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General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wranger TOAD for Sale
« on: January 19, 2020, 06:26:59 pm »
OK,great, thank you.
Not in a rush here.

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General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wranger TOAD for Sale
« on: January 17, 2020, 09:44:33 pm »
Hi Will: Sent you a private message. Would like to know more about your Jeep.

Thanks!

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General Discussion / Re: Liquid Springs
« on: January 16, 2020, 06:50:59 pm »
Hi Frank I concur with the LS endorsement. They certainly do ride nice. I would imagine in the off position the axle is just resting on the LS bumpers so there is not spring or shock absorption going on back there, so yea must be a terrible ride! Much worse than a non LS rig.

I hope your warranty repairs go much smoother and quicker than the last visit! 
I've got a short list of repairs that I will try to do myself in the spring because  they seem pretty doable and I don't have the patience to deal with dealers unless it is something major.
And as much as I  have enjoyed my travels to Elkhart so far, the repairs I know about so far repairs don't warrant a special trip.


Good Luck!


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General Discussion / Re: Jeep Wranger TOAD for Sale
« on: January 14, 2020, 09:09:52 pm »
That sure would look nice behind my 2552. Hmmmmmm Thinking.

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General Discussion / Re: Air Compressor Installation
« on: January 13, 2020, 07:46:19 pm »
Lance: I am impressed yet again with your ingenuity and energy.

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General Discussion / Re: FlexArmor Roof Coating
« on: January 12, 2020, 08:43:51 pm »
Wow, really nice! And I'm partial to those AC's  :cool

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General Discussion / Re: 2019 E 450 dome lights
« on: January 09, 2020, 08:44:23 pm »
I was told by the factory that the switch is only installed when the Navigation option is purchased.

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General Discussion / Re: How many Phoenix Cruisers were produced in 2019?
« on: December 27, 2019, 06:59:58 pm »
Don't really know the answer but will add that as my rig came down the line it had a big 30 in the windshield.
No idea if it is relevant but it was picked up the beginning of October so if this was a typical year may not be far off.
The sales staff did make it sound like they were heading for a banner year mostly because of all the units they built for the Campers Inn lots.


Edit:
Just looked through some pictures of my build and noticed the unit behind mine on the line was a transit and had the number 36 on the windshield.

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General Discussion / Re: Truma Combi Water heater/Furnace
« on: December 26, 2019, 07:50:37 am »
Grandpa17: You are making me feel like maybe I "dodged a bullet" as we had seriously considered that option for our 2552  but in the end decided to stay with the tried and true.
The technology seemed too new and I couldn't find a simple GPH (gallons per hour) spec on them. The rep at the Tampa show couldn't give me one!

Hopefully they will be able to identify an issue with your Truma that will  make it right for you.

In the mean time maybe you should consider a flow restrictor type shower head to limit the throughput during your showers?

Good luck!

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General Discussion / Re: Liquid Springs
« on: December 23, 2019, 08:53:04 pm »
Thanks for that Ron!
This is going to be one of the first things I look into in the spring.

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General Discussion / Re: Liquid Springs
« on: December 07, 2019, 08:16:31 pm »
Thank you Frank. Hope all goes well with your repairs. Will be curious to hear what you think about the Campers Inn experience.
I assume your rig is in Kingston NH?  Mind sharing what issues needed fixing? Two months hurts, good thing it is not camping season.
I got even less use of mine before covering it for the winter.  :'( Just a couple of nights and a couple of day trips.

It was Barry Hyser that told us about the LS  / HWH issue. Said if LS is left on the LS and HWI fight each other and can result in some twisting of the rig.
Sounded like it was a recent discovery and one that had not been anticipated. This was around October 12th that he told us.
Barry stopped short of saying they would look for some way to interlock the two systems but I'm sure if more people report problems, they will take care of it.

What do you think about your leveler performance? I was surprised that on my driveway with only a few inches of slope I could not get my rig level using the automatic levelers.
And if I don't put my LS into the lowest setting before turning it off, I can't get level even on level ground.
May see if I can lower the low LS height setting somehow to get more leveling. With the back so high, the front jacks cant raise up high enough to get the rig level.
In a couple of instances I was surprised to find when I looked under my rig after a failed leveling attempt that one of the front jacks wasn't even on the ground while the other was fully extended. (think twisting)
The HWH manual says that the last step of the leveling process is to make sure all jacks are down to stabilize the unit after leveling. But if the leveling attempt fails for any reason, this last step is skipped.
I admit I've got to learn more about this HWH system but right now I'm not thinking I'm in love with it. The effective range seems small for what we paid for it.

Would love for someone to chime in to let me know what I'm doing wrong because most every review I've read about the leveling system has been positive.

Was depressing this week seeing my camper under cover with a blanket of snow on it. Come on Spring!!!

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General Discussion / Re: Liquid Springs
« on: December 06, 2019, 08:32:18 pm »
Although I have only put about 1.5K miles on mine, I love the Liquid Spring ride.
Must also qualify by saying I have never driven a non-LS Phoenix Cruiser which I hear ride better than most all other Class C motor-homes.
The normal mode is great on highways and I switch to comfort mode on side streets. LS coupled with the Safe-T-Plus steering damper give a very comfortable driving experience.

Only a couple of small issues I have with LS:
The location and installation of the controller looks like an afterthought. Luckily PC left plenty of slack in the line so I was able to make a plastic bracket to mount it up where I can see it. The factory install just has it velcro'd down low on the dash.

Also, the LS can cause issues when using the HWH auto leveling system. LS must be turned off and I found that I first need to lower the rear end or the jacks cant get my rig level even on level ground.
I think my back end might be higher than most while in the driving position. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing yet. (see picture below)
I was warned at the factory about the potential to do damage by not turning LS off before auto leveling. I think there should be an interlock between the two systems to prevent damage.

I know most all of us here are biased, but I believe you can't go wrong with any Phoenix product. They still build a quality camper and not many of their competitors can live up to that claim.

Good luck!
Jim G.


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General Discussion / Re: Pricing
« on: December 01, 2019, 08:59:33 pm »
Tarnold: I seem to remember reading that the Mobile Eye was around $1300 but could be wrong. I decided to pass on it because It seemed like it would be an easy add if I ever dec ided I needed it.

I ordered two of the quiet AC from Advanced RV. Had them drop shipped to the PC factory for install.
Have not had opportunity to use them too much but so far they seem VERY quiet compared to the Dometic on my old fifth wheel.
The guys at PC seemed really impressed with the build quality and low sound level of the Advanced units.

Here's some info on them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQkBDPOLW4

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General Discussion / Re: 2552 RV Cover
« on: December 01, 2019, 08:13:26 pm »
OK got out the tape measure and camera again today and got an accurate length.
From bumper to bumper down the center of the coach I measured exactly 28'4". This does not include the ladder which is off to the side.
It actually matches up accurately with the PC published length of a 2552 which they say is 27'10" plus the 6" stretch.
Looking at it today I would say I was wrong yesterday in that the top rear corners are not too tight, and there is plenty of room for the ladder.
Where it is a bit tight is the back corners down lower like near the bottom of the awning leg.

Overall I am really happy with the fit and consider it about as good as I could get without going custom.
Here are a few more pics to give you an idea what it looks like.
Good luck on your search.  JIm G.

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General Discussion / Re: Pricing
« on: December 01, 2019, 07:59:09 pm »
Tarnold: What model are you looking for?
They do vary on many of the options based on the unit.
I can provide a last year 2552 pricing if that helps.
The first number in each row is the factory direct price the second is MSRP


2019 Phoenix Cruiser 2552   $96,300   $120,375
Premium Convenience Package   $7,787   $9,733
Liquid Springs   $11,349   $14,186
Automatic Leveling Jacks   $4,310   $5,387
Limited Slip Differential SFX-Ford option   $389   $486
Info Center in Dash 68B Ford option   $504   $630
225A Alternator   $374   $468
Awning 18'   $1,058   $1,323
Awning Auto Remote w/ Wind sensor   $168   $210
Full Body Paint, Nightscape w/ burgundy $6,552   $8,190
Slide out Sofa w/ Pantry   $1,824   $2,280
Spare tire option   $960   $1,200
Taller skylight   $240   $300
Dual pane windows   $1,207   $1,509
Cherry Cabinets   $810   $1,013
Adjustable Shelves x3   $216   $270
Cabinet behind passenger seat   $693   $866
Corian ILO wood counter ext.   $163   $204
Waterproof flooring Cherry   $1,128   $1,410
Bedspreads x2   $216   $270
Power bed PS only   $636   $795
6 way Power drivers seat   $414   $517
Sofa Leather   $332   $415
Back Up Monitor camera without GPS option   $590   $738
Dual air conditioners w/ 50amp   $2,400   $3,000
Auto Gen start available   $302   $378
Porch Light   $77   $96
Surge Protection, progressive power protection   $403   $504
AGM batteries    $384   $480
Docking Light in rear   $240   $300
Hand Sprayer @ Toilet   $114   $143
Removable rod in shower   $60   $75
single lever faucet in bath   $60   $75
taller toilet   $84   $105
heat and insulate Sanicom   $84   $105
sliding shower head   $84   $105
See level tank gauges.   $396   $495
Magna Shade   $464   $580
Gas grill hookup on passenger side   $132   $165
Safe-T-Plus stabilizer   $666   $833
burgundy paint upgrade   $600   $600
Lagun side tables on couch.   $380   $380
Cabinet doors to under bed on DS   $125   $125
Norcold Compressor fridge   $250   $250
Extend coach 6" (Note 2)   $3,000   $3,000
Advanced AC install, Credit 2 AC   -$700   -$700
2"Rim (enclosure) on counter over toilet   N/C   N/C
Agreed options and prices as of  5/29/2019   $147,826   $184,168
Requested changes:      
Waive color change upcharge per Barry H. email 6/19/2019   -$600   -$600
Add surround sound   $552   $690
Add DS window awning Bedroom   $238   $297
Add DS window awning Living room   $238   $297
Upgrade 1 fan to MaxxAir 00-07000K   $359   $199
Upgrade 1 fan to MaxxAir 00-05301K exhaust only   $330   N/C
Add outlet in cabinet near fridge   $60   $60
Roof Prep for AC install   $180   $180
Install 2 customer supplied AC on roof   $240   $240
Tire and Battery tax   $7   
TOTAL FACTORY   $149,429    S+Agreed options and prices as of  5/29/2019   $149,429   $184,168
2020 Phoenix Cruiser 2552   $96,300   $120,375
Premium Convenience Package   $7,787   $9,733
Liquid Springs   $11,349   $14,186
Automatic Leveling Jacks   $4,310   $5,387
Limited Slip Differential SFX-Ford option   $389   $486
Info Center in Dash 68B Ford option   $504   $630
225A Alternator   $374   $468
Awning 18'   $1,058   $1,323
Awning Auto Remote w/ Wind sensor   $168   $210
Full Body Paint, Nightscape w/ burgundy (Note 1)   $6,552   $8,190
Slide out Sofa w/ Pantry   $1,824   $2,280
Spare tire option   $960   $1,200
Taller skylight   $240   $300
Dual pane windows   $1,207   $1,509
Cherry Cabinets   $810   $1,013
Adjustable Shelves x3   $216   $270
Cabinet behind passenger seat   $693   $866
Corian ILO wood counter ext.   $163   $204
Waterproof flooring Cherry   $1,128   $1,410
Bedspreads x2   $216   $270
Power bed PS only   $636   $795
6 way Power drivers seat   $414   $517
Sofa Leather   $332   $415
Back Up Monitor camera without GPS option   $590   $738
Dual air conditioners w/ 50amp   $2,400   $3,000
Auto Gen start available   $302   $378
Porch Light   $77   $96
Surge Protection, progressive power protection   $403   $504
AGM batteries    $384   $480
Docking Light in rear   $240   $300
Hand Sprayer @ Toilet   $114   $143
Removeable rod in shower   $60   $75
single lever faucet in bath   $60   $75
taller toilet   $84   $105
heat and insulate Sanicom   $84   $105
sliding shower head   $84   $105
See level tank gauges.   $396   $495
Magna Shade   $464   $580
Gas grill hookup on passenger side   $132   $165
Safe-T-Plus stabilizer   $666   $833
burgundy paint upgrade   $600   $600
Lagun side tables on couch.   $380   $380
Cabinet doors to under bed on DS   $125   $125
Norcold Compressor fridge   $250   $250
Extend coach 6" (Note 2)   $3,000   $3,000
Advanced AC install, Credit 2 AC   -$700   -$700
2"Rim (enclosure) on counter over toilet   N/C   N/C
Agreed options and prices as of  5/29/2019   $147,826   $184,168
Requested changes:      
Waive color change upcharge per Barry H. email 6/19/2019   -$600   -$600
Add surround sound   $552   $690
Add DS window awning Bedroom   $238   $297
Add DS window awning Livingroom   $238   $297
Upgrade 1 fan to MaxxAir 00-07000K   $359   $199
Upgrade 1 fan to MaxxAir 00-05301K exhaust only   $330   N/C
Add outlet in cabinet near fridge   $60   $60
Roof Prep for AC install   $180   $180
Install 2 customer supplied AC on roof   $240   $240
Tire and Battery tax   $7   
TOTAL FACTORY   $149,429    MSRP $185,022

Hope this helps, Jim G

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