Hi, Grampa 17 -
My first time posting/asking questions so weíll see how it goes...
Great post on your part as far as photos and explanation! In our situation itís exactly what we need to know! My husband and I are seriously considering the 2351D. As a matter of fact, tomorrow may by our ĎDí day, so to speak.😉
You mentioned that in your mod you were able to keep the sheet on the mattress when folding it up, as in photo #2. Am I correct in assuming that leaving the sheet on when folding it (as in photo#1) to bring the slide in is not possible? In other words, would all bedding have to come off to bring the slide in on travel days?
When we travel we move quite often so we were hoping to find a 25í rig with a bed we didnít have to make up every night and still have decent living space. From your experience, how do you feel this unit fits into that scenario overall?
Something else you said - you fold up the bed during the day ďto give more space in the bedroom.Ē Is that because, if the bed is down/flat, the bathroom or back wall cabinets are difficult to access?
Assuming (correct me if Iím wrong) you and your wife both use the shower, may I get an opinion from each of you on the bathroom as far as shower size, as well as general roominess using the toilet and lavatory. My husband is 6í 3Ē, 190#, and I am 5í 7Ē, 120#. Iím sure Iíd do okay in the shower, but concerned for hubby. The bathroom, overall, appears to be a little cramped...?
We rarely eat out when on the road, so a user-friendly galley is a must for us. Your thoughts welcome on that subject also.
Any, and all, observations, likes, dislikes you and your wife have on the 2351D would be appreciated.
Thanks for your help!
Iíll try to answer all of your questions.
Re: sheets Iíve posted so many photos Iím not sure exactly which two you are ferreting to, but assuming they are the last two, yes with the factory stock mattress you can leave the sheets on and fold the bottom half over. You can even leave a light blanket on and fold it over. With my mod you can leave the sheet on but we pull the light blanket off, fold it and toss the blanket and pillow on top of the folded mattress before flipping the wooden frame over.
Our travel scenario is the same as yours. It is unusual for us to stay at one location more than a couple days and like you we wanted as compact of a unit as possible. I can say that we are are very happy with the this floor plan. Iím not as tall as your husband, but we still wanted at least a queen bed. With either the stock mattress or my mod it takes maybe 2-3 minutes to setup or tear down the bed. As you probably know there were several things I didnít like about the stock mattress, one of which is that the bottom 8 inches isnít supported. It makes getting into bed, or sitting on the edge very annoying. Plus, the height issue was giving us really bad backaches....
Re: folding it during the day... it isnít entirely necessary, but with the bed down it limits how far the bathroom door can open. For people with some thickness to them, like myself, itís a bit of a tight squeeze. And as you mention itís more difficult to access the back cabinets. My wife prefers the bed down so she can lay down during the day, so oftentimes we do leave the bed down all the time.
Re: the galley, everything 2 frazzled stated applies.. Weíre like you and rarely eat out. We find the galley adequate - but we just make simple meals. The microwave, stove and fridge are very nice.
Re the bathroom: your husband will be fine in the shower girth wise. :-). Iím shorter and weigh about the same and I find it very usable. His height will be the biggest issue. If you order one be sure and get the extended height shower dome - which we have. The bathroom is one of my wifeís main concerns in a motor home and we both find it reasonably comfortable. Again your husbands height will be the main concern. There is a decent amount of space between the stool and the wall, but your husband might find it a bit confining.
As you may have read this is our eighth motor home, I spent many months deciding on this unit because I had very specific things I wanted. Like you I wanted a compact unit no more than 25 ft. I wanted a heavy-duty chassis and top-notch quality. Iíve told my wife many times that I am extremely pleased with the decision to get this particular unit. Itís very solid on the road, drives very nice and Iíve been extremely happy with the quality. Having said all of that, the PC units have the lowest ceiling height of all of the units I considered. With your husbandís height, if you havenít already I recommend you visit any PC model you can find in person to see how he feels about the ceiling height.
If you buy a PC I highly recommend the Liquid Springs. They are an expensive option but they make a substantial difference in the ride. I also really appreciate the leveling jacks. We can pull in and be ready to relax in less than 10 minutes.
I hope this helps