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Let's talk Oil

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Let's talk Oil
« on: December 23, 2017, 11:55:01 am »
Whenever they have motor oil on rebate at Menards, I always stock up.  With all the options, I am curious what everyone uses with their Triton V10 engines.  I am interested in what weight you use and if you use conventional, blend, or full synthetic.  Also, if you have a favorite brand oil, I am interested in that as well.  I am sure there is lots of great advice on this question. 

Thanks!

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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2017, 01:39:47 pm »
I change my own oil with Mobil one premium synthetic 5W20.  We use our PC winter and summer.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2017, 03:06:07 pm »
Ford Motorcraft synthetic blend.  5w20.  A mechanic whose opinions I trust said there was no reason to spend more on a full synthetic, and that the V10 was built to operate with the Motorcraft blend.  Oil which is quite a bit cheaper than full synthetic, particularly when I locate the 5qt containers on sale, and stock up.  But, to each their own.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2017, 09:03:19 am »
I voted.

I always put in 5W-20 per Ford's recommendation in our 2007 owners manual.

I use full synthetic because the "sale" price of full synthetic has come down to within $1 of conventional oil.  I buy it on sale for less than $3 per quart, most often Valvoline or Quaker State brands, but I have used other brands too.

I change the oil before we leave on the next multi-week trip.  Our PC oil & filter changes are generally at one year and 5000-6000 mile intervals.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 11:16:17 am »
5W-20 Mobil M1.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2018, 10:35:35 am »
5w20 pennzoil ultra syn. Based on black stone lab reports the motor craft oil had to be changed by 4,000 miles and the pennzoil I can go 7,000 with life left in the oil.  With that in mind it’s now cheaper than the motor craft being it’s $25 for 5 qt jug compared to 18 for Motor craft blend. Typically pennz ultra is 40 a jug but I find it frequently for 25 especially on Amazon including shipping. I use Mobil one in my smart car but at 5,000 miles the lab shows it’s about done so I haven’t tried it in my V10. I use motorcraft fl820s oil filter.

No idea if this makes pennzoil better or worse but it’s formulated from natural gas rather than liquid petroleum. My bet is any of the major oils brands are good. Which one works best in your rig and driving conditions can really only be told by spending $30 bucks on a lab test.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2018, 09:45:48 am »
5w/30 full synthetic (Mobile 1)

Why 30 instead of 20,because 99% of our driving is non-stop highway driving at 65mph or higher.  30 weight weight provides slightly better viscosity, thus protection when the engine is at temp and under load.

I have not noticed any change in fuel usage.

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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2018, 12:20:21 pm »
Engine tolerances (distance between moving parts) are much tighter then the days of Detroit Big Iron.  As such, manufacturers dropped the oil viscosity to assure the necessary lubrication.  This is particularly critical in engines with over-head cam shafts (not quite as critical an issue with PC owners with push rod engines) which need lubrication as soon as the engine starts up.
 
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2018, 09:10:11 am »
Crop Duster. Your spot on with the reasons for the specified oil weight.  The days of old where we increase the oil weight based on miles on the unit or how it is used are long gone but sometimes hard to let go of the idea.  Also the days are gone where engines had to be rebuilt by 80,000 miles. The design of these engines requires the lighter weight and the longevity of these engines shows the engineers know what they are doing.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2018, 10:32:43 am »
Jospeh,

Thanks for your comment.  Very true about the dramatic improvements to engine lifetime.  Upgrades in lubrication and technological improvements in engine operation are providing mileage figures unheard of not so many years ago.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2018, 07:11:42 am »
Computer aided design & manufacturing automation along with computerized engine controls and oil and fuel technology are primary reasons why the engines of today are so much better than years past.  This is reflected in thinner oil for tight tolerance lubrication and fuel economy.  Not just the viscosity of the engine oil has thinned, but also the "generic" duration between oil changes has increased from 3000 to 5000.  Vehicle, oil, and fuel technology has changed a lot and so I follow what is recommended in the owners manual.  As of late, I change the oil in all my vehicles at 5000 mile intervals (3000 miles in the past) using full synthetic oil because I get it on sale for less than $3 a quart on a regular basis.  Otherwise I would use regular oil.  I think our 2014 Nissan Altima manual states to change it less frequently,maybe 7500 miles, maybe later yet, I forget.  But the old school in me says to change the oil more frequently at 5k.

One other common misunderstanding is the use of higher octane gas than specified in the owners manual, and it's consequences.  But that is another topic.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2018, 06:43:58 pm »
I change our oil once a year, wether it needs it or not.  ;)
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2018, 06:18:16 pm »
I just received my report from Blackstone labs after just short of 6,000 miles with Pennzoil  ultra syn 5-20.  The engine has around 44,000 miles. The trip had a lot of mountain driving pulling my little toad.   They stated there is no reason I couldn’t go up yo 7500 miles based on the additives left in the oil.  I don’t plan on going much more than 6k on a trip between changes but it’s nice to know the oil will hold its own if I need to.

For reference the oil cost 24 and change a gallon thru Amazon.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2018, 06:38:24 pm »
Thanks for reporting that.

Our trips rarely exceed 6000 miles on the motor home,  often in the 4500-5500 mile range.  Like you, I don't change the oil during our trips.  I used to check the oil frequently during the earlier years, but the level never drops enough to add a full quart.  Now I check only once 2/3 into our trips.  Sometimes I will add a half quart, other times nothing.

I use full synthetic motor oil, 5W-20 per the owners manual, the brand of oil varies.  It's usually Pennzoil because I get it on sale cheap, less than $3.00 per quart.  But I have used other brands (also bought cheap) and sleep well at night.
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Re: Let's talk Oil
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2018, 09:48:36 am »
Ron, I had to add one quart at 3,000 miles. When I used motorcraft I went thru a quart in 1500 miles. This trip had a lot of hard mountain driving so I’m guessing it may do better on less stressful roads. On my Ford Fusion using motorcraft I never need to add between 5,000 mile changes.  I had a Harley V Rod once that when using Harley labeled synthetic would go thru a quart in 1,000 miles , sometimes by 800. I tried a couple of diff brands of syn blends and with  Castrol v twin oil I used a quart in 3,000 which was my change interval. I’ve never understood how this could be but assumed it might be due to what ever additives are in the oil but it’s a mystery to me.
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