AC if plugged to run inside the roof to the chair...  a lot of the tubes get stuff in them especially when new,, saw lots of post on units and the drains etc,,,, I am not sure about this,,,, I only ran my unit once for couple of hours on last trip was getting the water from the AC off the rear end,,,, have not looked at the manual just to run... maybe some of the guys have some suggestions for checking,, guess you could run the AC for an hour or two and make sure it's draining ok

Keep us posted
David Sparks
2008 PC 2350
Houston
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: jmosier on June 01, 2013, 06:50:22 pm
Thanks everyone.  I have been on top of my coach and thought I lookedat everything.  I have never used the antenna.   I have a satellite.   I will take a closer look a wire and plug.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: 2 Frazzled on June 02, 2013, 06:29:42 am
Our awning has a loud clank at the front rail when we extend it. I was wondering if it is normal or has something to do with the recall repair. Anyone know? The knob is not tight at all. It clanks when the metal bar pops off the metal upright track.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: TomHanlon on June 02, 2013, 07:04:52 am
Holly, It sounds like the arms need to be aligned. Ask the repairman when he comes for the recall about it.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Jim and Beth on June 02, 2013, 08:19:36 am
Our awning also snaps out on the front rail making a loud noise. It appears to be an installation problem because the awning is tight on one side when extended and loose on the other. Using a level, the two brackets mounted to the side are not parallel to each other.

Our awning is on the Dometic recall list and they have set up a repair order at Camping World. I plan to have them check the binding situation and see if it can be eliminated.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Sparky on July 09, 2013, 08:26:19 am
Alright it has been nearly a month.... did you get the problem taken care of??
David Sparks
2008 PC 2350
houston
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: skipper on August 31, 2013, 08:01:38 am
Jmosier traded his 2552 on a class a.  I bought his 2551 and I asked him about this leak.  According to him, it only happened once and never again.  It is a mystery.  I drove it through a few rain storms on the way home and had no leaks and I also spent some time on the roof and it looked very well sealed (like overkill). I have to wonder if maybe the front door was ajar during the night?
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Sparky on August 31, 2013, 08:49:41 am
Tks for the update and congrats on buying the unit...   interesting,,, original post sounded like the leak was to high to be a door, but who knows... I still go with the AC  run off running to the antenna,  I have a leak in the front cap between the windshield,,, only leaks when were driving and of course raining,,, I recaulked,,, next time a little leak,,, so will need to recualk again... on your unit he said he was sitting,, so again could be the angle,, good thing your aware of it and keep an eye on that area...  repost a year from now after you have it out a couple more times
sparky
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: tmoore54 on February 24, 2016, 09:27:02 am
Hello, I took possession of my 2552 in January of this year and am on my first long road trip.  Two nights ago it rained quite a bit and after the rain I found water on the floor behind the chair.  I moped up the water was soaked up about two cups of water.  The water is on the right side behind the angled area between the cab and the door.  Has anyone had the problem? If so please let me know how they found out where it water s coming in.  I have called Kermit but he never called me back.  Does anyone have his email address, I left it at home on my other computer.

Jim,

I am experiencing the same leak on my 2552, what was your fix?  I cannot seem to figure it out.  Kermit has responded, but since we are in Florida, cannot take it in.

Thanks,

Tim
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: keelhauler on February 24, 2016, 01:55:11 pm
I had the same leak, last month. If your awning is down when it is raining, water comes in the hole where the electric cord goes into the RV and the Cupboard above your chair by the door in the 2552. It should have a grommet between the wire and hole, but my does not.

I just took some silicone sealant and caulked all around the hole.

I was concerned it might have not sealed perfectly, so I took off the wood around it inside the cabinet and caulked it even better from the inside. No leaks with the 1" rain we just had this morning near Tampa.

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Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Barry-Sue on February 24, 2016, 02:36:03 pm
Tim

We had the same problem last year.  Here is a link to a previous post that shows how I fixed my leak.

http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php/topic,1792.msg13913.html#msg13913 (http://www.phoenixusarv.com/community/index.php/topic,1792.msg13913.html#msg13913)

Barry
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: tmoore54 on February 24, 2016, 04:42:38 pm
Thank you!  I did see caulking at the wire, but I added some more, just rained this afternoon, lightly, but no water yet!  I appreciate the help, thanks again.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: ron-n-toni on February 25, 2016, 08:39:18 am
We took possession of our 2351 in December. First trip out (two weeks in Florida) we also had water on the floor behind the passenger seat after a hard rain. Our unit is presently back at the factory getting self inflicted damaged rear cap replaced. Will let you know what they found when I get the unit back.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: Polish Prince on February 25, 2016, 01:39:48 pm
We took possession of our 2351 in December. First trip out (two weeks in Florida) we also had water on the floor behind the passenger seat after a hard rain. Our unit is presently back at the factory getting self inflicted damaged rear cap replaced. Will let you know what they found when I get the unit back.

I hate self inflicted damage.  It's the worst kind, Jill won't even let me blame her.
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: tmoore54 on May 05, 2016, 10:51:18 am
Hi there, my 2015 had a leak in the same area, behind the chair on the floor, I looked during the Florida monsoon, never did find it.  I took it back to PC factory in April, it was 15 minutes, they found the leak at the horizontal joint on the fiberglass connection between the coach and cab.  New calk, fixed.  Just went through another bad rain at home in sw Michigan.....no leaks!!  Thanks to the staff at PC!
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: ron-n-toni on May 05, 2016, 05:18:04 pm
 While back at the factory for other work, I told Bob, the production manager about the leak. He had someone recaulk the seams between the passenger door and entry door. No more leaks. 2o2
Title: Re: rain entering my 2552
Post by: KB9OMH on May 06, 2016, 04:06:56 pm
When you get the awning out, look at the top of the mounted rail to the body, pull the cover off the wiring going into the unit, mind didn't have the rubber grumit (M SP) on the hold, I filled mine with RTV and that took care of the water leak, The only way to check the water leak is to put the hose at the top of the awning bar and let the water run stright down the bar. If the TV antenna wire is leaking the you will have water comming throught the speaker on the right side, that where mind was

Jim