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2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 09:41:38 am »
Hi Doug,

I have a Dometic 14 foot, model number 979BY13.065.  It is called a box awning.  Phoenix is very familiar with them.  My model, the roll up material is gray colored and also painted with my full body paint.  The two arms connect to the lower part of the rig via mounting clips, and also can be used as poles with ropes and stakes.  You can open the awning unsupported a lot, but the sag is limited to the entry door clearence, and that is about as shown in that one pic which is a little more than a foot.  Because of the entry door, the awning cannot be angled much, except the rear end brought down to for rain water runoff as needed.  The crank and the center support are stored with clips in the entry door jamb.  The main arms self store inside the awning, accessed when opening the awning 6 feet and sagging a lot.

Ron
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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2017, 10:47:01 am »
I have had a PC with the box awning and a PC with the new electric awning.
There is no comparison, the new awning is way better in every respect.
If the new awning is longer than you want, there ought to be a way for a shorter awning to be installed.
I hated the old box awning, by the way it is manufactured by same company but sold under a different name.

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2017, 12:15:50 pm »
I have had a PC with the box awning and a PC with the new electric awning.
There is no comparison, the new awning is way better in every respect.
If the new awning is longer than you want, there ought to be a way for a shorter awning to be installed.
I hated the old box awning, by the way it is manufactured by same company but sold under a different name.

I agree with Keelhauler.  Our previous camping trailer had the box type awning and because of concern with wind and storing in the event of unexpected gust we seldom used it.  The newer PC awnings are so much easier to deploy and stow we use it frequently.  We typically stow it at night or if we are gone for an extended period we retract it to reduce the chance of wind damage. 

On one occasion in our previous camper I left the box awning out one night and was awakened to an approaching thunder storm.  Not much fun hand cranking to retract the awning and folding the legs while being pelted with wind and rain in the dark hence our reluctance to leave it out at night.  Seen too many awnings folded over the top of a camper.

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2017, 09:34:37 pm »
Ron D.,

Thanks for that information, I do appreciate it. The angle of the dangle will interfere with the door, I'm sure that is the limiting factor.

Others,

We have opted to do some custom after market adds to our 2350, one is an exterior outside cooking station / storage box that will swing from the rear of the motorhome around to the side to form a usable outside BBQ,storage/ cook area. I can't imagine any kind of an awning with support arms working very well. I don't know much about electric armless awnings, but imagine they are more fragile than the old school box style. If anyone has experience with tying off( to the ground, etc.) an armless unit with the wind sensor, I would like to hear your experience.
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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 07:38:23 am »
Doug, your swing around outdoor kitchen sounds interesting, could you post some pics of the mod.  Thanks

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2017, 09:39:34 am »
Swiftboot,
I wish I could send a picture. We are still a few months out on delivery of the 2350. I'm waiting until we can take actual measurements, and weights. I have not found any over the counter unit yet, so am planning on building something.
If you can use a little imagination, check out this product video,  https://www.wilcooffroad.com/shop/hitchgate-solo/ and replace the tire with a drop down door box from this company  https://www.aluminess.com/accessories/boxes/.
We will see how it goes.

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2017, 01:33:32 pm »
One thing certain, you can't beat the convenience of a motorized awning.
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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2017, 04:01:49 pm »
So these arms interfere with your proposed kitchen?

This is a really nice awning and automatically dumps the water. I would not get the wind sensor. Just tie it down or close it.

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2017, 06:19:01 pm »
Keelhauler,
Were you ever an awning salesman? If not, you missed your calling! You made me rethink a few things, and it might be a moot point anyway since we did not order an awning, and it might be too late. I can see a shorter box than planned,  make it a little wider, and change up the door/ shelf some. I have certainly never objected to motorized, I'm not particularly fond of how they look, but we have created an UGLY duck already. 
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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2017, 08:06:40 pm »
It's not too late. The awning is about the last thing they install.

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2017, 04:05:52 pm »
The reason the power awning needs a "shove" once in a while is that it is not mounted high enough. Phoenix is well aware of the problem. Phoenix builds a "low profile" unit (10'6" high) making the side wall shorter than most which disallows mounting the awning a few inches higher as it should. But as some of know, it fits in garages and barns. A disclaimer that's my story and i'm sticking to it. (exactly)

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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2017, 07:36:51 am »
It's not too late. The awning is about the last thing they install.

That's true...our PC, "Fawkes" was built in 2012 and he got his awning this year!  ;)
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Re: 2017 2910T - Awning Problem/Question
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2017, 09:09:49 am »
I have the new Carefree lateral arm powered awning on my Renegade.  Looks very, very sleek and nice, works like a charm, has auto wind, rain and in and out settings, and has a remote control fob.  The issue I have is even on the heaviest setting (wind sensitivity) the wind sensor will send the awning in with what I would consider a light breeze, at the beach forget it it just does not like to stay out!  The unit is so high you can not tie it down because of course there are no typical arms coming down to the coach or the ground.  I liked my PC power unit and the fact you could tie it down some because you could reach the corners when extended. Nothing is perfect I guess and at the end of the day the numbers of times one actually uses the awning I am not sure they are really worth the $$$$'s.  Thanks, Ron
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