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General Discussion / Re: Norcold, not so much
« on: August 02, 2018, 02:39:00 pm »
We just completed a great 3500 mile trip to Boston, passing through 11 states. The new 2552 performed great (though a Saf-T-Plus will be installed before Duluth.)

The only negative was the mediocre performance of the Norcold fridge. We boondocked 5 times at Harvest Host sites, the rest in campgrounds. All food going into the fridge was pre-chilled and I have a Camco fan (thanks Swiftboot) on the bottom shelf.On the coldest setting of 9 the temp in the fridge compartment hovered between 38 and 45. Door openings were kept to an absolute minimum. The freezer performed better, keeping a bag of ice dry and the pre-frozen prepared meals solid.

Am I missing something or is this normal? Thanks for all input!
We’ve been traveling several years with a portable Engel compressor fridge...absorption fridges are generally useless unless used for chilling liquids or storing canned items in hot weather.  The Engel leaves a small footprint (we have the 2100 PC), can be used as a freezer if we want, runs on 1 1/2 amps when Boondocking and can run at 30 degrees off level if necessary. Option 2 would be to chuck the fridge and have one of the many excellent compressor fridges now on the market installed.

General Discussion / Re: HI! my macerator died.
« on: June 05, 2018, 03:19:59 pm »
For those of us who have the 3 inch hose manual by pass can we just use it and forget about the macerator?


Thats what I am hoping/planning on when I add one to my 2006 2350. The macerator pump was the greatest thing when I needed to empty the tank into a port-o-let on NYE... but a pain to use the last 3 times I have used a dump station. Hoping to have the best of both worlds.
The black gate valve should only be used in an emergency...you are forcing the gear driven gate to open manually. Sorry!

General Discussion / Re: Deciding to not Tow with a 2100?
« on: May 28, 2018, 09:58:46 am »
We pick up our new PC 2100 at the end of May and are getting some great advice from all of you forum members.  Earlier we asked a question about boondocking with a PC, and have one more question today...
We chose the 2100 because we think that it will be small enough to go almost anywhere.  We have decided to not pull a tow vehicle and need some more advice from experienced 2100 owners who do not tow.
1)  If you do not tow and have a 2100, what has been your experience parking on city streets, museums, tourist sites and restaurants, etc?
       If there is a 'no RVs sign' does that also mean us in a 21ft 2100?  Should we explain to the owners and ask for permission?
2)  When you break camp for the day, do you take everything (chairs, carpet, grill, etc.) with you or do you feel comfortable leaving these items at your site?
       Have you ever had anyone tamper with your possessions while you are gone?
3)  If you boondock in more remote locations, have you ever had someone occupy your site while you are gone for the day?
       Do you think that a "this site is occupied by ---" sign will help?
Of course any other suggestions  you 2100 owners can give us from your experiences will certainly help these two newbees.  And, of course advice from owners of larger PCs  who do not tow will be appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Alan and Joan
Sorry we haven’t responded to this thread...we’ve been without “gadgets”for a while.  Have you verified that your rig has a 40 gallon fuel tank? If PC installed the 55 gallon fuel tank, your grey water tank defers to 23 gallon due to space limitation.  We can go 3 days dry camping comfortably with our 2100 and Ron is correct that with driving and exploring each day don’t worry about your batteries.  We obey all signage wherever we go and in that way never worry about parking.  We lock up what we can when leaving a site and take what we can’t.  We put a sleeve over a pedestal saying “occupied” in a state campground.  As far as parking your rig...never a problem, shopping centers (small and large) side streets, neighborhoods, visitor centers etc.
As an aside, be real thorough with your walkthrough, read other posts regarding this, and this includes the chassis as well...don’t assume anything,
Greg and Jan

General Discussion / Re: Electric termination valves
« on: May 10, 2018, 02:37:16 pm »
Does either grey or black electric termination valve need to be opened before using either grey or black manual valve or do the two operate independently of each other?
We were advised at the factory that the manual system should be used on a limited basis only.
We’ve already experienced a termination valve failure and are considering using the manual valves exclusively if feasible.
Any insights would be appreciated.
Greg and Jan

The electric valves must be open.   It is NOT reccomended they be left open!   That will cause mixing of grey and black water.

So the answer is...our two manual valves are not independent of the electric valves...right?
Our manual valves are easy to get to on our 2100, too bad. Phoenix paid to have the termination valve replaced....we were lucky it was still under warranty!
Greg and Jan

General Discussion / Re: Stereo/surround sound
« on: May 10, 2018, 10:08:04 am »
Best way to play mp3’s is to create a separate file folder, load all music you want to listen to and the order you want it to play and then when file comes up on your screen select it and you should be good to go.
We use a seagate 1TB external hard drive and watch all our movies (500 +) and have 2000+ songs on a device smaller than a dvd.
Greg and Jan

General Discussion / Re: Electric termination valves
« on: May 10, 2018, 09:59:42 am »
The two electric valves are independent of each other and anything can be opened in any order but the recommendation is to dump black first followed by a rinse of grey water.
We understand that the electric valves are independent from each other...our question was do they have to be opened to use the manual valves?  The manual gate valves are independent from the macerator.  As our post explained, we are considering using manual valves exclusively.
Thanks for the reply
Greg and Jan

General Discussion / Electric termination valves
« on: May 09, 2018, 03:33:58 pm »
Does either grey or black electric termination valve need to be opened before using either grey or black manual valve or do the two operate independently of each other?
We were advised at the factory that the manual system should be used on a limited basis only.
We’ve already experienced a termination valve failure and are considering using the manual valves exclusively if feasible.
Any insights would be appreciated.
Greg and Jan

General Discussion / Re: black tank
« on: May 01, 2018, 03:59:08 pm »
2018 2400, dumped black tank using macerator, valve wouldn't close all the way, looked through the toilet, bottom covered with sludge. Opened 3 inch manual dump and flushed it clean. Black tank valve then closed. Do I have to flush every time? Seems when using macerator all the liquid drains first leaving sludge behind in the tank. Why do I need electric dump valves? Using a manual valve   is fool proof.

Just curious, how did you know the electric valve wouldn’t close all the way?

Curious, where do you see a Coach House unit for sale at PC?
Listed on RV Trader

General Discussion / Re: Electric bed
« on: April 14, 2018, 10:32:57 pm »
Are you saying it has failed or are you just doing contingency planning?

If just planning I suppose you could buy a spare motor / gear box and carry it in the spare parts box on the chance it will fail.  But honestly I don't see many complaints about failure.  It is not a complicated mechanism.   Run it in and out a few times and make sure it runs smooth, that's what I did on mine.  I did notice one of the wires was not fastened as securely as I liked and I added a couple zip ties to that.

If it was me I would worry about something else and just figure I had to sleep on the couch a couple nights until I could get it repaired on the off chance it does fail.
Actually for those with the electric bed in the slide out, a bigger problem would be getting the slide out in with the bed extended and unable to retract..wouldn’t you agree?  As a matter of fact, my wife and I were discussing this very scenario and waiting for a call back from Paul’s Seating Inc. as to what can be done if this situation arises....our motto has always been...hope is not a plan!

General Discussion / Re: 4way valve problem
« on: March 28, 2018, 09:02:06 am »
I just watched the 57 minute 2552 Walk Through, and Kyle points out that you CAN switch from city water to tank fill directly - no mention of removing hose and de-pressurizing before switching functions.
Ideally that is how it should have worked but apparently it hastens the failure of the unit.  As an aside, going through the machinations of de-pressurizing would certainly indicate the valves inherent design flaw and apparently Anderson agrees which was the point of my original post.

General Discussion / Re: Getting your new coach home
« on: March 21, 2018, 07:57:24 pm »
I have never felt the milage rate is out of line. The concerns I have are towing with a new motor, I don't know what Ford specs say, we just bought a new Toyota and are not suppose to tow for the first either 500 or 1000 miles,can't remember which, but I suppose this could be used against you in a warranty situation. The other concern is getting a driver who has little respect for your coach, in other words just two speeds. I'm still weighing all options.
Most motor homes bought at a dealer are delivered by driver picked up at factory...how Ford would determine if it was broken in properly is darn near impossible. Having said that, we picked ours up at the factory and wouldn’t do it again...not much to gain from 4200 miles of driving.

General Discussion / Re: 4way valve problem
« on: March 21, 2018, 09:41:38 am »
You said “it’s not leaking...it’s gradually filling the fresh water tank on the city fill position to the point of overflowing the fresh water tank into the coach”.  We have had the leaking into the fresh water tank when on city water. If it fills the tank it overflows out the hose fill plate on the passengers side to outside rather than into the coach.  Is your FW tank overflow hose connected and working without leaking?

We had our 4 way valve replaced at the factory last year and seems to be working properly now.
That is a good question to address when I work on the coach today....thanks.

General Discussion / Re: 4way valve problem
« on: March 20, 2018, 09:06:26 pm »
Contact Anderson as they were sending at no cost a supposedly updated valve. I received one last year and the leaking has stopped to date.
To all who took the time to respond, thanks.
First to Jatrax, it’s the Anderson 4 way valve
Second , it’s not leaking...it’s gradually filling the fresh water tank on the city fill position to the point of overflowing the fresh water tank into the coach
Third, it’s been on city fill only and we aren’t using any of the valve positions
4th, why who would you have to relieve pressure anytime you used other valve positions? Does that really make sense to you if the valve was manufactured properly?
5th, Dave Ponsler has really shook up the tree with Anderson and they are in the process of manufacturing an all brass valve that Dave will sign off on if it corrects the problem.
6th, We were in the same position as others when we brought up concerns about this before purchasing and were told it was “taken care of”.....right!

General Discussion / 4way valve problem
« on: March 19, 2018, 10:05:45 pm »
Has anyone heard any news about when the new 4 way valve will be available for installation? 
Our second valve replacement has once again failed but fortunately we were able to turn off the outside city water supply before our coach once again flooded.  Am looking forward to this new design that has been talked about as it’s becoming inconvenient to turn off our outside city water at night before bedtime and rely on our water pump (quite noisy for the neighbors)
Am curious if PC is informing new owners of this ongoing problem.

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