I have to support Jack in the thought the corner bed is questionable. We had a 2350 and could not sleep together in it (I'm not overly large but am a 6 foot, 210 pound guy who requires a lot of sleeping room). Peg couldn't sleep on the fold-out sofa comfortably either. Consequently, we went to a twin bed 2551/2552.If PC had a 24-25 foot model with a walkaround double bed in the rear, that would definitely have been a very big consideration in our decision.
Keep in-mind the 2350 dimensions I am providing are from my 2007 model year.DinetteBed dimensions: 71W x 36D (71W is with cushions removed, finished board to finished board)Table dimensions: 29W x 34DLeg room: 29.5WOverall dimension of dinette: 73.5W x 37DI am 5'-11" so it was a surprise to me to see the width matched my height. The few times I slept on the dinette when sick, I guess I never slept like a soldier laying at attention. It seemed to be plenty wide for me.ShowerJust above the shower pan: 34W x 23DMax to skylight dome: 73HKeep in mind, the shower narrows as it gets higher due to the curved exterior wall. The roof is crowned, so the shower ceiling is vaulted. Looking at my shower, if PC-USA installed the plumbing on the opposite "outside" wall, there would be much more room to take a shower. But that would put the plumbing in a sealed vacu-bonded wall, not a hollow interior wall. If I were to order a new PC just for me, I would still inquire about doing that, and discuss any repercusions of it. You might end up with a raised wall panel/channel for the two pipes to pass through. I can see why they did it the way it is, given the plumbing is done before the exterior walls are installed. But it would have been nice.
Sherman --- Welcome to the "RV Purchase club", and difficulties associated with same!!! As I've said, I've had 3 --2 in the last 2 years, and hopefully this is it!!!The barrel chair in the my 2350 (2006) was bolted down with a seat belt. The new "euro chairs" options (which are great) are on a ring which is secured to the floor with a clamp, and immovable when underway. The idea of a table with the chair is a good one -- and not to confuse you further, that's why we went to the 2400 - 2 euro chairs, with a "cocktail" or work table between - is great for happy hour!I too, researched the bed situation in other RVs, and, while somewhat appealing, the fit & finish in them turned me off. (Sounding like a broken record!) With all 3 RVs the bed has been an issue - I mentioned the corner bed pproblems in the 2350, and with your size, I would be surprised if you and DW would be comfortable - like Bob (rmmpe). With the twin beds, I kept hitting the wall/window, and Linda found the shorter bed a little short, and on a "boys" camping trip a friend (6'5", pushing 300 or so) fell out of the twin! Now, PC has come up with a new style of beds for the Fords, (you can see in the brochure, or Ron's photos) but can't be installed in the Sprinter. So, we got the air mattress --- what an experience!!! There have been many threads on these things, but the short story is they are just uncomfortable. (I'm being kind!!) so now we're going back to the older style, electric sofa bed, and using memory foam to get as much comfort as we can. You're right, each style/size RV has some drawback -- however, I'm hoping this new arrangement is better than a tent! (As far as I'm concerned, the tent is more comfortable than the airmattress!)Anyway, good luck in finding what you want -- as you know, I'm pretty damn close!!!Best,Jack
Sherman,How far are you from the town of Mendon, MA? I ask because there is a former Phoenix USA dealer there that has a 2007 2350 and a 2008 2400 that you could size up. I think both have slideouts. Both were never titled and may still carry some sort of new warranties. They might be considered demonstrators. Click Here To Get To His Website. Then Click On Inventory We special ordered our 2350 from him in 2007. Don Keller the one and only owner/employee is a great guy to talk with. He might be over 80 years old and has strong morals, very good ethics. He might give you a great deal on one of his 2 PCs. I would not look at his advertised prices. Just pay a visit and see if either fit you two perfectly. If you are seriously interested, then try and work a deal with Don. If you can't agree on a price, then you at least are better educated with PCs in general, and very much educated on those two specific models.Your visit there could help you in making a decision on what to order direct from the factory, or maybe even drop the PC line altogether.
HI Sherman...Ron's suggestion is a good one -- you might not take the sprinter afterall. And, it'll give you a chance to compare both models.You have the order correct on the sofa beds - I have no idea why they switched, but I would imagine the air mattress was supposed to be more comfortable than the electric. The new style beds won't work in the sprinter, I am told, because the sprinter height is greater and when the new bed is extended it doesn't rest on the floor. I'm hopefully optimistic about this new modification -- we'll see. and, you are right, it's a shame to have to modify something on a new rig, but the air mattress is awful...both to lie on and open/close. I'm outta here --- all the best, Jack
Sherman, I emailed you a TON of data, what I have on some previous PC model years, and Chassis years as well.51MB in all. I hope your email server can handle it. Let me know if you get 7 emails from me. The first email of the 2007 PC brochure by itself can be deleted. I later saw I had all 6 sheets in one PDF file so I resent it along with the 2011 brochure.Oh boy, the 2009 Brochure just bouced back because it is 16.4MB, more than I am allowed to send from here. Compressed, it is still too big. Sorry about that.So you should get 5 good emails with 44MB of chassis and PC data.