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garmp

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2100 Pictures
« on: November 02, 2016, 04:06:46 pm »
Getting closer to ordering a 2100 and am getting confused. We initially specified full body paint (Graystone) when we talked to Earl, but now are confused about what we want. Where can I find pictures of a 2100, or something close, that shows the full body paint vs the lower body paint? Should I just bother him again, as I have so many times already? Or does someone know of a site where I can view these?
I've read several post that recommend the full paint, but we like the looks of the 2100 on their site. We were thinking we like the paint shown here http://www.phoenixusarv.com/2100.html. And if that is the lower body we feel that it would be wise to spend the saved money on insulated glass.
Thanks for your help.

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Bruce

Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2016, 04:22:27 pm »
The paint job shown on the rig in your link is an example of lower body paint.

You can see a variety of full body paint examples by visiting the home site for Phoenix Cruiser.
http://www.phoenixusarv.com/index.html

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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2016, 07:45:49 pm »
The colors page will get you there http://www.phoenixusarv.com/colors.html - I suggest comparing the lower body paint shown under the color "graystone" - that looks to be a 2100 or 2400. And for the full body paint on a shorter rig, look at the color "toast" which I believe shows full body paint on a 2350 (longer than the 2100 but as close you get on that page. 

Besides the beauty of the full body paint, you get an easy care exterior with automotive paint instead of the gel coat. Many, many owners have the lower body paint and are happy with it. It requires different care so you just have to plan accordingly. Choose what is right for you.

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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2016, 08:39:06 pm »
Don't think the photo posted (to large) so will try again.

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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2016, 08:41:52 pm »
Looks like the smaller photo posted but not my narrative.
We are very happy with just the lower body paint and our only cleaning problem is that the PC is tall and we are small. Many excellent suggestions on quality cleaning products here on the forum.  I would put the money into insulated windows.  Something we wish we had in the cool/cold Rocky Mountain weather.

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Gail Staton

Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2016, 06:16:01 am »
We purchased our 2013 2100 used.   It has lower paint and regular windows.    After having it a year and a half, we would have ordered it the same way.   We live in FL and no longer travel in cold climates and find the regular windows are fine.   The double MCD shades and the awning do a fine job of blocking out the sun when needed.

The full body paint has advantages as far as maintenance and no decals.    Your decision as to cost vs worth to you.    Hubby actually prefers the look of our white upper.

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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2016, 07:30:16 am »
another thing to consider: The insulated glass windows deaden noise. We have had the insulated glass on all 3 of our PCs. I find that it deadens noise if you have loud neighbors in the campground. I am a light sleeper so I find that the insulated glass helps (although we have never had a PC without it.

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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2016, 09:24:28 am »
Thanks all for the info. Just after posting my question I found the color page and saw the differences. Should have looked before I blurted out a question.
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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2016, 09:43:50 am »
I have a question for you who own older PCs with full body paint and store your PC outside without a covering of any kind.

How is the paint work holding up to the elements?

I ask because I saw a full body paint 2007 PC (same year and paint as our PC) for sale on the internet earlier this year.  The painted surfaces that faced up toward the sky was badly sun beaten, faded, and even missing.  Maybe it spent it's 9 years in Death Valley unprotected.

That is something to think about.

One more thing I have noticed with some older PCs, how the Diamond Shield clean film paint chip protection on leading edges by  changed color badly to a burnt brown color.

Our first motor home HERE had a seamless gel coat unpainted fiberglass body similar in construction to a Coach House.  We bought it brand new and owned it for 24 years.  The gel coat finish was loaded with imperfections from the beginning, surely not the quality finish of a typical automobile.  We garaged it for all but the first 5 years.  The last half of ownership, it was very difficult to maintain the finish.  That is why it was important for me to have the full body paint on our next motor home, our PC.

Our 9 year old PC is garaged when we are not using it, so our paint job still looks brand new, and the Diamond Shield would look brand new too if not for a certain type of bug juice that has stained it in tiny spots.  But I wonder what our PC would look like if we did not protect it so well at home.

Regarding the thermal pane glass.  We ordered our PC with that 2-pane glass and it is great, especially when considering we have the big emergency window, and big rear window right next to our bed.  Our first motor home, we felt the cold radiate right through the plexi-glass above us and flow right down on our heads.  Keep in-mind that we do not camp in the winter time, but rather summer camping in the mountains where the nights can get down in the 40's and lower.  Spring & fall are other travel times for us in recent years and of coarse the weather is more unpredictable with cold nights in many regions.

The thermal glass is also more quiet, something we appreciate a lot when staying overnight in Walmart parking lots and rest areas which can be noisy.
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TomHanlon

Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 10:01:47 am »
My 5 year old full paint PC still looks like new. It has never been indoors since leaving the factory and during oil changes at Jiffy Lube.

If the diamond shield has changed color to a light brown I can't tell because my full paint in those areas is light brown.

We had double pane windows in our Winnebago before getting the PC. Several of the windows were fogging up when we traded it in. So we did not get double pane in either of our two PCs. We find the white MCD shade will keep some, a lot of the cold out when pulled all the way down. I don't know if I would get double pane windows in our next motorhome, if there is a next motorhome. We don't do any winter camping after Thanksgiving.

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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2016, 11:36:57 am »
My 5 year old full paint PC still looks like new. It has never been indoors since leaving the factory and during oil changes at Jiffy Lube.

If the diamond shield has changed color to a light brown I can't tell because my full paint in those areas is light brown.

We had double pane windows in our Winnebago before getting the PC. Several of the windows were fogging up when we traded it in. So we did not get double pane in either of our two PCs. We find the white MCD shade will keep some, a lot of the cold out when pulled all the way down. I don't know if I would get double pane windows in our next motorhome, if there is a next motorhome. We don't do any winter camping after Thanksgiving.
Hi Tom,

It is good to hear that your paint job is holding up real well with your PC being outside all the time.

It is funny that you mention the color of the bug juice.  You are spot-on in that the specs of bug juice stains would easily blend into the tan & brown painted PCs.  That is an excellent reason to favor those colors.

About the fogging up of the thermal pane windows, it was on my mind for a long time, but it's been over 9 years now and so-far so-good.  Maybe the way we store our PC along with the softer suspension of our 2007 E350, helps to prevent it.

Ron
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 10:53:38 am »
We picked up our 2552 in May 2013. It has been outside ever since. It gets high humidity and over 100 degree summer days and nasty ice and snow and the occasional below freezing winter nights. We've camped across the country north to south and east to west so it's been in just about every climate area of the lower 48. We were full time for a year and a half with a good bit of camping the rest of the time. The full body paint looks new except a few spots we dinked. It is automotive paint and holds up as such. Our car is out there right with it, is the same age, and looks just as good.

The Diamond Shield on the Phoenix is just starting to show a touch of brown under some spots along the edges but John tends to be exuberant during vehicle washing so he may have loosened the edge. I don't see any areas affected by bugs. My guess is random brown spots in the main sheet of Diamond Shield would be due to tiny nicks from road debris that allow the water to penetrate and then eventually mold.

Our thermal windows have experienced all those temperature changes and have bounced down many uneven roads and we have no fogging so far.

We take moderate care of the RV and with a quick clean up it looks almost as good as the day we bought it. There are a few dinks inside and out that we put there but other than that, she has held up beautifully. My biggest challenge is rust and crud on the tow bar and jacks but we didn't clean those as much as we should have. This is the first year we've had to touch up the caulk on the roof and it took John less than an hour to strip it, clean it and recaulk one seam where the cap joins the roof. We didn't have leaks but our inspection showed some possible loose edges so we cleaned and caulked it. 
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Re: 2100 Pictures
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 05:09:29 pm »
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My biggest challenge is rust and crud on the tow bar and jacks but we didn't clean those as much as we should have.

Holly,
Our hitch was looking rusty no matter how much we cleaned it.  Summer of 2014 we painted it with "Chassis Saver" and then put a top coat of rustoleum on it.  Today it still looks brand new.  We don't want to do the jacks because of all the moving parts.

Here are the before and after pictures of the hitch:

 

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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2016, 10:09:15 am »
Awesome, we will give that a go. I've got the Rustoleum and some product that the Home Depot guy said works as a base coat on metal and converts the rust to something as part of the base coat. I think I'll go with tried and true and get the Chassis Saver instead. I'll still wire brush first to get loose crud off. Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2016, 11:25:06 am »
Holly,

If using the chassis saver just make sure to not get it on anything except for what you want to paint.  It is awesome stuff but adheres to anything including your skin. We do not use it on anything with moving parts because it bonds the metals together. It works like your Home Depot guy describes.
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