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3376  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Norcold Fridge Cycling Codes Problem on: June 02, 2010, 11:25:24 am
I bet the opperating manual covers this condition, and what to do about it.  Read through it.  If you don't have the manual, let me know.  I have a 2007, I think it too has a Norcold.  When I get some time, I could look through mine for you.
3377  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Autodrain Valve Problem on: June 02, 2010, 11:14:05 am
I cannot imagine the wiring for sewage control would be associated with the fridge.  Maybe they share a common power source/fuse.

Whenever I have electrical problems RV related or otherwise, and see a mess of "questionable" wiring like you describe, I go though them one by one, soldering the wiring and sealing the exposed using the best insulation method, shrink tubing.  Radio Shack sells that tubing.  Once soldered and protected like that, it's like there was never a break in the wiring.  If the connections to the switches are also poor and corroded, I would consider going the next step and solder the wires directly to them.  You simply unsolder them when anything needs replacing.  It isn't hard to do, and it guarrantees the wiring and connections are good.  If it is still not working as designed, you can rule out the wiring/interconnections and focus directly on the switches and valves themselves.

I would do my best in retaining the sewage management system as designed.  When working well, it's great.  Just keep it working well.
3378  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Backup Camera Problem on: May 31, 2010, 11:18:19 pm
This sounds a bit corkey, but is the packaging protective film removed from the camera lens?  Maybe the factory forgot to remove it.  You know how so many electronic things have peel-off protection for shipping & handling.  Just a thought.
3379  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: May 23, 2010, 05:12:32 pm
Just stepped up and bought a 2007 29' today.......Mark and Joy.
Nice!  If a short length and slide-free was not important to me, that would be my first choice.
3380  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: entertainment center on: May 19, 2010, 03:19:17 pm
Our 2007 PC has the other brand entertainment center.  It's a name I never heard of before, it's an "off" brand.  Maybe Executive?  I suffer the same as you all do with your Samsung.

My Sony stereo at home isn't much better.  Everything requires "Programing" these days.  Some of those settings are lost when the power to the motor home is killed.  So what good are all those fancy settings then?

I wish they would include over-ride controls for the basics......base, treble, balance, & fade, right on the face if the unit, dials right there in plain view.  Ahhh, those good old days.
3381  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Problem with Choice Protection Plan on: May 18, 2010, 08:51:16 pm
Les,  I have the opposite story with nothing but good things to say about my 2007 PC-2350.  I do not have any kind of extended warranty on mine.

I am sorry to hear there is a nasty PC out there giving the original owner so much trouble.  I hope you are able to resolve your issues with complete satisfaction, quickly and at low cost.
3382  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Trailer Connector Problem on: May 18, 2010, 08:37:12 pm
NC Sailors,

I strongly feel you should reconsider towing the Fortwo 4-wheels down as long as you are permitted to by Smartcar.  I see them towed, but they might be stick shift models.

We used to tow a light weight stick shift Toyota MR2 and that was so easy to manage.  Your Fortwo is 400 pounds lighter, making it better yet for 4-down towing.  You could surely get by without secondary braking.

The beauty of it is the ease of unhooking and taking off.  If you ever get into trouble like at a gas station for example, you have resolution in just seconds.  Not so if on a trailer.  That and I would be concerned for general safety.  Placing any car on any trailer is asking for trouble.  Do you really want to rely on straps for so many miles?  Picture yourself snaking down a canyon road with the car up top a trailer.  You'll have the car and trailer leaning in combination.  I wouldn't want to do it.  With the 4 car tires on the road, it will follow safely and securely.
3383  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Slide Issue on: May 17, 2010, 08:11:48 am

All I can say is ......If I had a slide out and it was doing that, I would not be happy.  You live far away from Elkhart, right?  I would take it to an independant RV repair shop to get the slide out adjusted to your satisfaction and send Kermit the bill under warranty.  If he refuses to cover the cost, then you'll have to share that with all.  But from all I have read over the years, he will do the right thing and send you a check.

Good Luck,
3384  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The 31 Ft Cruiser on: May 15, 2010, 04:57:14 pm
Now, having said that I have a constant drain on the house battery that I cannot locate. Even with everything turned off and the battery disconnect off. L.G.
It sounds like one of your batteries is bad.  Charge them independantly to find out for sure.  That was my experience.
3385  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: The 31 Ft Cruiser on: May 14, 2010, 08:12:35 pm
I own a shorter 2350 model.  Our previous motor home was much smaller at 17' long, so we feel we have lots of room.

If I was used to something bigger like your 37 footer, then downsizing would surely be an adjustment.  But the extra huge slide of the 31 foot PC seems like it would make the transition easy, though I would anticipate reduced storage would be a bigger adjustment.  As far as fuel economy goes, between 7 and 10 mpg pending driving habits.  Towing a vehicle reduces it by 1 to 2 mpg.  Go slow and don't tow to get the higher numbers.
3386  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: May 14, 2010, 12:07:41 pm
Right now the problem we are having with the coach is excessive play in the steering wheel which makes driving a chore.  Folks on another forum suggest I go to a reputable truck place and have the alignment checked and consider a steering stabilizer.  That is on tap for next week.  
I replied to you on the other forum, copying it here too.

Hi Paula, It's me Ron Dittmer from the Cruisers forum.

Your Phoenix Cruiser 2551 at 26'-5" long, 93" wide, and 10'-1" to the top of a/c unit, built on an E450 chassis is a lighter weighted house on the heaviest duty chassis and drive train available anywhere. Most motor homes using the E450 chassis are taller, wider, longer, and heavier. My point being, you have a lot of margin considering weight and engine power.

As other Ford 1998-2010 E350 and E450 owners say about their own Ford V10 engine, it's strong, but it's also very noisey when going up inclines. You may think it's working hard, but by Ford's design, it spins very fast to get up hills. Do not be concerned about it. You'll simply have to get used to hearing the engine reving as a normal thing. The same when going down hill. When I do engine braking down-hill, the engine revs way up too, sometimes near red-line on the tachometer. For a little "extra" peace of mind, I now use full synthetic motor oil.

About your PC-2551 handling issues. You sound like me when we bought our PC-2350. As others above here stated, and yourself confirmed, take it to a truck suspension shop, not an automotive suspension shop. If you have limited funding for suspension upgrades, then you will want to do improvements one step at a time. I advise to consider evaluating/upgrading in this order.

1a) Tire pressure is very influential in handling and quality of ride. Tire pressure is determined by the weight on it. Ask Phoenix USA what the weight is on front and rear tires, then follow the chart in Michelan's website on pressure per weight.

1b) Front wheel alignment. Our 2007 PC-2350 alignment was off by so much that the truck shop had to use offset bushings to get the camber set properly. Phoenix USA may cover the cost of a wheel alignment. I heard them covering for another PC owner. Our front wheel alignment cost us $170 three years ago. BTW: The shop told me most motor homes require offset bushings for a proper alignment, so the Phoenix Cruiser is no exception.

When you take the RV in for a wheel alignment, fill the fresh tank with water, empty the waste tanks, and fill up the RV with a full tank of gas and propane. Also keep your gear, dishes, etc. inside. The mission is to get an alignment done with the RV weighted as it would be during a voyage. If you want to go an extra step, place weights just behind the driver and passenger seats to represent two adults in the front cab. I did that.

2) Replace your Ford steering stabilizer with a heavy duty one. We have a Safe-T-Plus and it does a great job. But there are other good brands out there too. Ours eliminates driver over-reaction and "steering wheel floaties".

3) Replace your shock absorbers with Bilsteins or Koni-RV shocks. The shocks on your E450 chassis could be the same used in the E350, and the E250 passenger and cargo van. That was the case in 2007. If true today, those shocks are not ideal for any motor home where the chassis is loaded to near capacity, 100% of the time because a house is always on it.

4) Replace your Ford rear stabilizer bar with a heavy duty one from Helwig, Roadmaster, or other brand. A heavy duty stabilizer bar significantly reduces side-to-side rocking motion like a boat on water.

5) Replace your Ford front stabilizer bar for the same reasons.

6) If you tow anything at all, you might find the rear end of your PC-2551 moving side to side horizontally, commonly referred to as "tail-wagging". If so, then consider a rear trac bar. That will eliminate that unwanted motion.

We had all this done at once, costing us $3900. It was a lot of money to spend, but given the experience addressing handling issues with our old RV of 24 years, I wasn't going to fool around this time to try and save some money. We decided to do it all at once, be done with it, and enjoy this "perfect handling" RV from DAY ONE. Our PC-2350 handles like a dream. And it tows a vehicle 100% of the time too.
3387  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: May 14, 2010, 12:05:36 pm
Funny I don't have a mirror behind the stove-top in our 2007 2350, wondering if your mirror would be nice.

Cound someone post some pictures of your mirror?  Maybe I'll get one.
3388  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself! on: May 13, 2010, 07:35:33 pm
Wow just signed a contract for a 2010 2551....excited to start on our new journey!  Loved hearing about Karma's rennovations...especially the galley mirror!!??!! who would have needed that there?  And making a book shelf from the valance - I was wondering where to keep my books- great idea!


Since you are placing an order on a PC, request they delete the mirror and place a couple extra valences in the RV on the side for you.  They might even do it for free given you are sacrificing the mirror.  The factory is very flexible.

We requested a few deviations too.

I asked for the ladder and roof rack be placed inside the RV.  I didn't like it so I asked for it in pieces in case I changed my mind later.  3 years later and I still love ours without it.

Given I have no slide, I requested the subwoofer be placed in the front dinette bench.  I like that deviation too.
3389  Main Forum / General Discussion / Re: Favorite little-known feature? on: May 07, 2010, 12:59:23 am

I have something which I feel should be mentioned in their brochure.  This is in regards to the over-all construction of the Phoenix Cruiser.

When it comes to the life expectancy of any motor home, one of the highest contributors to a shortened life is water infiltration.  Interior construction materials suffer and a mold problem quickly develops.  All to often, by the time the owner discovers the problem, too much water damage has already occurred.

So which RV's are less suseptable? Which are less likely to leak? The design and construction methods used in a Phoenix Cruiser address such areas where many other motor homes fall short.

- An aerodynamic B+ configuration is more robust than any conventional class-C with a cab-over bed. The large frontal overhang of the other kind will resonate when the motor home is driven.  Seams in the area fatique over the miles. The Phoenix Cruiser has a seamless nose up front.  No seams and no overhang in the most vulnerable area, eliminates the most common potential water problem.

- How is the seamwork made?  What little seamwork there is on a Phoenix Cruiser, the caulk is protected from the sun with securely mounted decorative trim, then the trim is sealed.  Many other motor homes have a purely decorative trim with exposed caulk.  With age and exposure to the sun, the caulk becomes brittle, shrinks, cracks, then separates, allowing water to enter.

- Where is the seamwork located?  Seams in the corners and edges is bad. Seams brought in from those areas is good. Roof to wall, and wall to wall, seams moved from the edges and corners are seams in areas of greatly reduced stress. Less stress means less suseptible to failure. That means less potential for water leakage.  The Phoenix Cruiser considers this.  Look close where the seamwork is located. Note the rounded edges of the roofline. The fiberglass roof sheathing rolls over the sides so the seamwork is not in the corner where wall meets roof, but rather on the wall, down a few inches. The same for the rear wall. Note the rear wall is a 5 sided fiberglass cap, placing seams away from all edges and corners.

- A crowned fiberglass roof is better than any flat roof. All flat motor home roofs will sag over time and with fatique from motion, especially where there is added weight, for example the roof-top air conditioner.  Water will eventually puddle around it.  Old dried up cracked-up caulk along with puddled water or ice, work together for water damage.  The Phoenix Cruiser has a crowned roof so water will not puddle and ice will not form.

Phoenix USA addresses the most vulnerable areas in RV construction, making it a much better, longer lasting, stay dry motor home.

That is my "Big" input.  I will give thought to the smaller stuff.
3390  Main Forum / Tips and Tricks / Re: Things We Have Added to Our 2350 - Extra Storage on: May 07, 2010, 12:26:31 am

Thanks for sharing your ideas, with pictures.  You got me thinking.

I am curious, where did you find "exact matching" wood and Corian counter materials?  Did Phoenix USA provide them for you?  Did they make the cabinet and shelves during construction?

I found close matching pre-finished shelving at Home Depot, but yours looks better yet.  For example the shelves in your shirt closet look like they came with the RV.  My shirt closet shelf looks good, yours look perfect.
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