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General Discussion / Re: Scheduled Ford service
« on: July 13, 2012, 03:09:57 pm »
Changing the oil was the most frustrating thing to figure out when I got my 2007 2350.  I've always changed the oil in it and I've never had anybody else to do it.  The first time I changed the oil, I had read it took 7 quarts which is what I put in it.  Checking the oil level showed too much oil and then I read about all the problems Ford had with the markings on the oil dipsticks being incorrect.  So I was left wondering if showing too much oil on the dipstick was really correct or if the dipstick marks were incorrect. 

Checking the owner's manual said it should only take 6 quarts.  So the next time I changed the oil, I put in 6 quarts and it was halfway between the oil marks.  So once again, I was confused and since the owner's manual didn't specify if the 6 quarts was with or without the filter change, I added about 3/4 quart more to get to the upper mark.  That was until I realized it takes a lot longer than I was used to for the oil to drain out of the engine back into the oil pan after running the engine.  I thought I had the correct amount of oil, but when I checked it 5 minutes later, it was showing too much and I had to remove some. 

Assuming my oil dipstick is correct, it appears that it takes just a little over 6.5 quarts of oil which I'm assuming is for the filter for the oil level to reach the upper mark on the dipstick.  Of course it was still in the back of my mind that the dipstick markings could be incorrect.  Plus, I know that too much oil is not good either.  I finally gave up trying to figure it out and I just assumed the oil dipstick was correct and I ended up using 6 quarts like the owner's manual said.  This was also my first vehicle with a Ford engine so I thought maybe the oil reading should be in the middle of the oil dipstick marks and not all the way up to the upper line like it is on GM engines.

I now have almost 50,000 miles on my RV and the engine still doesn't burn enough oil to get down to the bottom oil mark on the dipstick before the next oil change.  I've also use the Motorocraft 5W-20 oil and filter that I get at Walmart.  I buy one 5 quart jug and 1 quart bottle of oil and the filter.  Plus, I usually try to change the oil every 3,000 and I grease the chassis at the same time.  It takes a lot less time for me to do it then to take it somewhere to have this done.  Also, with my previous RVs, I have sent oil samples to Blackstone Labs to have the oil analyzed.  From past experience I know oil usually won't last 5,000 miles before it doesn't protect the engine as well even using Mobile 1 synthetic oil.  So I stick with the 3,000 mile interval between oil changes.

On our way to Alaska, we stopped by Mt. Rushmore, Crazy Horse, Yellowstone and Grand Tetons.  At Mt. Rushmore we stayed at Heartland RV Park for a few days since it's a Passport America campground.  If you're not familiar with Passport America, you get a 50% discount although some of the campgrounds have restrictions on when they offer the discount.  It was a little further from some places, but only $17.50/night.  If you stay there try the little pizza place called Lintz Brothers that is close to there.  They had the best pizza that we had eaten for awhile. 

On a previous trip to Yellowstone about 7 years ago, we entered in through the West Entrance and stayed at Grizzly RV Park in West Yellowstone which was very nice, but a little expensive.  Most private campgrounds around Yellowstone were ridiculous in what they charged.  Our trip lasted 7 weeks and there were 4 adults and 2 dogs in our model 2350.  Since most places charge extra for more than 2 adults, it was difficult to find anything cheaper than $60/night in that area.  This trip, on our way home, we even had to pay extra for our dogs.  It's bad enough that campgrounds charge extra for each adult over 2, but $5/night extra for having a pet is getting a little ridiculous. 

At Yellowstone we entered through the east entrance and dry camped at Bridge Bay.  Cost was $21.80/night.  Then we dry camped at Lewis Lake Campground inside Yellowstone.  Cost was $12/night.  On our way to Grand Tetons we stayed at Flagg Ranch campground which is between Yellowstone and Grand Tetons.  Convenient campground but we won't ever do that again.  Cost was $74.20 for 1 night.  The campground was just OK.  They only had 15 amp electric which required an adapter.  I have several of them and I couldn't find any of them in the RV.  I guess I forgot and left them at home so I had to buy one at about 4 times the normal price at their store.  With 4 adults in a model 2350, we used the campground showers more than the one in the RV since it has a very small grey water tank.  The showers at Flagg Ranch were filthy, missing shower heads, etc.  For what this place cost you would have expected more.  Unless you have to, I wouldn't stay there.

One word of warning since we were towing a 2009 Cobalt.  A lot of places to stop and see in Yellowstone have limited RV parking and some have no RV parking.  It was very frustrating trying to find a place to park when cars parked in the RV parking places even though there were plenty of parking spaces in the correct area for their car.  We had to miss seeing some things because of that.  If we had it to do over, we would have left the RV at the campground and used the tow car for seeing most of Yellowstone.

The national parks in Utah have been on my list to visit for several years.  Hopefully, we can make it there next year.

James & Jean

General Discussion / Re: Ford Radiators
« on: August 10, 2010, 12:02:09 pm »
I just got back from 7 week trip to Alaska in my 2007 model 2350.  On the way to Canada, my radiator went out.  It wasn't a small leak because I stopped for gas and the radiator completely emptied.  I was 2 days before what I thought was the end of my 36 month warranty.  Since I also had less than 36,000 miles, I thought Ford would take care of the problem.  What I didn't count on was the warranty period didn't start when I took delivery of the coach in June 2007.  According to Ford, it started in February 2007 when PC took delivery of the chassiis. 

The RV dealer that took care of fixing my radiator said it's a very common problem with Ford since the bottom and top tanks are made of plastic.  I'm still having trouble understanding Ford's position that the warranty period starts when the manufacturer takes delivery of the chassis and not when the consumer takes delivery of the motorhome.  I didn't pursue this any futher, but something just doesn't seem right.

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