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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by hutch42 on Today at 05:15:07 pm »
CalCruiser ---Right about the first year or so on the Fuse.   Thats why I think one of the top three boutique RV makers (PC-CH&LTV) could do an admirable job building one.  I actually have been the unofficial "Glitch Statistician" on the Fuse Owners Forum since early 2017.  :-D  They have had a number of issues dealing with quality of workmanship.  Nothing earth shattering, but a concern when you pay $100K for an RV.  WBGO has recently curtailed (temp) production of the Fuse in order to implement changes and improvements recommended by their own engineers and Fuse owners.  There have been three owners group members meetings with  the Fuse product managers over the last year and a half.  The most recent was in Forrest City last month.  A number of those recommended changes are being implemented.

We have developed a list over the past years to one, supply to WBGO, and two, to give to new buyers so that they can use as a checklist when purchasing.  WBGO dealers are terrible for the most part when it comes to product knowledge and service.  Quite a few of the items on the list really are not WBGO problems...more vendor issues. I have attached the list....it is hard to keep up with when they are pushing 5-8 Fuses off the line a week.
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General Discussion / Re: Banned from the forum
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on Today at 04:48:35 pm »
I got similar msg several years ago after returning from Germany.   Contacted Amy who was in charge of site then.  Whatever the problem was, it was corrected.  Maybe sometimes there's a problem when you log in while out of country
Come to think of it, I had the same experience after returning from a vacation in Europe.  I did use my phone in Europe.
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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by bftownes on Today at 04:44:49 pm »
If it fits, load it!

Cheers...
Barry T
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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on Today at 04:44:28 pm »
I have a 2004 Phoenix Cruiser brochure that lists  the  "Approx. Unit Base Weight" as follows : 21' =8190. 23' =8490 25' = 8900. Maybe that means without the  "Popular Options" (brochure pre-dates the convenience package) such as generator,  roof air, awning, microwave, &  class 3 hitch.
Those numbers appear to be in-line with later model year numbers.  Like you say, the convenience package adds significant weight.  A second house battery also added extra weight.  I would think the Corian counters added some too.

So you have a 2004 Brochure?  If you are able to scan it, I would love to have a soft copy.  I collect PC model year brochure soft copies.  I wished Phoenix had all their brochures available on their website like Winnebago does.
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General Discussion / Re: Banned from the forum
« Last post by lmichael on Today at 04:41:17 pm »
I got similar msg several years ago after returning from Germany.   Contacted Amy who was in charge of site then.  Whatever the problem was, it was corrected.  Maybe sometimes there's a problem when you log in while out of country
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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on Today at 04:35:35 pm »
Our biggest issues would be what do we do with 100 LBS of wine?  :help
Ha ha.

Thanks for the correction on the LTV being the one with only 925 lb.

The Winnebago Fuse having 1200 is more realistic.
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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by CalCruiser on Today at 04:21:17 pm »
The TRX is only 22'7" so they would not be able to fit even the 42" sofa from the Fuse in  a twin bed rear bath floorplan. If Phoenix is willing to forgo the basic 2100 layout those LTV Wonder floorplans  might be do-able for couples who need  lots of cabinets  and not much living space LOL. Something like the discontinued CL model Navion IQ would be my choice,  although that was also on a 25' chassis.

Phoenix had a used Fuse 23A for sale last spring. Maybe they took it apart and put it back together first to reverse engineer how Winnebago made it so light LOL.  There's a bunch of mostly negative Fuse reviews all over the internet, mostly due to  Winnebago defects not related to  Ford.

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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by hutch42 on Today at 02:56:42 pm »
Ron---the LTV Wonder Transit is 925 Lbs.  The Fuse is around 1200 Lbs depending on options.

Its the new breed of RVer's. Not our dads RV.  Kin to the tiny house folks.  Living off the grid, traveling light and fast.   WBGO class A coach sales has fallen over 50% in the last few years. Hence good sales in the Trend, Travato, Paseo and Fuse lines.  Reduction in weights using Truma H/W and heating systems, Lithium batteries, solar systems, inverters, compressor fridges are now standard in several WBGO product lines.

Not sure I could cope with the changes either, although I do like some of the new features.  Our biggest issues would be what do we do with 100 LBS of wine?  :help
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General Discussion / Re: Roadside Assistance
« Last post by BlueBlaze on Today at 01:06:04 pm »
The thing that bugs me about special RV tow insurance coverage is that for an extra $100, all you get is the right to have a bigger vehicle towed for free.  What's their potential risk, maybe 2 grand, tops? 

The liability coverage for that Smart car toad I just bought was only $300/yr for $50K/$100K coverage (and I thought that was high!).  $100 for $2,000 worth of tow insurance seems like a rip-off, in comparison.

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General Discussion / Re: A bigger better badder Rialta
« Last post by Ron Dittmer on Today at 01:05:43 pm »
Wow, the Coach House Transit provides only 700 pounds to work with?  That is ridiculous.  The Winnebago Fuse Transit with 925 pounds isn't much better.  We would have to travel without water which is unacceptable for us because we boon-dock 100% the time.  Even traveling dry, I think we would be over-weight with the basics we carry.

Our 2007 PC2350 E350-V10 with no slide out has a weight rating of 11,500 pounds.  I weighed it empty & dry but with a full tank of gas (55 gallons) and 10 gallons of LP gas.  It came in at 9920 pounds.  That means our actual cargo capacity is 1580 pounds.  Our heaviest trip weighed in at 11480, just 20 pounds less than the limit.  Irene and I, our combined body weight is around 300 pounds.  Other than fresh and bottled water, the heavy stuff we carry is related to mechanical and towing.  I wouldn't know how to reduce our added weight by 655 pounds and still make a nice trip of it.
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