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Title: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: gl1500 on December 06, 2010, 07:34:58 pm
Picked up our new PC Dec. 2.  Traded our 2010 2350.  Picture is in Bozeman, Montana at an overnight stop with outside temperature at a minus 10 degrees.  Furnace kept inside comfortable.  This is the second or third try to post this.  Appears photo was too large.
    Bob
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Ron Dittmer on December 06, 2010, 08:55:36 pm
I'd love to read why the switch from a 2010-2350 to a 2011-2551.  Any other options added or deleted?  Also, what is a 2552?
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: TomHanlon on December 07, 2010, 08:05:53 am
Congrats on your new motorhome.  y-- y-- y--

I would like more details about your new motorhome also. Is this the one, the 2551 with the two barrel chairs? Did they replace the sofa? Do you have a slide out? What color did you get? Please fill us in on all the details.

While you are at it, how about filling in your profile.  :)
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: gradygal on December 07, 2010, 10:15:30 am
OH wow! It seems that trading a 2350 for a 2551 is the thing to do! We did it as well; signed the contract last Monday.

The reason is the comfort factor. We are getting older and crawling out of the corner bed in the middle of the night, is a PIA. When you are on the road for 3 monthes or more, as we were last year, twin beds seem like the way to go.

We ordered ours with no slide but a table and two captains chairs. We found that the dinette seating was uncomfortable.

We went with insulated glass again. Full body paint, cherry cabinetry, premium convenience package and surround sound and No carpeting in the coach.

We loved our 2350 Sprinter. We are sacrificing great mileage for comfort but++++++++++!

You guys are the first to know. We haven't even told the family. They think we are nuts as it is!


Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: TomHanlon on December 07, 2010, 03:19:31 pm
Congrats to you also Gradygal.  y-- y-- y--

Lets us know when you get it. The difference between men and boys or Women and girls is the price of their toys.
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Ron Dittmer on December 08, 2010, 11:34:54 am
Hey Bob gl1500,

Is this your old 2350 being sold by the factory on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PHOENIX-CRUISER-HAVE-PLEASUREWAY-ROADTREK-/110621875114?pt=RVs_Campers&hash=item19c193dbaa (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PHOENIX-CRUISER-HAVE-PLEASUREWAY-ROADTREK-/110621875114?pt=RVs_Campers&hash=item19c193dbaa)

Is your new 2011-2551 the same green exterior color as your 2010-2350?  Does it have a slide or no-slide like your old one?

When we were selecting colors for our 2007-2350, we debated if full body green would be the ideal color.  But back then Phoenix USA could not show us an example of one.  They only had a poor paper print picture.  Given our interior was sagemint green, it was something to consider.

We did like the gray, so we went the safe route and ordered our exterior gray.  But as time has passed with numerous pictures since available of the green, oh how we like that green color.  Had we been able to see a green in person back then, I think we would have ordered ours green, then eventually get a matching green Jeep Liberty to tow behind it.  Maybe I should trade-in ours for your old 2010, ha, ha.
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: aimee on December 08, 2010, 02:05:43 pm
Congrats on the new units!!  heartshower

if you'd like, the easiest way to get a good-sized photo up of the 2552 would probably be to e-mail them to me at comments@phoenixcruiser.com I have the new floorplan and some photos to put up as well...should be ready later today!!

WoOHOO!
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: aimee on December 08, 2010, 03:33:39 pm
(http://phoenixusarv.com/albums/2552_models/slides/2010-12-05_06-51-38_726.jpeg)

Floorplan and photo:

http://phoenixusarv.com/albums/2552_models/ (http://phoenixusarv.com/albums/2552_models/)
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Ron Dittmer on December 08, 2010, 03:45:03 pm
I am a bit perplexed what the 2552S is.  I see the slideout is the same, but the couch is replaced with a dinette.  Is that the deal?  Or does the "S" stand for Sprinter?
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: TomHanlon on December 08, 2010, 04:44:18 pm
Ron, I would bet that the "S" stands for slideout like on the 2551/2551S. From looking at the picture one can clearly see that it is on a Ford. :-D What I want to know is what got smaller to allow the door to be moved toward the rear, allowing for the chair.

I hope Aimee puts the picture on the home page.
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: aimee on December 08, 2010, 05:50:58 pm
The picture isn't clear enough that I can put it up on the home page yet, but I'm working on it to see if I can make it sharper.
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Ron Dittmer on December 08, 2010, 05:56:30 pm
Oh, I do see that extra chair now.
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: gl1500 on December 08, 2010, 06:51:06 pm
I will try and answer the many questions.  On our 2350 we had another automotive seat installed in place of the barrel chair behind the passenger seat.  Needed to safely carry our granddaughter.  We found the corner bed to be a real pain.  Maybe OK for young people, but not for us.  Spoke to Stewart about the 2551.  Needed more room to put another auto seat behind passenger.  Therefore the evolution of the 2552S being a slideout with a couch.  Found the 2350 dinette uncomfortable.  Will be adding a short pair of legs to the couch table and wife will make a cushion so table can be used as a foot stool for relaxing.  Stewart and Kermit came up with adding 12 inches to the coach which would give the extra room.  By lengthening the coach they were able to add a slideout pantry between the refrig. and the couch and room for the auto seat behind the passenger seat.  Some of the other items we had installed are:  a Max fan 6200 in the bed area, it is a self contained unit that can be left open in bad weather as when open it has its own cover.  Moved the Fantastic Fan forward to the slideout area. Had a 3 inch pullout drawer installed in one of the closets over the bed, room for wifes jewelry and computer. Wood rails on the tapered wing areas, which allows items to be left in those areas while driving. Two six volt batteries(More power available). Three way refrig. We always use DC when on the road, contrary to what some say there is plenty of DC available and the RV standard is not to use propane on the road(safety). Added insulation in the side cap area where there is none. Had an upgraded water pump, water pump strainer and flex lines added between the pump and the hard lines, eliminates the transfer of noise through the system. Had Ford Rep. come to the PC Factory and program the computer for the Keyless Remotes which gave us two remotes.  We had shutoffs added inside the coach for the outside shower so once blown out they can be shut off and coach still useable in winter.  On our 2552, PC has added an access panel under the mattress for the water pump and added a valve and hose so you can pump anti-freeze directly into the system, nice addition for those that use anti-freeze.  
     The 2350 on E-Bay is our old unit, if you can call nine months old.  The paint is the Desert Sage and cherry cabinets, same on the new unit.  Went with the Tom Tom system to eliminate hitting head on backup camera on the overhead and having to look up to see the screen.  
     Where can you find a manufacturer to do these custom items in this day.  My hat is off to PC and I will promote their product.
     Bob
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Ron Dittmer on December 09, 2010, 12:36:52 am
Bob,

What a custom unit you got.  What a story.  Wow.  It sounds like you took everything you learned from your 2350, and applied all ideas into your new 2552S.  Amazing the factory was so creative in working with you on that.  It was probably the best time of year for them to experiment with a new body design, given it's their slow time of year.  One thing I can say.  Your custom 2552S is much more desirable to me than the standard 2551S.  I also like the idea of getting short table legs to turn the table into a recliner/coffee table.  I too wish I had shelves in those wing areas behind the front seats.  I empty my pockets onto one of them for bedtime, but I wish my padded wing shelves would hold real stuff while in motion.  Solid front railings would be great.

Thanks for sharing all the details.

Would you be available to answer any questions on your old 2350 if I find an interested party?
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: TomHanlon on December 09, 2010, 04:38:48 pm
WOW Bob, looks like you did it right this time around.  2o2 Hope you have many miles of smiles. :-D
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Paula Corey on December 09, 2010, 05:46:07 pm
Sounds like you have a wonderful custom made Phoenix Cruiser!  We have modified every motor home we have had and as I have stated in previous posts we have done extensive interior mods on this PC.  This does not mean we do not like the product overall but any motor home needs to conform to its owner's need for comfort and flexibility.  I see you had the factory do the hatch for the pump and do the pump upgrades.  It is well worth it.  And we did do rails on the shelves behind the front seats, as well.  The one thing we are unhappy with -- and many motor homes now have these -- is the stationary table -- too narrow, too close to the couch, too in the way.  We stored the table in the garage but have yet to figure out a satisfactory alternative.  We are using a collapsible table in the meantime and it works far better than the original table.  We found a great ottoman at JC Penny.  The top comes off and we can store a lot of electronic gear inside of it.  It fits perfectly between the front seats or as an ottoman for the couch or can be used as another seat.  It is $60 at the store and $20 online.  Great little addition.  We are almost done making the PC our own.  One more thing I want to do is put a frosted plastic window in the sliding door between the bedroom and bathroom so that all the light from the bathroom can flow into the rest of the motor home when the door is closed.  Airstreams have these and they are great.  Last, and this is small but important, is a change out of the heat directional whatchamacallits for ones that have dampers.  I find that when I turn the heat on the bathroom and bedroom roast and that ends up turning off the furnace while the front of the motor home is freezing.  Enjoy your new motor home!
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: bobander on December 11, 2010, 01:12:58 pm
Had Ford Rep. come to the PC Factory and program the computer for the Keyless Remotes which gave us two remotes.
Bob


Are you saying that keyless remotes can be added to my 2010/2551 by going to a Ford dealer to purchse remotes and reprogram the computer?

Bob A.
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552
Post by: Paula Corey on December 11, 2010, 07:02:40 pm
Bob, I had an extra remote programmed for our former Winnebago View and it cost me close to $350.  Just saying ...

 
Title: Re: New PC 2551/2552/programed remotes
Post by: gl1500 on December 11, 2010, 11:56:26 pm
Bob A.,
     We paid PC to have a Ford rep. come to the PC Factory and program two remotes for our unit.  We also had it done on the 2350 we had.  It cost $250 including the remotes and is well worth it.
      Bob