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Maserator system
« on: April 14, 2017, 03:20:25 pm »
Well it seems that I have to replace my maserator pump.  Would like to replace it with a quiet one as my present one is noisy and its leaking.  There are so many brands out there and it seems that Sani-con is the one PC uses.  Any suggestions, and if purchased online are they easy to install.  I would have my sons take care of that.  The last time my RV dealer installed one is was almost $300.00.  In the meantime, I am dumping with the 3" hose.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2017, 03:39:44 pm »
I replaced one a few years ago, with the same (bought from Carol at PC - was less than any other source) and it really wasn't too bad.  As I recall, the main problem was separating the pipes to make the connections, but with a little grunting & groaning the job was completed.
I didn;t try to replace with another brand.
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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2017, 05:22:37 pm »
Hi Freckles,
If you decide to try a brand other than Sanicon, you might want to talk to Phoenix first to make sure it will work with how they have things set up.  I bottomed out a while back and broke my macerator.  Have been using the manual dump system since.  I asked Phoenix about changing to the new macerator they are using (quieter and faster) but was told that it would be really hard to retrofit into the way they have things set up for the Sanicon system.  Would hate to see you buy something and then when someone tries to install it they run into trouble.
Good luck!
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P.S. I've gotten so used to the manual dump routine and have enjoyed not worrying about when/if the macerator might break that I think I might just leave things the way they are.  If it hadn't come as standard equipment, I wouldn't have gotten it in the first place.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 09:26:46 am »
Disconnecting and taking out the pump, takes me about 5 minutes.

If you break those tabs off, you can just buy that piece from Carol for about $35. You do need a vise to be able to hold the pump and unscrew the receiving end off. They give you all the seals you need.
No leaks after it was replaced.
I've broken those tabs 3 times in the past 11 years.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 02:12:58 pm »
To freckstweety and PC family,

I found a very affordable replacement to the Sanicon pump as described in detail HERE.
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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 08:40:41 pm »
To freckstweety and PC family,

I found a very affordable replacement to the Sanicon pump as described in detail HERE.
Thank you ever so much for the detailed reply.  I will double check with PC and see what they say as well and double check to see the what maserator is presently installed.   Just want to get the right one.   Thanks again.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2017, 12:37:51 pm »
I bought my replacement from PPL because it offered the lowest delivered price.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 07:42:10 am »
It has been a few years since I replaced our Sanicon macerator pump with a $58 Seaflo version so I thought I would do some quick shopping on Ebay to find out what is available today.  There is a good seletion starting at $45.00 which need the sewage entrance tube portion cut off, a simple 10 minute cut-&-vac process.  The last one for $99.99 is especially interesting.

All come with a mounting stand you unscrew and discard.  The screw holes then become weep holes, a perfect situation.

$45 opening bid, many up for auction, Surgeflo includes shipping ($51.44 Buy-It-Now)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12GPM-12V-Macerator-Pump-Self-priming-Waste-Water-Toilet-Marine-RV-Boat-Camper-/201890489311?hash=item2f019c63df:g:GwcAAOSwdzVXvUDF&vxp=mtr

$51.45 Singflo includes shipping
This one has a metal motor body end cap.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-12V-45LPM-12GPM-Macerator-Sanitation-Waste-Water-Pump-Toilet-RV-Marine-Boat-/282067764199?hash=item41ac8c83e7:g:Z6wAAOSwEzxYRmEN&vxp=mtr


$53.99 Aurelio Tech includes shipping
This one is labelled "Professional Grade"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Macerator-Water-Waste-Pump-45-LPM-12GPM-Toilet-RV-Trailer-Camper-Marine-Boat-/322155371527?hash=item4b01f4dc07:g:8zUAAOSwNuxXZC~t&vxp=mtr

$59.99 No Name brand includes shipping
This one appears to have a removable end cap to use a screwdriver to free up a jammed macerator.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-45-LPM-12GPM-Macerator-Water-Waste-Pump-Toilet-RV-Trailer-Camper-Marine-Boat-/381014796430?hash=item58b640688e:g:5ZYAAOSwls5Y7mAq&vxp=mtr

$82.95 Seaflo includes shipping
This is the one I bought a few years ago for $58 as mentioned in my macerator replacement project write-up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seaflo-Brand-Marine-and-RV-Macerator-Pump-12V-Model-SFMP1-120-01-/192067568477?hash=item2cb81e835d:g:ELQAAOSwVcFXOnoM&vxp=mtr


$99.99 Seaflo includes shipping (THIS MIGHT BE A WINNER)
This one is MOST interesting because it has the 4 prong connection for direct-connect to RV plumbing.  Just remove and discard the end piece.  I wonder if it mounts right up perfect onto a PC.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEAFLO-12V-RV-Discharge-Mount-Macerator-Waste-Pump-45-LPM-12GPM-Boat-RV-Marine-/161844749965?hash=item25aeb2e68d:g:g~YAAOSwoudW2QU9&vxp=mtr


There are some very affordable alternative replacements to the stock macerator pump, if you are willing to do a little extra work.  Just cut off the end of the pump so it matches your original one.  This assuming your original macerator is the same as my original as I had detailed HERE.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 10:42:08 am by ron.dittmer »
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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2017, 10:13:13 am »
It has been a few years since I replaced our Sanicon macerator pump with a $58 Seaflo version so I thought I would do some quick shopping on Ebay to find out what is available today.  There is a good seletion starting at $45.00 which need the sewage entrance tube portion cut off, a simple 10 minute cut-&-vac process.  The last one for $99.99 is especially interesting.

All come with a mounting stand you unscrew and discard.  The screw holes then become weep holes, a perfect situation.

$45 Surgeflo includes shipping
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12GPM-12V-Macerator-Pump-Self-priming-Waste-Water-Toilet-Marine-RV-Boat-Camper-/201890489311?hash=item2f019c63df:g:GwcAAOSwdzVXvUDF&vxp=mtr
Thank you ever so much for the research.  Very much appreciated. 
$51.45 Singflo includes shipping
This one has a metal motor body end cap.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-12V-45LPM-12GPM-Macerator-Sanitation-Waste-Water-Pump-Toilet-RV-Marine-Boat-/282067764199?hash=item41ac8c83e7:g:Z6wAAOSwEzxYRmEN&vxp=mtr


$53.99 Aurelio Tech includes shipping
This one is labelled "Professional Grade"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-Macerator-Water-Waste-Pump-45-LPM-12GPM-Toilet-RV-Trailer-Camper-Marine-Boat-/322155371527?hash=item4b01f4dc07:g:8zUAAOSwNuxXZC~t&vxp=mtr

$59.99 No Name brand includes shipping
This one appears to have a removable end cap to use a screwdriver to free up a jammed macerator.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-45-LPM-12GPM-Macerator-Water-Waste-Pump-Toilet-RV-Trailer-Camper-Marine-Boat-/381014796430?hash=item58b640688e:g:5ZYAAOSwls5Y7mAq&vxp=mtr

$82.95 Seaflo includes shipping
This is the one I bought a few years ago for $58 as mentioned in my macerator replacement project write-up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seaflo-Brand-Marine-and-RV-Macerator-Pump-12V-Model-SFMP1-120-01-/192067568477?hash=item2cb81e835d:g:ELQAAOSwVcFXOnoM&vxp=mtr


$99.99 Seaflo includes shipping (THIS MIGHT BE A WINNER)
This one is MOST interesting because it has the 4 prong connection for direct-connect to RV plumbing.  Just remove and discard the end piece.  I wonder if it mounts right up perfect onto a PC.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SEAFLO-12V-RV-Discharge-Mount-Macerator-Waste-Pump-45-LPM-12GPM-Boat-RV-Marine-/161844749965?hash=item25aeb2e68d:g:g~YAAOSwoudW2QU9&vxp=mtr


There are some very affordable alternative replacements to the stock macerator pump, if you are willing to do a little extra work.  Just cut off the end of the pump so it matches your original one.  This assuming your original macerator is the same as my original as I had detailed HERE.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 01:35:29 pm »
To freckstweety and PC family,

I found a very affordable replacement to the Sanicon pump as described in detail HERE.
Thank you ever so much for the detailed reply.  I will double check with PC and see what they say as well and double check to see the what maserator is presently installed.   Just want to get the right one.   Thanks again.
I checked my Flojet pump as I was de-winterizing the MH and when the pump was on, it leaked from under the pump and not at any of the fittings So I don't know where the problems is as it is coming from under the metal brace that holds the pump.   Where and what part is that?Does that mean the pump is bad?

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2017, 02:12:33 pm »
To freckstweety and PC family,

I found a very affordable replacement to the Sanicon pump as described in detail HERE.
Thank you ever so much for the detailed reply.  I will double check with PC and see what they say as well and double check to see the what macerator is presently installed.   Just want to get the right one.   Thanks again.
I checked my Flojet pump as I was de-winterizing the MH and when the pump was on, it leaked from under the pump and not at any of the fittings So I don't know where the problems is as it is coming from under the metal brace that holds the pump.   Where and what part is that?Does that mean the pump is bad?
The leak might originate at an attachment point of the pump to something else.  Maybe the pump assembly is fine and it is leaking somewhere near it, just finding it's way down to that drip point.

It might be that the 4 bolts that hold the pump assembly together have become loose and they simply need to be tightened.  When I bought my replacement pump, those 4 bolts were nearly loose to begin with so I could see how they would loosen up and start leaking.  I made them tighter during my new pump conversion process.

It is also possible the pump is leaking in a manner that requires replacement.  The question to ask yourself is whether the dripping warrants replacement.  My original pump dripped for a number of years before I replaced it.  It didn't drip much and it did stop dripping soon after dumping.  Since my original pump had a broken bolt which ended up jamming the pump, I do wonder if that bolt had broke long before which may have started the dripping in the first place.

My advise (for what it's worth) is that if it drips only during dumping and for a short while afterward, don't be troubled.  Just ignore it.  Now if it's a serious stream, that's different.  I would have it looked at, either tighten-up or replaced.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2017, 02:20:30 pm »
To freckstweety and PC family,

I found a very affordable replacement to the Sanicon pump as described in detail HERE.
Thank you ever so much for the detailed reply.  I will double check with PC and see what they say as well and double check to see the what macerator is presently installed.   Just want to get the right one.   Thanks again.
I checked my Flojet pump as I was de-winterizing the MH and when the pump was on, it leaked from under the pump and not at any of the fittings So I don't know where the problems is as it is coming from under the metal brace that holds the pump.   Where and what part is that?Does that mean the pump is bad?
It is very possible that the 4 bolts that hold the pump assembly together have become loose and they simply need to be tightened.  When I bought my replacement pump, those 4 bolts were nearly loose to begin with so I could see how they would loosen up and start leaking.  I made them tighter as part of my new pump conversion process.

It is also possible the pump is leaking in a manner that requires replacement.  The question to ask yourself is whether the dripping warrants replacement.  My original pump dripped for a number of years before I replaced it.  It didn't drip much and it did stop dripping soon after dumping.  Since my original pump had a broken bolt which ended up jamming the pump, I do wonder if that bolt had broke long before which may have started the dripping in the first place.

My advise (for what it's worth) is that if it drips only during dumping and for a short while afterward, don't be troubled.  Just ignore it.  Now if it's a serious stream, that's different.
Thank you  It only drips when in use so I think I will not replace it .   I do not put paper in the toilet and don't do my daily in it as well and use the campground's rest room so there is only liquid in the black tank.  Worst comes to worst I can dump the usual way. So thanks again.
I can collect the drippings and dump the down the sewer when the pump is done.   Happy Camping.

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Re: Maserator system
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2017, 02:24:23 pm »
To freckstweety and PC family,

I found a very affordable replacement to the Sanicon pump as described in detail HERE.
Thank you ever so much for the detailed reply.  I will double check with PC and see what they say as well and double check to see the what macerator is presently installed.   Just want to get the right one.   Thanks again.
I checked my Flojet pump as I was de-winterizing the MH and when the pump was on, it leaked from under the pump and not at any of the fittings So I don't know where the problems is as it is coming from under the metal brace that holds the pump.   Where and what part is that?Does that mean the pump is bad?
It is very possible that the 4 bolts that hold the pump assembly together have become loose and they simply need to be tightened.  When I bought my replacement pump, those 4 bolts were nearly loose to begin with so I could see how they would loosen up and start leaking.  I made them tighter as part of my new pump conversion process.

It is also possible the pump is leaking in a manner that requires replacement.  The question to ask yourself is whether the dripping warrants replacement.  My original pump dripped for a number of years before I replaced it.  It didn't drip much and it did stop dripping soon after dumping.  Since my original pump had a broken bolt which ended up jamming the pump, I do wonder if that bolt had broke long before which may have started the dripping in the first place.

My advise (for what it's worth) is that if it drips only during dumping and for a short while afterward, don't be troubled.  Just ignore it.  Now if it's a serious stream, that's different.
Thank you  It only drips when in use so I think I will not replace it .   I do not put paper in the toilet and don't do my daily in it as well and use the campground's rest room so there is only liquid in the black tank.  Worst comes to worst I can dump the usual way. So thanks again.
I can collect the drippings and dump the down the sewer when the pump is done.   Happy Camping.
You are nearly like us.  My wife does put toilet paper down the toilet, but we never have done #2.  So our macerator macerates just toilet paper.  You are better than us, and I think you have the right idea.....just keep using it as is.  If it gets a lot worse, have someone look into what's going on down there.

One other thing to wonder about are the discussions others here have about the flexible hose leaking right there by the pump.  Maybe a light spray is hitting the pump, making it appear the pump itself is leaking.

If you lived near by, I'd suggest you bring your PC over and I'd have a look-see.
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