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General Discussion / Re: Potential Four Down Vehicles
« on: April 26, 2019, 05:24:42 pm »
Toad's maiden voyage is complete. Everything works as planned and we hardly know its there, although I am sure we will feel it on our trip through the rookies this June. I think that having the car back there actually reduces the imposed fishtail affect of a passing 18 wheeler.
A drop hitch was not needed even though our 2552 is four wheel drive and sits much higher than the standard rear wheel drive. The tow bar is only 3/4" out of level, well within spec. The Rock Tamers go on like a dream, are easily removed and look like they will provide good protection for the front of our Envision.
We use two rear cameras, one pointed down at the hitch and toad the other aimed farther back to look at traffic. Two viewing screens as well, one on Pioneer radio and the other on our Garmin GPS. Both give us the ability to closely monitor how things are going back there. 
Added a few pictures, hooked up and not. - Dick and Chris

General Discussion / Re: Accumulator Tank
« on: March 27, 2019, 08:20:23 am »
Ron - these are the gauges https://www.ghmeiser.com/dial-gauges.htm I use on my racing bikes which require very low tire pressures. I have one 0-15 lbs. and another 0-30 lbs. Very accurate and both have bleeder valves to allow an easy way to achieve accurate pressures. you pump a little over the recommended pressure and bleed off the air to the correct pressure while watching the gauge.  Mine are designed for Presta (European) valves but they are also available in Schrader valves which is the standard valve stem on most American equipment, cars and trucks. Schrader is what you need to read the pressure of accumulator tanks. BTW I had PC install the 2 gallon Sur-flo stainless steel model in our 2552 and it has worked very well. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: Potential Four Down Vehicles
« on: March 11, 2019, 03:00:54 pm »
Just getting up to speed on posting pictures, how about this, Sorry for any stiff necks.

General Discussion / Re: Potential Four Down Vehicles
« on: March 11, 2019, 02:47:01 pm »
Here are the before, during and after pictures of the baseplate installation. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: Potential Four Down Vehicles
« on: March 11, 2019, 08:48:31 am »
Sarz27200 - Sorry for the late reply but I don't read the forum every day. It turned out that the 2018 baseplate for the Buick Envision really does work on the 2019 model, the manufacturers had to first get their hands on a 2019 model and that is why it took so long to verify that fact. We decided on the Blue Ox Acent tow bar, a dual fuse bypass switch, a diode tail light kit and the Patriot 2 brake system. I installed everything myself over a two day wintery weekend and took my sweet time in our heated shop. The manual says it should take 4-5 hours for the base plate installation and a couple more for the tail light kit. I have the tools and skills so once I got by the realization that I would be tearing the front end off of my wife's perfectly useable vehicle, I found it to be an easy and even enjoyable process. A vehicle lift would have certainly speeded up the process. Blue Ox has written great installation instructions and YouTube always provides some additional perspective. I took a few pictures and will post when I get the time to figure how to do that.
Once we take the coach out of winter storage, maybe in a month, I will hook it up and give it a road test and report back. One last item, I also purchased Rock Tamer mud flaps that install on the 2" receiver tube, hopefully they will minimize the stone damage on the front of our toad. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: Potential Four Down Vehicles
« on: December 05, 2018, 09:14:23 am »
Ron - We think alike. The Envision now has a roof rack for the 16' carbon fiber canoe and with the back seat down 2 or 3 bikes and all the cycling gear fit fine. I competitively race bikes (which are too expensive and fragile to carry outside the vehicles) so when my wife Chris does not accompany me, I convert her bunk to carry the bikes and will leave the toad home. We looked at the Acadia as well but thought when loaded it was too close to the 5000 lb. weight limit.
Our first big trip will be this June when we will be in Albuquerque and Santa Fe, NM for the National Senior Games. We will be gone for a month and plan to spend time at the Grand Canyon and Sedona AZ. This will also give me time to get  acclimated to the elevation prior to racing. Since we live at 652 ft. above sea level and the course outside of Santa Fe is at 7500 ft., two weeks should be enough time to adjust. More to follow. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: Potential Four Down Vehicles
« on: December 04, 2018, 09:12:10 am »
Not too happy about replacing the wife's 2017 AWD Ford Escape (a great car but not flat towable) with a 2019 AWD Buick Envision so we can flat tow behind our new 2018  4x4 PC 2252. Presently awaiting the tow bar manufacturers to design and produce 2019 baseplates for the new car. The 2018 Buick baseplates do not fit the 2019 design.
We will provide an update when we get the install completed in the next month or two. - Dick

Rob - we have the same issue. Prior to yesterday everything was operating normal both for the furnace and heat pump. We used the heat pump when on shore power and furnace when not. The only difference from your experience is that yesterday while driving we also had the furnace blower misteriously come on (the T-stat was set to off) and refused to shut off. It was not the normal fan speed nor sound, more of a pulsating sound. It finally just kept slowing and stopped on its own.
Now we have the same symptoms as you have, when set on furnace the AC unit fan also comes on and just blows air no heat or AC. I have tryed every setting on the T-stat, backwards and forward in every combination to no avail. I finally threw the AC breaker to kill the fan. Since both appliances are malfuntioning it would suggest that the T-stat Is the culprit. When we get home I plan to call PC for trouble shooting advise. For now it is wonderful and colorful in northern NH. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself!
« on: August 08, 2018, 02:49:04 pm »
Welcome Rob and Megan - We too picked up our 2552 4x4 on July 23rd and took some pictures of the four 4x4 units at the factory, two new deliveries (yours and ours), one trade for sale and one in for repairs. Certainly a rare occurrence. To your point, the forum continues to be a great source of usable information that we applied when making our purchase choices.
Only had one issue, the Ford 12v dash outlets did not work, took it back and in 45 minutes Bob, Mike and Curtis took care of it. Ford had reversed the polarity by wiring the outlet backwards which kept blowing the fuses.
Hit the road across four states and 700 miles to get home in one and a half days. Now working on installing 33 shaker style hickory cabinet doors using European style concealed hinges. All this made for a fun ride home without any doors to keep things in their proper place. Pictures to follow in an effort to help others who may also want to hinge many of the upper cabinets from the top. - Dick (and Chris)

General Discussion / Re: 2552 Post-walk through Test Plan
« on: May 11, 2018, 02:12:31 pm »
Thanks for the replies, we are probably in late June or July. :'( We will just have to wait and see. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: 2552 Post-walk through Test Plan
« on: May 11, 2018, 10:15:12 am »
We are trying to estimate our delivery date, our coach is #37. To those taking delivery in May/June, what is your coach number and date? Thanks so much for the very thorough check list, we will put it to good use. - Dick and Chris

General Discussion / Re: Liquid Springs; are they worth the cost?
« on: April 23, 2018, 03:04:08 pm »
John - As stated by someone else on this forum you can always have four wheel drive added later. Quigley is the only conversion that carries the Ford warranty. U-joint Offroad in NC does many Ford after production motorhome conversions but they don't come with the Ford warranty www.ujointoffroad.com/. Not sure that it will be possible once you add the LS though.
Just as an aside, we too would have added LS if it would have worked with the 4x4 option. - Dick

General Discussion / Re: Liquid Springs; are they worth the cost?
« on: April 23, 2018, 09:36:16 am »
John - I believe your new unit is 4 wheel drive. When in Hersey last year I got to speak with the LS guys and at that time they stated that the LS system would not work on the Quigley conversion. They hoped to have one designed and tested in the future and I don't know if it is available yet so you may want to inquire.
Additionally, like many other PC owners concerned about handling characteristics, we have been reading with interest these coach handling threads.
We too have purchased a 4x4, a 2552. We have decided to drive it this summer to see for ourselves before making any modifications because Quigley completely replaces all the front suspension components with those of a completely different and more robust 4x4 suspension design. The rear suspension also gets modified as well. With the higher center of gravity created by the 4x4 5" lift, we think the handling will be totally different from a standard PC experience anyway, so we will wait to find out. - Dick

Have no idea where the designs came from or when, just relaying what I was told. - Dick

Ron/Jatrax - I am starting a new discussion in response to another thread that kind of got off topic. During our detailed factory visit in late March with Earl, he verified where most of the non built PC parts come from.
All exterior vacuum bonded side, roof and floor panels are built by a subcontractor in Elkhart and delivered to PC. The same goes for all the fiberglass pieces such as the front faring, side transition panels, storage bin/doors, the lower skirting panels and the rear cap including the older "Continental style" spare tire cap (which we ordered). That subcontractor is using the original molds created and still owned by PC.
Moryde is the vendor just down the street from PC that performs all frame modifications even south of the rear axle including installing the 5000 lb hitch. I witnessed very professional and high quality workmanship which is vital to the safety, handling and longevity of the coach. A strong foundation is critical to holding up any house, especially a moving one.
All composite wood cabinetry is constructed in house at PC and all hardwood cabinet doors, drawer fronts, table tops and counter extensions are built and finished by a local kitchen cabinet shop.
Cushions, mattresses and furniture custom built to fit the PC cabinetry is obviously sourced from another Elkhart vendor as well.
It was very interesting to learn the who, where and how PC gets it all done, so I am sharing what we learned. - Dick

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